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    AMD Turion X2 (ultra) and ATI Chipset

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by naton, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hi

    1- I read somewhere in the forum that a laptop with a Turion X2 Ultra can be downgraded to a simple Turion X2 but a laptop with a Turion X2 can't be upgraded to an Ultra. It was argued that their sockets where different S1 and S1g.
    I looked everywhere in the internet and couldn't confirm this info. Any interesting links to read?

    2- cpu-cool states that " The PLL of NVidia Chipsets is included in the south bridge. So there is no PLL to find. NVidia southbridges are all supported."
    http://cpu-cool.de/FSB.HTM
    Is this true for ATI chipsets, because I can't find the clock gen in My gateway MX3101 motherboard?
    And what software is known to work with ATI chipsets (SB460)? as I want to downclock by reducing the FSB as it was done by Andy in his Acer 3680.

    Thanks
     
    naton, Aug 18, 2008
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    http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Turion-X2-Ultra-Notebook-Prozessor.10129.0.html
     
    R4000, Aug 19, 2008
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  3. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    What's the 3600 FSB in the above link? I thought that AMD don't have front bu sude since the memory controller is built on the CPU
     
    naton, Aug 25, 2008
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    They are just listing the max HyperTransport speed under "FSB" for comparative simplicity (wrong or right)..........
     
    R4000, Aug 25, 2008
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    That is correct! For the most part it is simply easier to do this way. The alternative is too complicated for most.

    For OP!

    Funny thing though inaccurate naming sometimes leads to changes of definitions. This is not there yet. But who knows about the future? ;)

    Consider for comparative purposes it has validity. Also consider the common usage of FSB has changed. If someone said this is not FSB and went on about? I would find them to be pedantic. At best.

    It is comparable and of value. But technically at this point the AMD's lack a FSB.
     
    powerpack, Aug 25, 2008
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    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    Last thing

    Does this mean that the HyperTransport in AMD CPUs is faster than AMD's CPUs clock speed?

    I found this in wikipedia
    Socket S1, HyperTransport (1800 MHz, 3600 MT/s, 12.8 GB/s CPU-RAM + 14.4 GB/s CPU-I/O transfer rate)

    from above is HT = 1800 Mhz? if yes than what's 3600 MT/s?
     
    naton, Aug 26, 2008
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