AMD's Ryzen CPUs (Ryzen/TR/Epyc) & Vega/Polaris/Navi GPUs

Yeah, the RAM will do that, with the new bios and now solid 3466 ram settings;

 

You need only 3 wimpy points for breaking 3.5K

 

Nice. I got 3501-07 when I tried 4.0GHz. But I noticed my ram speeds going down as I increased CPU speed. But, that is doing it out of order anyways, so what do you expect... LOL! So I'll probably start fresh and follow actual OC procedures I normally follow.

Also, here is my ram AIDA scores:



Edit: I'm going for 4050 core now, which seems good at 1.25V. Now for tightening the ram.

 

4050 was a no go here. I have to blame it on the board as when you set 1.350 vcore it will not go over it, where as most other boards use the much looser voltages of the CPU and will spike over that if need be. I am too chicken to try higher settings as this would avail the CPU to them at all times, not just required spikes etc.. For now 4.0 GHz is fine.

 

I hear you. The fact I can use so little voltage I solute SL!
Here is my 4.05GHz 3600 work in progress. I have more work to do on the ram timings, but....

 

I've been goated, 4050 1.375;

 

Very fine score there!!! Believe it or not, your getting better than many at that speed!
http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/ryzen_threadripper_1950x/
The US record on HWBot for the US is 3565 set at 4150. Either of us with our tweaking could beat that at 4100, nearly reaching it at 4050 (100MHz less). So, Asrock has done a nice job, as I've regularly seen it hold it's own against other boards at higher multipliers.


BTW, just some more benches:

 

on Wprime 32 I can't touch your time, on the 1024 I get 43.552 but I can't seem to get under 3.3 for the other.

 

That is a good 1024 score! As for the 32 score, ram timings and less processes on a clean OS is likely the cause...

 

If you want to, try tightening the tFAW. That is a good one to get some speed on, at least for mine. I saw really good performance jumps for that.

Do you have testmem 5.0? Great tool for quick validation of the timings or to see quickly if you over tightened (not a replacement for more thorough memory testing utilities, but really good for a quick analysis while tweaking). It takes 7::20 minutes to 8::10 or so each run, but does very well at the task...

 

Look forward to seeing how my CPU matches up once I get it running next week.

 

What are you going with?

 

I went with Intel in the end. We will see how well it runs. I expect around 4k-4.3k.

Threadripper is better buy though, I know that.

Have you experience the throttling at 68c yet?

 

The games a foot...

 

Tbh, I never really considered threadripper. I was comparing dual EPYC 7281/7301 vs 7980XE.
I didnt go with EPYC due to cost of the motherboard. EPYC chips are however, dirt cheap and awesome bargains. Far better bargain than Intel and Threadripper IMO.

 

I get some throttle past that, but not hard throttle. That's why I was surprised that even without reseating I didn't see much temp rise on increasing the multiplier. This chip is pretty good though [email protected].

But we will see, and your scores will beat mine, but I'm happy with the buy. Still waiting for 7nm though...

And I dropped off the face of the earth for awhile (work and headaches), but am planning on more optimizations on my system to come. So...

 

Which motherboards for Epyc were you looking at?

Did you see the "news" about Epyc 2 II? 2nd Generation? Sorry I forgot to post it...

AMD Second Gen EPYC Beastly Server CPUs Could Rock 64 Cores, 128 Threads And 256MB Cache
Brandon Hill — Tuesday, October 31, 2017
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-epyc-2-64-cores-128-threads-and-256mb-l3-cache

"...Where things really get interesting is with the revelation that the maximum core count has increased from 32 cores to 64 cores. That means that the top-spec EPYC 2 part will be capable of executing a staggering 128 threads.

The final piece to the puzzle comes with respect to L3 cache, and this marks another significant upgrade.

Current EPYC processors feature 2MB of L3 cache per core, with the current 32-core EPYC 7551P featuring 64MB of total L3 cache.

The leak from Canard PC Hardware suggests that this figure will quadruple, with 64-core processors serving as home to 256MB of L3 cache.

If AMD can manage to move 12nm LP process technology and eventually 7nm, it's not out of the realm of possibility that 64 cores and 256MB of L3 cache could be crammed into future EPYC processors. In a follow-up tweet, the publication says that base TDP for the new processor will be 225W and will max out at 240W."

Maybe when your Intel burns up, melt's down, or goes sideways, you can enjoy the benefits of the 2nd generation Epyc silicon...

 

The supermicro one, cant remember the name.

EPYC 2 is probably at least another year away. 7nm is at best risk production in late 2018. I dont want to sit and wait for the best thing all the time.

I would not want a full 64 core EPYC anyways, I would rather get 2x 32 cores at bargain bin pricing. Same reason why I never look at 7551, rather at 7281/7301.

Why would my Intel burn up??? 7980XE is an excellent processor that I will be clocking to around 4.2-4.3ghz without monoblock and delid. With those things, I can run 4.5ghz comfortably. Intel's design is incredibly efficient at lower clocks.

 

Maybe you didn't see the posts, in the i9 thread...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-x299-xeon-1p-2p.804776/page-21#post-10625278

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-x299-xeon-1p-2p.804776/page-21#post-10625319

 

Wrong on timeline, my friend. GloFo is entering risk production on 7nm in H1 2018 and volume in H2. Further, AMD is taping out certain 7nm products this quarter and has ramped up R&D spending last quarter, as well as extra expenses on the WSAs. Also, TSMC is already in 7nm risk production. So I know saying risk production late 2018 is wrong, not to say products won't likely wait to be here until 2019.

Have no problem with the rest of the statement though, although if 64 core is the new flagship, I wonder if they will price the 32 core where the EPYC 16 core currently is and the speed and IPC improvement. But that gets to speculation.

 

Fair enough. However, I doubt the product will be here until H1 2019. AMD is a bit interesting on their stock performance as well.

 

Have nothing to do with Intel. Having everything to do with manufacturer not engineering for decent thermal performance. Looking at those heatsinks, they didnt even try.

 

Actually it does have to do with Intel

Intel published the design specs, thermal and power limits, for 10c/20t CPU's, and then too late for the designers to change the motherboards Intel AMD'd up to 18c/36t, requiring far more power from VRM's and far more cooling.

It's all on Intel for the first generation x299 MB's being short on power and cooling, hopefully the followup designs will catch up with the 7980XE demands.

 

Also don't forget Intel's shoddy use of the thermal compound below the heat spreader.
AMD did things correctly with Ryzen's heat spreader... hence, 0 need for de-liding on there.

 

Yeah, several comments in the videos linked to @tgipier say that it looks even worse, but silver lining is 15c-20c improvement from delidding

 

Which is in all reality quite odd coming from a company that's supposedly better and has far greater resources than AMD.
I'm genuinely surprised that this issue was here practically since the heat spreaders were first introduced and Intel never corrected the problem (have they even looked into it to begin with?).
There's a ton of information about this issue online... it would be VERY odd if they aren't aware of it.

Anyway, I'd like to see greater support for open software AMD is pushing like TressFX and other features inherent in Polaris and Vega.

Also, do we have any updated information on HSA/HUMA?
I know that this technology usually works with APU's, but I was under the impression Ryzen would have this technology as well... and whether it could use it in the absence of an IGP by relying on an AMD GPU instead?
The higher likelihood is that we might actually get to see greater adoption of HSA/HUMA now that AMD also has a powerful mobile APU in play with Ryzen and Vega - also, are AMD planning on implementing an IGP in Ryzen 2 and Ryzen 3 revisions or will they be focusing only on these being pure CPU's like the first Ryzen we have now and APU's coming later?

 

I am W`10 Pro, and no where near clean.

Have not had much time to play but FAW from 39 to 31 on the 3466 memory, much better;

 

Well you beat my wprime score, but I could only get my tFAW down to 40 at 3600. So I'll have to see what I can do with slower speed and even tighter timings...

 

Thanks, it helped out here a lot. Seems to help execution of in cache, other than L1, items.

 

The Best Value Performance GPU, GTX 1070 Ti vs. RX Vega 56 [35 Game Benchmark]

 

Compute cores + RAM = Win (always)


disclaimer: I skipped to the last few minutes of the video and then scrubbed through to the end stopping randomly a few times.

 

A couple of more tries;

 

See, it's not that hard to get through these video's, after watching them through a couple of times you notice patterns and commonalities.

Once you know the common features you can jump to points in their reviews to get the jist and results quickly, then decide if there is a reason to watch the whole video - as the real tidbits are the things they don't say, or have in the background, or casually drop.

At some point your impatience will be overridden briefly and you'll actually be motivated to watch something, and gain insights from their hands-on experience.

It'll sneak up on you, you'll find yourself settling in for a listen to your favorite reviewers in the background while you do other things. Ready to click to focus watching some interesting points carefully.

It's fun, and if you play them right, you can get through a bunch of them quickly

 

Is that full stability in the timings? because those numbers look AWESOME! You have beat both of mine on those. Try running Cinebench 15 again now!!! You may get 3560+

 

Nah, it will never happen.

 

CBR15 seems no faster but when the system is free I will try it out. I am using the settings with no real issue so far.

Funny thing is Wprime seems to be faster with a few browser windows open than from a clean boot;

 

Try this program. It is Testmem5. Nice, quick check to see if any errors are being kicked. Much simpler than a P95 hour long check or P95 overnight or memtest86 overnight (although I recommend those after timings are finalized), or the two pass windows memory checker program.

 

So, just got a bios update @TANWare for the Taichi x399. It has AGESA 1.0.0.4 for TR.

 

Yeah, I had trouble getting my daughter to eat sushi like that... many attempts, lots of "California Roll" later, a few "What's Uni?" like moments, and she discovered that she liked it!!

 

AMD Inside! 8th Gen Intel Core CPUs with AMD Radeon Graphics

AssassinKlD 20 hours ago
AMD is red
Intel is blue
Now they join forces
What will nVIDIA do?
Dingleberry Tech 20 hours ago
Buy a Ryzen mobile laptop? AMD makes money.
Buy an Intel powered laptop? AMD makes money.
Sneaky little devil
ryan xie 19 hours ago
Buy a Laptop = AMD Profits (Ryzen Mobile / AMD Graphics in Intel)
Buy a Console = AMD Profits (Jaguar APU)
Buy a Apple = AMD Profits (Vega)
hmmm
AMD GPU With Intel CPU For Thin Gaming Laptop?!

 

You are trying the impossible, bruh lure @tilleroftheearth to see same video more than 1 times Domed to faile!!

 

The mind never quits, it only needs to know it's possible, then it says, "ok, wtf, let's do this", then it is only a matter of time before it happens.

 

http://www.pcgamer.com/radeon-boss-raja-koduri-leaves-amd/
So, Raja has left, indefinitely...

 

Yeah, I read his letter of resignation to the employee's, it's a tough job and no matter how good you are we are all only human.

He did a great job, a tough job, and succeeded within the limits of what he had to work with, we will be seeing the fruits of that labor for several more years.

Exclusive: Raja Koduri, Radeon Technologies Boss, leaves AMD
by Tarinder Sandhu on 7 November 2017, 21:30
https://hexus.net/tech/news/graphic...a-koduri-radeon-technologies-boss-leaves-amd/

 

It will be easier to learn a camel or pig to read. Stop dreaming, bruh Or...

 

Papusan; you understand me well.

hmscott; I already know it's possible. But even a pig or a camel with limited time to do everything I need to get done in a day won't restart a video from the beginning.

 

You don't re-read or re-watch anything?

So, you literally don't know what you are missing...

Spoiler

 

I don't re-watch videos (at least not online variety) and I don't usually re-read anything either.

But I do look up the text/info I'm interested in - video isn't even in the same league here.

What I'm missing doesn't feel like much either. I see kids (6, 7 and 8 year olds) binge watching on their parents itard phone and want to cry... so much for raising your kids today.

 

Raja has left; hope AMD (from the top to the bottom) listens to his parting words and takes them to heart:

". Stay focused on the roadmap!

. Deliver on your commitments!"


Being the best in the world is one way to achieve success. But only one can hold that spot for but a short time...

Being consistent and delivering what you promise is something we can all achieve and strive for. Yeah; mere humans treating each other humanely. (Image that).

 

I watch a video if it have the info I want. But I usually don't follow the whole video. Very interesting video is another matter. Aka all depends on what it is