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    A10 5750M vs i7 4700MQ, which is better for gaming?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by bchreng, Sep 15, 2013.

  1. bchreng

    bchreng Notebook Evangelist

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    All other things being equal (8GB dual channel memory with 2 DIMMs, same type of HDD), which would provide better overall gaming performance at 1366x768 resolution? The AMD A10 5750M with the 8650G integrated graphics or an Intel i7 4700MQ with HD 4600 integrated graphics? I hear AMD's integrated graphics are pretty strong, but the CPU itself is slow which is a bit of a let-down when it comes to CPU-intensive games. I also heard that Intel's new HD 4600 integrated graphics isn't too bad when it comes to gaming. Does one solution produce significantly more heat than the other?

    The type of games I play are all over the place, from Minesweeper, to Civ 5 to Serious Sam HD to Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3.
     
  2. octiceps

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    The 8650G and HD 4600 are pretty similar in performance, but I'd have to give the slight edge to the 8650G:

    AnandTech Portal | AMD's Richland vs. Intel's Haswell GPU on the Desktop: Radeon HD 8670D vs. Intel HD 4600

    AnandTech Portal | AMD's A10-5750M Review, Part 1: The APU and Radeon HD 8650G Performance

    The HD 4600 slots in between the 7660G and the 8650G, but in all fairness all three are pretty similar in performance.

    However, the CPU portion of the i7-4700MQ is much faster than the A10-5750M. Since you mentioned SC2 and Civ 5, which are CPU-intensive games, the Intel definitely has the edge there. All in all, I would have to go with the Intel combination.
     
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  3. Jobine

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    Intel Wins if you're using a dGPU. And Intel uses lower power too, and is "kinda" unlocked.

    AMD has a better iGPU however.
     
  4. bchreng

    bchreng Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for the info guys! I'll probably go for Intel since the iGPUs seem to be more or less the same.
     
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    I think the bigger issue here is that you're gaming at 768p :/.
     
  6. baii

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    Well, there is one thing that you cant make equal, the price ~~.
     
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    Depends on how much you'd be willing to spend.

    Generally its like this

    Intel: costlier, faster CPU, more efficient
    AMD: costs less, slower CPU, less efficient

    If you have the cash, go with the Intel for the type of games you plan on playing. If not get the AMD. Also depends on how much your value time.

    Sent from my XT557 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    There is also image quality and driver support to consider, and AMD graphics are way better than intel in those. Sure you might run things at at the same settings on 2 different platforms but that doesn't mean image quality will be the same. As for the CPU it depends if you want to do any serious work on your system. When it comes to gaming on a systems with integrated graphics, the GPU is usually the bottleneck.

    Also I am not sure if a 4700QM is more efficient than a 5750M. Maybe when it is sitting idle or in sleep state, but under load the extra 10W TDP of the 4700QM will drain more battery and make more heat. What many people don't realize is that Richland is a very efficient APU. It was more efficient than a 35W Ivy Bridge in almost every test other than gaming on the iGPU. Now Haswell is much more power efficient than Ivy bridge but most of that comes from idle power consumption and don't forget that its a 45W CPU.
     
  9. baii

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    I don't think there is "image quality" difference, unless you are talking about video encoding.
     
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    In terms of pure power consumption, the APU wins, but in terms of performance/Watt, which is what most people define efficiency as, Intel blows it out of the water. AMD's architecture is inherently inefficient because it need more cores and clock speed to keep up with Intel, plus it is several generations behind in terms of process node. Thus higher power consumption at the same performance level, or lower performance at the same power consumption.

    I think he's referring to all the graphics options in Catalyst Control Center that, as far as I'm aware, are not available for Intel iGPU's. Also, AMD "discrete-level" onboard graphics do have better image quality than Intel onboard graphics. Intel graphics have historically suffered from visual artifacts, glitching, and flickering in many titles but this has improved considerably in recent iterations. It's gotten better as Intel driver support for their iGPU's has improved but you can't expect its software compatibility and driver/hardware efficiency to be on the same level as an AMD or Nvidia.
     
  11. Jobine

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    Gaming at 768p on 14 inch notebooks or lower is perfectly acceptable and will give a significant improvement in FPS over HD+ or FHD. On top of that, nothing lower than a GT 740M is recommended for 1080p gaming.