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    AMD Turion 64bit vs Intel Pentium-M

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by lir, Feb 18, 2006.

  1. lir

    lir Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've seen some nice models of HP but they are equipped with
    the AMD Turion processor (at nice speeds like 1.7ghz-2ghz)
    but I'm not familiar withi this processor...

    Is the Turion gets heated more?
    Does it eat more battery? is it significant?
    Will I get the same processing power as with the intel pentium-m?

    Basically, the bottom line is if I see a laptop I'm happy with except the processor is the AMD Turion should I not go with it
    or should it not matter *too much*?


    thanks.
     
  2. Jason

    Jason Overclocker NBR Reviewer

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    Both the Turion and the Intel PM's are great CPUS. The Turion does typically heat up more and usually doesn't get as good of battery life as the PM's. Both CPU's have battery saving features, but the PM will get better battery life. It usually doesn't get too much better battery life.... just a guess maybe 10% different in battery life. As far as the power goes both the PM and the Turion are extremely efficient CPU's. The Turion has 64 bit capabilities that will be good for the future with os's such as Vista, where the PM's just run at 32 bit. Both CPU's have there advantages though.

    If your looking at notebooks, I suggest that you fill out the FAQ so we can assist you on finding a notebook for your needs :)
     
  3. lir

    lir Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm just wondering about the following situation:
    if i find a laptop deal that has everything i want regarding ram, hd, video card etc... if the processor in the deal would be an amd turion should i not go for that deal? i mean cause of battery life and the heat problems?

    thanks.
     
  4. Clavius

    Clavius Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've just ordered this little beast ;) : http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=17907&page=1 (great review; the follow up is extremly usefull)

    I don't know about the temp but the batt life looks good (they'll get better once the MT Turions appear)

    If you find a laptop that has everything regarding ram, hd, video card etc., I'd say 'Go for it' (chances are that it will be cheaper than the P-M)
     
  5. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The battery and heat problems are not as pronounced as many people make it out to be. The Turion's are very similar in performance to the Pentium M and the heat issue is pretty much overblown, from what I have seen both the PM and the Turion run basically around the same average temperature. It is true whn you are using the cpu at full power, the Turion will heat up a little bit more than the PM. Also the heat depends on the cooling system provided by the manufacturer.

    As for the battery life the Turion depends on the use of the laptop. For example if a P-M based laptop with similar specs gives an average of 3hrs the Turion based system will manage around average 2.5hrs.

    Read this review for a clearer picture...
    http://www.laptoplogic.com/resources/detail.php?id=17
     
  6. lir

    lir Notebook Enthusiast

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    your asbolutely right.
    i could find an hp model that has what i want and it's a turion - i didnt know if to go for it or not because of heat and battery problems...

    i was looking at this one: HP Pavilion dv5061 or HP Pavilion dv5084EA
     
  7. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Take a look at the review posted yesterday of the dv5000z.Although the model being reviewd is a low end version, it should give you a good idea on the build quality and the average battery life and heat...
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=41148
     
  8. Computer_Junky

    Computer_Junky Notebook Enthusiast

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    I wouldnt suggest the Turion. I would go with a semphron or a 64-bit if it isnt already. The turion will eat your battery at a faster pace and wont give u as good of a performance as the athlon or semphrone.
     
  9. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Please, do resist from making incorrect statements.

    The Turion is 64bit.
    The Turion is better that the Sempron.
    Clock for clock the Turion is more or less equivalent to a Athlon64.
    The Turion is the mobile version of the Athlon64. It will give you twice as much battery life as an Athlon64.
     
  10. bmwrob

    bmwrob Notebook Virtuoso

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    Isn't the Sempron a budget CPU, equivalent - more or less - to Intel's Celeron?
     
  11. Jesusfrk611

    Jesusfrk611 Notebook Consultant

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    I think, more or less
     
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    spud8 Notebook Consultant

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    I have come to realize that through all that benchmarks and comparisons I have seen, Turion vs Pentium M is pretty much the same as Superman vs Batman... whoever is better will never be resolved. You should definately concentrate more on the memory, hard drive speed, video card, features you want, and price.
     
  13. lir

    lir Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well if the Turion is more battery consuming and heat propogating then
    that's a bad thing though :)
     
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    Lappy2go Notebook Enthusiast

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    thats a misconception that started long ago. everyone thinks amd cpus are hotter and u need like 4 case fans to cool it blah blah blah. in fact if im not wrong the intel pentium 4 consumes more power and is hotter than the amd fx 64 bit cpu.

    as for the turion i have read that it is very similiar in performance and battery life compared to the pentium m and in fact runs cooler when its idle. and notebooks with the amd turion tend to be cheaper(except the bloddy darn ferarri)
     
  15. londez

    londez Notebook Evangelist

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    if the processor in the deal would be an amd turion should i not go for that deal? i mean cause of battery life and the heat problems?

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    I can tell you right now that the diffference is so minescule (did i spell that right, no time to look it up) that you'd be getting ripped off if you went with the intel. Turion 2.2ghz=around 300. Pentium M 2.2ghz=around 750. I'm sorry but 450$ for 10% better battery life is absolutley criminal.
    I've also read articles that say that the Turion makes up for it's shortcomings in other areas of performance

    Intels aren't bad at all but I avoid getting them at all costs (unless they come with a particularly gpu or other spec that i can't find anywhere else) on the simple premise that they're products are criminally overpriced.
     
  16. Iskander

    Iskander Notebook Evangelist

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    The turion MT series doenst have the same voltage as the semprons??? 25W???

    And the turions for basic work arent better forbattery as it would run at 1600 mhz (or so) at 17 W (less than smpron)?
     
  17. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    There are 2 versions of the Sempron one rated to have a TDP of 25W and the other at 62W. The 25W(which most manufacturers use) are comparable to the Turions in power consumption and should give the same battery life as a Turion. The performance of the Sempron will be less.

    Both have PowerNow, so any of the Turions or the Sempron will give around the same battery life.