AMD Quad Core Notebooks showing up?

No problems, and I'm on a Pentium T4300. CPU usage doesn't even reach 50% according to the task manager...

 

Played it at 1080p. Eats up around 30% only of the CPU.

Using Turion II M520 and Mobility Radeon 4200.

 

Around 50% usage on my notebook (Specs in signature)
Also it should not be any problem at all with newer notebooks now that we have Flash 10.1 with hardware acceleration.

 

So does that mean he proved me wrong or not?

 

I think you are correct about the average joe only needs a decent dual core cpu.

 

The average joe indeed doesn't require something very powerful ... however, as our technology advances and daily needs differ, the 'average joe' demands will go upwards.

I suppose it's a good thing, but I just wish we had that 30GhZ Graphene cpu available so I can significantly decrease render times in 3dsMax among other things.

 

Well I never said the time wouldn't come when the "average Joe" with his/her "average computing" needs won't go up, but the line is a lot steadier than the slope at which hardware advances if we look at trends.

Currently I'd estimate that the most hardware demanding thing the average consumer will do is maybe watch HD videos on the laptop and most dual cores can handle that fine. I see lots of people mentioning "video editing" but tbh I doubt it's extreme enough to warrant that much more power than what's readily available to the general mass public.

 

Usually newer notebooks contain IGP or GPU that supports DXVA, so that helps when playing HD video on a budget dual core CPU.

 

15% on my T9400...

 

My friend that is heavy into photoshop and 3d rendering swears by the amd quad core 930. He claims that it blazes through everything without a sweat.

 

... i don't know what to say except for AMD fanboy

 

Ha, I could care less. Just threw it out there. Personally, I think its the 17 inch screen. lol

 

In 3d rendering the N930 + the ATI4250 that it is paired with would definitely beat an i5 + Intel HD but still fall short of the quad cores from Intel

 

so guys

after much reading, im interested in buying an AMD powered laptop

so which is currently the best gaming AMD laptop on the market?

thanks!

 

Probably the Acer Aspire 7552G with Phenom II X920 BE and Mobility HD5830+. (GDDR3 version of the HD5850).

 

that looks beast! but it's 17inch

im looking for a 15 incher

i heard and found out about HP Pavilion Dv6z with specs like

AMD Phenom(TM) II Quad-Core Mobile Processor N930 (2.0GHz, 2MB L2 Cache) and the ATi 5650. it looks like a decent gaming rig

for roughly 1,073.99 ( with some upgrades, and which is going to be more if i pre order it from where i am )

i think this is a good deal for a $1000 laptop

but is AMD going to release a new Processor soon? or is this Phenom N930 is the latest from AMD?

because AFAIK, AMD doesn't update their processor as fast as what Intel does, is it true?

and what is the AMD Vision Black is all about? does the N930 have this Vision Black thing?

 

You just said best for gaming. If you had other requirements you should have said so first. ;þ

For mainstream notebooks AMD Llano Fusion APU will launch in the first half of 2011.

Vision Black is the vague branding for AMD's Enthusiast category.

Black Edition CPUs are like Intel Extreme CPUs and come with an unlocked multiplier for overclocking.

 

hrm, tough choice, though choice...

i dont know to either wait for the new Processor or just go with the Phenom N930 on HP dv6z-SE, cause they are still like around 8 months away

any suggest? how superior is the AMD Llano Fusion APU is going to be, anyone knows yet?

 

Mine came with the Vision Ultimate sticker, but I think if it wasn't paired with a HD 5650, it would have been a Vision Premium.

The only Phenoms I know of that would have Vision Black are the quad core X920 and the dual core X620. I have my doubts about those ever being released though.

 

i kinda wanna wait for the Fusion update, as it will have an DX11 integrated GPU and supports USB 3.0 and DDR3

but i wonder if the price is going to go up by much,

how have the price gone up from each gen to each gen from AMD been?

do they raise by alot?

 

Not necessarily ... Photoshop and 3d rendering programs are heavy on multi-threading, so it's not really out of the ordinary a quad core AMD on 2GHz would handle them fine.

 

Twe Foju , considering the price may i suggest u just get a Asus G73 which comes intel processor... quad i7 which is much better... the best buy version is $1200 and is much better than the hp...

 

hm thanks but no thanks, i just want to own an AMD laptop because it's rare to see people with an AMD laptop nowadays, just feels nice for me to own an AMD that few does

plus, i have always admire ATi Graphic Cards, and is part of AMD

also im getting sick of seeing the Intel Logo on my Laptop as it is getting so common

so there's my non technical reason

well, for me, the HP Dv6z is a good rig anyway, it's just that i dont know where to get the custom other than in US

i have the budget, just dont know how to get this Dv6z into Indonesia.. arghh

 

Look/ask around in the dv6t Owner's Lounge. I recall some folks mentioning a delivery service for people in your situation where you send your order to the service and they'll relay it to you.

 

yeah ill do that, still finding local HP store that would do all the work to ship this for me,

after much reading about the Fusion, i really would want to hold off buying HP dv6z

any of you know if HP would use them straight away when it's released? or maybe Toshiba

because so far, i have only seen Acer and HP using AMD ( and Toshiba )

 

The issue is not that intel have more research material than AMD. The issue is that Intel is like 10 times bigger/richer than AMD. Besides they don't always play by the rules.

 

Very true.
Although, there is a reasonably good probability that AMD can and will catch up to Intel once it gains more recognition in the mobile market.
It's latest series of cpus are more or less on par with Intel's offerings while lagging behind a bit.

It will also be interesting to see how the latest AMD cpu's will fare once they are released.

 

i think Intel will continue to Dominate

it;'s just a matter of people's choice

like me for example, i used to only use Intel, but tired of it now, well there's technical reason and non technical reason for it

lagging a bit behind Intel? well sure, but if it's barely noticeable, it's all for nothing, because in Review for Gaming, AMD score just the same as the i5s

but i am kind of in the AMD side now

and i hope that the Fusion can bring some fresh air in the market choice

 

I have to look at more than just gaming because I use Photoshop and 3dStudio Max (plus I'm on the move).

If AMD's next line of cpu's will deliver higher performance benefits in these tasks or be on par with Intel, then I don't see a reason why I won't get AMD (especially because it's cheaper)... however, I will also have to look at thermal efficiency, heat output, architecture, etc.

Performance in games is the least of my concern because in standard tasks and games, Intel doesn't really have a large edge over AMD.

Intel may continue to dominate in the future, but how much will it be in terms of choice/preference vs price/performance ratio?

Even when AMD held an edge over the Intel in the desktop department for some time, people were still predominantly using Intel's cpu's, but that didn't stop AMD from beating Intel as far as performance and price went.

 

u do get a ATI 5870 in the G73 , which is the best mobile GPU..

 

maybe ill consider it, but really, with the Dv6z select edition i could own the laptop for less than $1000 ($933 to be exact )after upgrades

plus im not sure i need those power as i only play WoW as my main game for now ( and probably Guild Wars 2 in 2011 )

so this is way more than powerful enough to run those game ( have PS3 to play everything else )

oh just off topic, what is the difference between the normal dv6z and the select edition? as i can get all the same configuration but the normal edition gets more expensive and plus the select gives you free Blueray DVD upgrade which is a huge plus

 

I was waiting for DV6 in Australia but sadly not showing up any time soon. The HP AU sales people are clueless when inquired about this model, they claimed they don't have any AMD notebooks even though HP - Australia | Laptop Computers, Desktops , Printers, Servers and more showcases some of them.. this led to me buy this Acer Aspire 5551 G.

I was bit hesitant to buy this initially but I can't use my dell xps since it's overheating and almost unusable, so I bought this.

It's been more than 10 days since I've started using this laptop. This comes with broadcom network adaptors and had to put bit of effort to get them working on Linux. Now everything works like a charm on Fedora 13.

I've been running processor intensive operations from day #1 and I'm fully satisfied with it. This includes, multi tasking utilizing all its cores, such as compiling the kernel, while debugging JBoss application server using Eclipse while running couple of more additional services. This has been an awesome processor up to date.

The processor temperature went up to 65 C and it was acceptable but didn't heat the machine like what happens with my Core 2 Duo T 7500 processor. This was very cool and the cup fan wasn't running wild.. so it's very smooth.

I used Ufraw to convert my raw images and performed a bulk conversion while ripping some music using Grip and it was very very smooth and I'm quite happy with this machine.

I truly didn't want to pay $$$ for an Intel i7 processor to get the same work done just a few milliseconds faster for I never had a good ride with what I do on Intel processors.

So I thought of giving this AMD Quad Core a go and it paid well

I can't comment on the gaming part for I haven't done much gaming on this and this is going to be more a 'developer' laptop.

 

@tw.techlist:

Excellent inputs. To harness the power of AMD Quadcore in App Development, use Virtualization Apps like VMWare or VirtualBox.

 

would love to hear some though

but yeah, i agree with you, the AMD quad cores are more suitable for devs, animation industries, Render artist, and the likes rather than for hardcore gaming ( although it can too )

as for me, i will be gaming with my HP for 40% of the time and probably 60% for my animation works when im not home or at the studio

 

@Twe Foju
To be honest with you, removing windoez and installing Linux was the first thing I did with this laptop. (For windoez is an immature unstable OS,as far as my requirements are concerned) So I didn't get a chance to install any games and try them out. :-(

Like you've said, N 930 should perform well with most of the games, given you have a good graphics card

 

Windows 7 (Clean install) aint that bad. xD
What distro do you use btw?
My favourite is Linux Mint because its easy to use aka newb friendly. haha

 

I'm running Fedora for now and moving on to Gentoo pretty soon. since all my systems are on Gentoo.

I might consider windoez when it becomes free and open source, so i know what i'm running in my machine and that let's me install what I want , having more control over the bits

Mint is a good distro. But I'd like to have more control over my system. Why would someone wants to install the bits that you don't know and you don't want to ? So I love Gentoo's way.

The memory consumption when running X server with postgreasql, firewall and ssh consumes just around 120MB of ram. So I have ample amount of RAM for my applications to run on. Where as windoez eats up ~ 1 GB.. sounds silly

 

What worries me is that the open source ATI drivers for the newer hardware dont work all that well yet, and ATI closed source drivers usually only work with the latest Ubuntu release only.

But my ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 works great with my Mint.

 

i was wondering about these CPUs... would they be good to run programs like excel, powerpoint and sas with lots of data (in the order of thousands...) or would they slow down too much?
I'm especially interested in:

Athlon II P320 (used a lot in cheaper laptops especially by HP)
Phenom II P820

I'm still in doubt whether to buy a more expensive laptop with a good CPU/GPU or to go for a cheaper laptop just to get the job done and save (and maybe buy a good desktop/laptop later on). If I go by the second case the AMD processors look much cheaper but i'm in doubt about their perfomance, as I have been told in store that the P320 is not very good.

 

I would go for P820. More cores = More tasks.

If you can find N830 the better. It should be comparable to Core i3