AMD VS INTEL in 3d app. & Gaming...

I wana know which processor will perform better in 3d applications and high performance games.

AMD Turion II Ultra Dual-Core Mobile Processor M600
2.40 GHz, 2MB L2 Cache
http://products.amd.com/en-us/NotebookCPUDetail.aspx?id=579&f1=&f2=&f3=&f4=&f5=&f6=&f7=&f8=&f9=

VS.

Intel Core 2 Duo P7550
2.26GHz, 3MB L2 Cache, 1033 FSB
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=42014

 

The P7550 gets 1675 points and the M600 get`s 1519 points , so get the P7550

Also the P7550 only uses up to 25Watts when the M600 uses up to 35watts , so the P7550 will run cooler.

EDIT: I am not certain if the P7550 supports virtulization if you need it, the M600 most likely will.

 

Not to mention the extra MB of L2 cache with the P7550! Assuming there's not a large price difference, P7550 is going to be the best option.

For 3D apps / gaming you should really be more concerned with the GPU.

 

AMD's run damn hot man....my old laptop always used to get too hot to handle..and i mean that in a bad way

 

Yeah you should be looking at the GPU rather than just the CPU for tasks like gaming or rendering. I mean, the P7550 is the better CPU, but if for example it comes with a GMA4500HD while the M600 comes with an HD4200, you'd be best with the AMD.

 

Thanks for ur reply guys

the laptop comes with ATI 4650 1GB DDR3, i think it can handle my work, also i think P7550 doesn't support visualization, but does it really matter ???

Also there is a DRR2 RAM and DRR3 RAM, does it affect the speed much or just in GPU in matters much ?

 

Get the P7550... it will run cooler , and is faster but it doesn't support Virtualisation... u need a P8400 at least for virtualisation.

 

You can still run virtual machines with either CPU, but you won't get the benefits of the virtualization technology. Just to be clear!

 

The new AMD Turion II and AMD Athlon II runs much cooler than the older AMD Turion x2.
And since its the higher end AMD Turion II M600 i bet it would also include a ATI Mobility HD 4650 or 4670 card, so gaming would be no problem.
AMD Turion II heating

 

The HP in my sig has all the panels on the bottom removed and sits on a NZXT cryo cooler and still runs hot.

 

You should undervolt it.

 

The new Turion II don't have any heating problems that I have heard about. The highest temp I have seen one get to so far was 68C, and I have seen plenty P7550 higher than that.

 

Yes the Turion IIs are as cool as Core 2 Duos; they just pack slightly less processing power. A Core 2 Duo is still stronger overall than a Turion II of the same caliber, but for the people who would consider both options it wouldn't be noticeable anyways. The Turion machines are generally a bit cheaper than Core 2 Duo machines as well.

Nonetheless, what's the price difference between both machines? For anything above 100$ I wouldn't consider it worth it assuming everything else was the same.

 

The P7550 is 100$ more expensive than the AMD, BUT the AMD comes with 4GB DDR-2 RAM, while the P7550 comes with 4GB DDR-3 RAM and the rest is exact the same.

And then come the P8800 a 100$ more expensive than the P7550 with the same specs too

Confused :/

 

Well if you want a more precise answer, you'd need to tell us lots more information so maybe it'd be best to simply fill out a FAQ(with your uses, budget and blah blah) and post in the "What Notebook Should I Buy?" subforum.

If you'd really rather not and you're adamant about the 3 options you're telling us about(which we don't even know which machines they're in which honestly could add to the pros/cons) then we can continue.

A point to take note of:
- DDR3 offers no performance boost over DDR2 currently. The only reason to get DDR3 RAM would be for future upgrades as DDR3 will become the new standard a few years' down the line.

 

The one with the AMD M600 processor cost 1050$:
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/me/en/ho/WF06b/321957-321957-3329744-64354-64354-4011364-4043718.html

The other one with P7550 cost 1150$:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...foCategory&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=sg&product=4043702

The last one with P8800 (2.66GHz not 2.4GHz as HP say) cost 1220$:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01882177&cc=sg&lc=en&dlc=en&product=4043711

 

Well it all depends what you're doing. To me, for basic use(internet, MS office music etc.) and even playing the occasional game, the M600 machine would do fine, but if you're looking at more intensive tasks, then maybe the better CPU is worth it.

Mind you, there might be better options than the 3 laptops you listed depending now hat you're looking for. You're looking at around 1000-1250$ price range and you can get quite a bit better specs on other companies for that price.

 

I use 3d max, corel draw, photoshop and i would like to play games like assassin's creed, crysis, batman AA, COD4, etc..

Laptops in Egypt is so expensive thats the best price i can find, i see people buy the same specs for 800-900$ in the US, Also I cant find certain models like the Asus N-Series and G-Series and they don't know anything about Sager =/ . We have here Toshiba, Dell, HP, Acer, and old models of lenovo

 

Well look, if that's the best you can do then it's the best you can do I suppose. I suppose importing might cost a bit too(not only in shipping, but in customs taxes) and there's warranty issues so yeah, maybe it's best to stick with what you can get locally.

Well here's my take on it: 3dmax and Corel take a fair amount of CPU power while the games you listed not so much(except maybe Crysis). The HD4650 will run all those games at high or medium settings so you should be fine.

So overall, I guess the P8800 might be justifiable considering it might be the best you can get where you are.

 

I found Toshiba L505-10X for 1050$ but lower a little bit in the HD and processor:
http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/product/Satellite-L505-10X/1076414/
more quality is given from toshiba than HP i think but most of the laptops now r imported from China

if i bought the P7550 can i upgrade it later with a better CPU ? (if yes, what modules can run on the motherboard like T series or higher P series)

 

Those who argue that AMD runs hotter, really should get there facts straight. The temperature the system runs is directly correlated to the heatsink/fan combination in your laptop. You cant compare laptop A with Intel to laptop B with AMD. They will have different heatsinks/fans.

K-TRON

 

K-TRON,

But that's why the Intel systems are better, heatwise (because of the different heatsinks/fans).

 

I respectfully disagree with Intel being a lot better than the M600.

The L2 cache is negligible most of the time, and when there is a difference it is in the sub 10% difference, more like a 4-6%.

AMD also has HyperTransport AFAIK, and a fast clock, so I see it as a more viable option if you intend to save money.

The heat from old AMD chips is mostly on HP's fault, and their lack of a good cooling system.

 

The AMD will perform similarly if not slightly below the P7550, but it's going to be a negligible difference IMO. The P8800 might best the AMD, but for what the OP is doing the AMD will be more than adequate.

And I thought we already established that the new AMD CPUs ran just as cool as Core 2 Duos.

 

if you are willing to spend $1220 , u can easily get a Hp DV6t with core i7 processor and GT230M... it will cost around that amount but the performance will be way better... if u look out for some cashback like the bing cashback , it will be cheaper... so skip core 2 duo and go to core i7... and if ur'e willing to spend a little bit more , u can Get an ASUS G51J with full HD screen , core i7 processor and NVDIA GTX260M which would own both laptops but costs slightly more at $1499... u can get it cheaper on some online retailers...