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    AMD vs. Intel (why is AMD so much cheaper?)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by jonnybardo, Oct 7, 2007.

  1. jonnybardo

    jonnybardo Notebook Consultant

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    Could someone please explain the difference--in non-techy terms--between AMD and Intel processors? If a processor is 1.8 ghz (for example) does it matter who made it? Aren't both reputable companies?

    And if Intel are better/faster, does it matter if 95% of what I do is internet browsing and word processing?

    Thanks!

    p.s. for example, this HP Pavilion is on sale for $550; a comparable computer with an Intel Core Duo would cost at least a couple hundred dollars more. Why?
     
  2. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    AMD is cheaper for unknown reasons mostly.
    That CPU will run comparable to similair C2D
    It has a faster bus(double of the C2Ds because of the memory controller),65nm(like C2Ds) etc.

    It's not AMD vs. Intel
    It's Processer vs Processer
     
  3. powerpack

    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    I understand your confusion! But you cannot just compare CPU's. I guess what I am trying to tell you is there is more than CPU involved. I can tell you AMD has better Graphics than Intel. Intel CPU's are considered better than AMD but if you buy a good one from either at the same clockspeed not very much difference, I would buy Intel if the price was the same, GPU same,
     
  4. jonnybardo

    jonnybardo Notebook Consultant

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    So the linked laptop with an AMD Athlon 64x2 processor, 1.8 ghz, would be comparable to the Intel Core 2 Duo of the same ghz?

    And which is better, the Athlon or Turion?
     
  5. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    1) yes
    2) depends on the particular proc. Turions are up to 2.4GHz but Athlon X2 TK series max at 1.8GHz I believe.
     
  6. powerpack

    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    1.8 Intel vs AMD, Intel overall is considered faster. What GPU comes with? How do I consider? AMD runs hotter, What do you really want to know.
     
  7. jonnybardo

    jonnybardo Notebook Consultant

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    So for my purposes--as I said above, mainly writing and internet--is there any reason to pay more than the $550 Pavilion at BestBuy that I linked to? I am trying to resist the temptation to always go for the "upgraded" model, when in actuality--at least for my purposes--there is very little difference between a $550 laptop and a $1500 one.

    For some reason I was under the impression that AMD was lower quality, slower.
     
  8. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    PowerPack you are referring to 65nm vs. 90nm The newer turions & athlon TK series are 65nm.
    Get the AMD.
     
  9. powerpack

    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    My young little friend, do not be so sure. ;)
     
  10. Redline

    Redline Notebook Prophet NBR Reviewer

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    AMD is cheaper because it does not perform as well. An Intel based notebook will out perform an AMD one. Guaranteed. Intel also has lower power consumption and lower heat output.
     
  11. jonnybardo

    jonnybardo Notebook Consultant

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    Vivek, do the AMDs burn up the battery quicker?
     
  12. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    As burn up do you mean lifetime or 1 charge?
     
  13. jonnybardo

    jonnybardo Notebook Consultant

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    Both, but especially one charge.
     
  14. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    1)I get 3+hours.(21% wear)
    They consume about the same amount.
    2)CPU doesn't affect batter lifetime.
     
  15. Molson31

    Molson31 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I never really understood AMD vs Intel in ghz terms. I have an AMD 64 (and I only run 32 bit anyways? don't get that either) 4000 at 2.4 ghz on my PC, and I've had this with a x800 for like 2 years now or more and the thing still runs everything on max settings. I always heard that AMD was better for gaming so I'm not sure if that was just a myth or what. Either way it's never given me any problems whether its a just a game or running a game while surfing the net and using 3ds max and photoshop at the same time.
     
  16. R4000

    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Recently I don't find the AMD units to be much cheaper (with HP anyway). I equipped two dv9500 Pavilions to my liking and the AMD was about $30 cheaper, with a lesser graphics card and cpu. Not a real major bargain there once you start piling on the options............. :)
     
  17. hmmmmm

    hmmmmm Notebook Deity

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    for your needs, get the AMD
     
  18. Rottie

    Rottie Notebook Consultant

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    I wonder why Turion 64 TL-53 renamed as Athlon 64 X2????
     
  19. R4000

    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    You mean TK-53? The half L2 cache disabled cpus are dubbed Athlon64 X2 in following with Intel's Pentium Dual-Core nomenclature (a separate budget-branding).

    Personally, I think it is a bad choice of naming. When I think of Athlon64 X2, I think desktop cpu (= higher performance).
     
  20. ez2remember

    ez2remember Notebook Evangelist

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    AMD are slightly slower but I doubt you'll notice any difference if you're mainly going to be using it for internet and word processing. Even my VERY old 700Mhz desktop could do that without breaking much of a sweat.

    I hope this helps.
     
  21. lexluthor5

    lexluthor5 Newbie

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    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    Nah, it's a Yonah-based (Core Duo) Pentium Dual Core.
     
  23. lexluthor5

    lexluthor5 Newbie

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    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    It's under the Pentium dual core page and it's the slowest CPU there (1,46GHz). It's yonah Based. Or maybe not. It's apperantly merom based. It's still 1,46ghz and the slowest pentium mobile.
     
  25. wolfraider

    wolfraider Grand Viezir of Chaos

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    even if its merom based it has 1mb l2 cache and very low clock frequency, so it is sure that it will perform much worse in everything than what the op has chosen.
    I think you should target 1,6 Ghz as minimum being dual core or not.
     
  26. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    AMD processors are much cheaper than Intel processors mainly because AMD is trying to make up for their lack in sales. Intel processors have taken the lead over AMD, and AMD is combatting this by decreasing their prices. If I were you, I would get the Intel Core 2 Duo, it will be much faster and cooler than the AMD turion. The AMD turion line is not that great, and yes, I am an AMD fanboy, but their notebook processors are not as good as Intels.

    This is why I had to buy a huge expensive notebook, becuase I wanted a real AMD in it.

    I would go with the Intel.

    K-TRON
     
  27. Rottie

    Rottie Notebook Consultant

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    yeah sorry about that. I suppose it is so hot?
     
  28. R4000

    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    What's hot? The cpu, or the name?
     
  29. Redline

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    They consume more power, so they have lower battery life.
     
  30. jonnybardo

    jonnybardo Notebook Consultant

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    But how much lower? For example, let's say the 6-cell would give an HP Pavilion Intel on low usage 2.5 hours; how long would it give the AMD one?
     
  31. Harper2.0

    Harper2.0 Back from the dead?

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    they'd be about the same, i believe
     
  32. Jeff

    Jeff Notebook Retard

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    yes, the difference would be negligable. alot also depends on other components and the screen size.
     
  33. Mobil1

    Mobil1 Notebook Guru

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    For gaming and impressive benchmarks to wow your friends, go Core2Duo. For general tasks and everything else, get whichever is the best deal. I was recently faced with a similiar decision between the Asus F9Dc-A1 (AMD) & the Asus F9J-A1 (Core2Duo). Similiar specs and I finally settled for the AMD which was $200 cheaper which I used towards a RAM upgrade and I couldn't be happier.
     
  34. Byakko

    Byakko Notebook Geek

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    I agree with Mobil1. You won't see much of a difference using a C2D versus an AMD processor. Both will do your job of websurfing just fine.

    I heard AMD is cheaper because they need an edge to sell their chips. I remember when Intel's Core Duo came out, and it blew away all of AMD's chips. AMD has still not caught up, and none of their comparable chips are better than Intel's. So what AMD did to compete is to sell their chips at a much lower price.
     
  35. zenpharaohs

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    That's true for some applications and false for others. It depends on what you do with the machine which is faster.
     
  36. Rottie

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    the cpu is what I am talking about
     
  37. R4000

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    Since the TK-53 is in your notebook, you'd be a better judge of that than me. ;)

    As for my 65nm TL-58, I think it runs a bit warmer compared to my old 90nm Sempron 3300+.


    :)