AMD puts USB 3.0 into its Fusion chipsets

Does this mean we will see 3 or 4 USB 3.0 ports soon (as in this quarter or next) in notebooks using AMD chipsets? If so does that mean Llano or any fusion chipset notebooks? I am not as familiar with AMD as I am with Intel processors/chipsets (and I am not a expert at those)


Amd puts usb 3.0 into its fusion chipsets- The Inquirer

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The Llano processors are they equivalent (or suppose to be) to Sandy Bridge or Arrandale core i processors?

 

well they should be, but its not what we are expecting

 

I'm personally hoping for a direct competitor. I <3 AMD, but they haven't done anything really good in the last 5 years. =(

<3 my old K6.

 

Llano's GPU should be 2-3x better than than Sandy Bridge. The CPU portion is descendant from AMD's previous Danube platform although with many new power saving features as well as a new manufacturing process.

 

Its going to be interesting with AMD behind usb 3.0 and Intel and Apple pushing Thunderbolt.

Lets see if their able to change AMDs mind or will Intel even let AMD use Thunderbolt

 

thunderbolt is up for grabs

 

And so is my money, depending upon which one of these technologies receives a decent amount of support from audio interface manufacturers. I'm inclined to believe that it'll be USB3 since most of them seem to be taking USB2 seriously these days, but the game is still far too early to call.

Anyway, this is an interesting development indeed.

 

If they can give me an IPS(or close to it) tablet with usb 3.0 and a Fusion cpu better than SU9x00 series the TT has, I am sold. I kind of miss my old Athalon based Shuttle rig.

 

I'm happy to hear that. Intel's really harming itself with no USB3.0 support. I doubt AMD will have that a great effect on the laptop market but it should be destroying atom in the netbook market which it is already doing. Perks like this will just help AMD more and more. I would think Intel would be smart enought to support USB3.0 but they are not.

 

Supporting a rival technology to the in-house developed LightPeak immediately is probably not on high on Intel's list of priorities. They're also willing to gamble that their new technology will leave USB3.0 going the way of the Sony Betamax, however AMD doesn't have the same dilemma.

 

the great advantage of USB is just that, there is a consortium behind it.

However lightpeak is a great tech, and its an ''open tech'' in the sense of no royalties, you just slap it in and you are done. You have only to buy the component.

So its not really up to AMD to put it, but to the OEMs to put that, since lightpeak is ''just'' a connection between a peripheral and a pcie interface

its really going to depend on the cry from the consumers for it, just like when USB3 came out, every one was crying that their things didnt support USB3 because they would lose the future proofing. Actually everyone is still crying because of the lack of USB3 support

Aside data transfer I dont really see the need for USB3, didnt quite catch the hype behind it, I still prefer esata or lightpeak

 

It hurts customers more than it hurts Intel.

 

Not really. Many people are happy with USB3.0 and with all the USB3.0 controllers made by other brands its not too bad. It will take this decade to make USB3.0 standard though.

 

Intel is the world's largest chipmaker. If Intel doesn't get behind a technology it's slow to get adopted. For the fact that computer makers don't want to spend extra for features (in this case a third party USB 3.0 controller) when they can get all features for free from intel chipsets. Intel knows this, and since they are backing their own proprietary format (thunderbolt) because they can get royalties for it, which by the way, USB is royalty free, the industry as a whole is slow to adopt the new USB standard. That is IMHO anti-competitive and hurts consumers.

 

thunderbolt is royalty free

 

Let me guess, this has happened before?
AMD pushed x86_64 and Intel pushed Itanium, guess who won?
No prizes for the right answer.
Being backward compatible tend to have home-ground advantage.

 

<s>No it is not. It is proprietary.</s>

Edit: Apparently the jury is still out on that. Nothing definitive yet.

 

Its out there you dont pay royalties for the use.

Thunderbolt is a I/O type of connection with a pcie interface, its that. You have to install a chip connected to either the south or northbridge.

The only thing you are going to pay is for the part itself, as you pay for each USB part.

IF I remembe correctly the thunderbolt demo that intel showed sometime ago, used a USB connector type. The deal is that the interface itself, is connector independent. You can have a thunderbolt that is equal to a USB cable, or a Display Port...

I only hope for the best for thunderbolt since its clearly superior to USB3, faster, pass more power, direct connection to a pcie x4 interface.