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    A question on the i7 6700HQ

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by yotano21, Sep 5, 2016.

  1. yotano21

    yotano21 Notebook Evangelist

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    Is it true at this model processor is only goes upto 3.1ghz on all 4 cores even when undervolted with XTU.

    I am asking because I am thinking of picking up a new laptop with a 6700hq and 1060. My current laptop has a 4710qm at runs at 3.4 on all 4 cores 24/7. I help with video editing for a family member when ever he needs extra processor muscle.
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It's probably on par or slightly slower. But will use less power than a 4710MQ.
     
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    @yotano21 Max multi is 31x so at bclk 100MHz 3.1GHz. IIRC your 4710MQ should be able to do 35x on 4 cores or 37x with ucode 7 or more with ucode of 2 or less depending on power delivery, cooling and silicon lottery.

    Examples.
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    @yotano21 6700Hq is probably the worst Intel mobile i7 in history. Fully locked down!! Even the previous Haswell low end i7 BGA could be clocked up 2 bin :D
     
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    If the 1060 (GPU, I assume?) is better suited to the software you use for video editing than what you have now, then the i7 6700HQ based platform with it won't be a backward step from your current setup.

    See:
    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2243&cmp[]=2586


    A little slower on single thread performance and a little faster on multi threaded performance (~3% slower ST and ~2% faster MT).

    The clock speed a processor runs at (between different platform generations) has never been a good indicator of the performance you can achieve in any real world usage. ;)

    With the latest platform/gen being almost always the better choice when all things are considered.

    If the newer GPU won't impact the usage scenario favorably over the current setup you have now? I wouldn't do this upgrade, myself.

     
  6. JKnows

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    The i7-6700HQ should be just little faster, while consuming half the power (if undervolted) than 4710qm. So basically 6700HQ is much better. I just run for you a 3DMark 11 test, where with my newest DDR3 2133 modules I get arround 9300 Physics score and in Chinabench R15; 685 points. What are your scores with i7-4710qm?

    Note if you buy a new laptop with I7-6700HQ + Pascal GPU, you will have an awesome efficient laptop, running lower heat and noise as your current. Plus some Skylake laptop also supports DDR4 modules, so you could put near DDR4-3000MHz modules and you would definietly get more than 9500 Physics score.
     
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    Max 9-10% IPC increase over Haswell clockspeed for clockspeed isn't much. And the performance gain will be even lower if you use low end DDR 4 ram. And the nail in the coffin... If you can max your extra turbo bins with your 4710Mq... Will the performance gain be modest with that low end 6700Hq!! This mean almost none performance gain over 4710Mq in your real world workflow!!
     
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    10% increase IPC isn't much, I agree. But in late 2016? It's huge. And why would you use low end DDR4 RAM on a high(er) end system anyway?

    See:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...hp-envy-spectre-14-3100.795734/#post-10335975


    A lot of 'ifs' there... and, you're forgetting the most significant point: a new GPU that may be greatly beneficial to the intended workflow(s) on the new platform.

    Yeah, by itself, the 6700HQ is as 'low end' as I'd want to go for pure CPU muscle. But ignoring the platform differences as a whole is being a little short sighted, imo.
     
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    Yeah, Pascal is a significant point. But almost all OEM use low end DDR4 Memory. Just for better cpu muscles is 6700Hq and high latency memory chips a sidestep back!! If you have to upgrade to i7 BGA... Only a Hk chips make a sense. Not the low end 6700Hq. And the price for Hk vs Hq isn't big.
     
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    Well FWIW with the older 4700MQ 10840 for 3dm11 performance physics, 896 for R15 and 10500 for CPU Mark.
     
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    Ohh, I see, you have some very nice clocks above there. Question is just if OP also prefer overclocking or just enjoying the base frequencies?
     
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    The main laptop I have now is a Clevo p370sm3 with a 4710qm and 970m sli, 16gb of ram, and 5tb of storage.

    I am only looking for something that is lighter and that draws much less power. This laptop when playing games draws a little over 220 watts, 290w at full load. I am looking at a Clevo P670RP6 with the Nvidia 1060, which is good enough for 1080 resolution and I dont want to send more than $1000-$1200.

    My other problem is that I cant upgrade the drivers for this laptop. I have tried to modify the INF file and it wont install. I have tried everything I can, the drivers installed now are 353.82 which are the stock drivers.
     
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    @Phoenix, @Mr. Fox or @j95 help this guy plz!!
     
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    Dont bother, I have done everything possible for the drivers.
     
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    6700HQ paired with a 970m chews out the BF1 beta on Ultra... so I'm happy with that
     
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    I have a sli laptop, the reason for the high power draw. I usually run Bionc in the back ground.