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    AMD to challenge Intel at 32nm in 2010

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Jayayess1190, Feb 28, 2009.

  1. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Jayayess1190, Feb 28, 2009
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    Here's the relevant quote from the link:
    So really, it's about 1.5 to 2 years out and what sounds like about a year behind Intel. Still, let's see what they do with it.
     
    Althernai, Feb 28, 2009
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    Based on recent history that would just be server and desktop. AMD never values mobile segment.
     
    sreesub, Feb 28, 2009
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    Based on recent history that would just be server and desktop. By the time AMD releases 32nm mobile CPU, intel would be on verge of releasing 22nm mobile.
     
    sreesub, Feb 28, 2009
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    A few months behind is not really being behind.

    This year Intel will produce 32nm chips (Westmere), and next year (2010) they will be working on the new architecture (Sandy Bridge). Therefore, in 2010 both AMD and Intel will be competing with 32nm CPUs in Q1. They caught up.

    A more important question is whether AMD is going to shrink their chips again in 2011, and can this match Intel's 22nm plans. From the news it appears AMD should be in a position for this 22nm shrink:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ibm-intel,6175.html

    It should be a nice fight. I am looking forward to seeing their fusion CPU technology.

    Looking forward to a fanless laptops, please.
     
    Pikachu, Mar 1, 2009
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    Definitely agree. AMD should develop a mobile platform (with AMD mainboards if needed) to break Intel monopoly. I think even VIA is more active.
     
    CoreRepublican, Mar 1, 2009
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    This is not consistent with the article in the initial post. I will repeat the quote:
    Q4 2010 (which is when one might reasonably see these new AMD processors) is not Q1 2010. Intel still leads them by 9 months to 1 year.
    This is more interesting. If they can get to 22nm by 2011, then will indeed have caught up. However, since they're still at 45nm as of 2009, this is a rather big if.
     
    Althernai, Mar 1, 2009
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    I bet it wont be few months. It will be at least an year. with the new foundry company taking over the fabs, they would need ROI on the fab before they would go on to next fab. Intel has revenues of over $35B a year while AMD has < $6B. foundry would need new customers for AMD to keep in pace with intel.
     
    sreesub, Mar 1, 2009
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  9. NJoy

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    AMD needs to come up with something really new to compete against intel. Changing the process will not help much by itself. It's painful for me too see how far behind AMD is, as I always been their fanboy. All my desktops are AMD based, and I would probably buy a Turion Ultra laptop if I found one with competitive graphics...
     
    NJoy, Mar 2, 2009
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  10. IntelUser

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    Yes. It is really not safe to skip one process node to go to the next one.

    First shipped products:

    0.18 micron
    Intel: June 14, 1999
    AMD: November 29, 1999

    5.5 month gap

    0.13 micron
    Intel: June 21st, 2001
    AMD: April 17th, 2002

    10 month gap

    90nm
    Intel: Feb 1, 2004
    AMD: August 17th, 2004

    6 month gap

    65nm
    Intel: December 27th, 05
    AMD: December 5th, 06

    11.5 month gap

    45nm
    Intel: November 12th, 07
    AMD: November 13th, 08

    12 month gap

    Mmm, I don't know they don't seem to be catching up, rather the other way around.
     
    IntelUser, Mar 2, 2009
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    Intel and Nvidia are already in court, and now Intel with AMD ... lol
     
    mikey88, Mar 2, 2009
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    It's not out of the question as they have done it for their graphics cards from 55nm to 40nm in a short time. Well, we can always hope for more fierce competition, anyway.

    Should be interesting.
     
    Pikachu, Mar 4, 2009
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