AMD's Ryzen CPUs (Ryzen/TR/Epyc) & Vega/Polaris/Navi GPUs

How much longer until you have your nice new Norwegian super high-speed internet available?

 

Everyone has signed. More than expected But Norway is a snow hollow or better say North Pole!! Waiting for the frost to go away from the ground before they can start up. Maybe finish mid-July.

 

Ryzen 2700X and 2600X Zen+: The Uneasy Unboxenating
Level1Techs
Published on Apr 13, 2018


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UNORIGINAL RYZEN 2 UNBOXING!!
Bitwit
Published on Apr 13, 2018

RYZEN 2nd Gen 12nm Pre-Launch Details - Is The 2700X the VALUE KING?!
Tech YES City
Published on Apr 14, 2018
We have x470 coming and 4 new SKUs (the Ryzen 7 2700X, 2700, Ryzen 5 2600X & 2600) of Ryzen CPUs hitting shelves April 19th, that are on 12nm. AMD are looking like they are going to top 2017 by making 2018 another great year for the CPU market. However they have changed their SKU pricing and line up a little bit this time around, with making what I believe their flagship not only the best, but also the best price performance option out there. Here's why.


AMD Ryzen 2nd Gen Details: Four CPUs, Pre-Order Today, Reviews on the 19th
by Ian Cutress on April 13, 2018 9:00 AM EST
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12642/amd-ryzen-2nd-gen-details-4-skus-reviews-19th

" The Base Line
AMD will launch four new 2nd Generation Ryzen processors on April 19th, with pre-orders starting today. The top end processor, the Ryzen 7 2700X, will have a suggested retail price of $329, and come bundled with the new Wraith Prism RGB cooler. Based on the processor specifications, using the new 12nm process from GlobalFoundries has given the base core design some extra headroom for peak frequency, and it would appear that yield is good given the $329 peak price being well below the $499 initial pricing of the previous generation high end processor. There are other details about the process and the core design, however those are still under embargo. Full reviews will be available from April 19th."

AMD's 2nd-gen Ryzen CPUs are faster, cheaper, and all come with Wraith coolers
New generation, new prices.
By Gordon Mah Ung, PCWorld | APR 13, 2018 6:00 AM PT

AMD’s new 2nd-gen Ryzen CPUs compared to the original Ryzen chips.

The value AMD is providing with Ryzen2 prices, unbelievable! Mad props to AMD, killing it!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8c332t/the_value_amd_is_providing_with_ryzen2_prices/

 

Ryzen 2 - Launch Preview - April 19th
Published on Apr 14, 2018

 

https://streamable.com/idfcc

Dr. Lisa Su at the Chinese F1 Grand Prix just now.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8cddzh/dr_lisa_su_at_the_chinese_f1_grand_prix_just_now/

https://twitter.com/LisaSu/status/985442450083725314?s=19

 

LOL did the reporter even have a REMOTE idea of who he picked up as a "random first person" for his interview? HAHAHA xD

Lisa be like: duuuuuude, u dunno **** about crap *rollseyes behind sunglasses*

 

We might have a better idea of why Ryzen+ isn't getting lower voltages with higher frequencies, and why the TDP rose for 2700x:
https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/077d91a3-d94e-4a68-815b-bf80c1c79c52.png

This indicates that the 12nm LP used by AMD and GLOFO is in fact not based on IBM's high performance process, but is instead (again) focused for low performance and mobile parts.

So, would someone care to explain this? :
https://www.globalfoundries.com/new...-technology-for-high-performance-applications

"2FDX provides an alternative path for the next generation of connected intelligent systems, enabling the performance of 10nm FinFET with better power consumption, lower cost, and better RF integration than current-generation foundry FinFET offerings."

 

TBH and fair, TDP is not the watts being consumed it more is the allowed power leakage (being shed) that is in the form of the heat generated before the chip is rated to collapse. We also then must have a cooling solution that can shed the heat generated and keep within thermal limits as well.

 

Whole quote:

" GF's new 12nm FinFET technology complements its existing 12nm FD-SOI offering, 12FDX TM. While some applications require the unsurpassed performance of FinFET transistors, many connected devices need high levels of integration and more flexibility for performance and power consumption, at costs FinFET cannot achieve. 12FDX provides an alternative path for the next generation of connected intelligent systems, enabling the performance of 10nm FinFET with better power consumption, lower cost, and better RF integration than current-generation foundry FinFET offerings."

 

All well and good, but given that 2700x has a TDP of 105W, and can only boost to 4.3GhZ on 1 core... doesn't that contradict that last sentence?
If anything, we are seeing a minor improvement of the GF 14nm process but with same apparent restrictions in terms of the process being suited for lower clocks and mobile parts.

 

Maybe you are reading too much into the TDP specification?

We haven't seen the power draw, and won't until starting 4/19, so we should wait until then and see what the power draw is in comparison between the 1700x/1800x and the 2700x, etc.

So let's see how the new Ryzen 2 uses it's performance / watt in actual use.

The problem is with my translation, it looks like their quote compares their 12nm to competitors 10nm:

"12FDX provides an alternative path for the next generation of connected intelligent systems, enabling the performance of 10nm FinFET with better power consumption, lower cost, and better RF integration than current-generation foundry FinFET offerings."

So I will go back and fix my post

 

Yeah, I noticed that... though, you'd think 10nm FinFET would be inherently superior to 14nm LPP... and as such, you'd still be able to achieve same TDP with higher boosting frequencies.
I realize TDP is not the same as power draw, but usually for AMD CPU's and GPU's power draw tends to end in the similar W ballpark as TDP, if not higher.

But, you are also correct that we should wait to see the final product before making any final statements... it's just that to me, the technical specs (at the moment) seem to produce very different results in comparison to what was said of the product.

Also, what is 2700x supposed to replace?
1700x or 1800x?
From what I could tell, its a successor to 1800x... but at higher TDP and not quite the 10% higher boost (unless the remainder of performance is in the architecture optimizations - which is definitely possible).

 

The Ryzen 1.0 1700 / 1700x / 1800 / 1800x turned out to be over doing the spread at the top, since all of those models were essentially the same when OC'd to about the same end result, no matter which model you choose.

The 2700x / 2700 cover all 4 previous models, 1700 / 1700x / 1800 / 1800x , at a much lower price for the highest performance model, a big price savings over the Ryzen 1.0 prices.

There are no viable rumors that I've seen for 2800x / 2800, except "where are they"?

AMD could probably get away with a single 2700x without a cooler, and offer the RGB coolers as accessory to the CPU. The same for the other sku's, have a single X model, and unbundle the cooler.

There is probably some element of "shelf" space grabbing involved in AMD's sku spread decisions.

 

I might be wrong but I think it is because of x370 chipsets. Since the older chipset does not use xfr2 most may want to then purchase the 2700. Now the 2700x may then be designated to x470 chipset boards for the added stock performance.

 

Get Ready… They’re Nearly Here! | Ryzen Zen+ Preview
Published on Apr 16, 2018
Ryzen 7 2700X, Ryzen 7 2700, Ryzen 5 2600X & Ryzen 5 2600, The second generation of Ryzen CPUs are hitting shelves April 19th, a new 12nm process, 2nd generation tweaks, their Zen+ CPU’s look to be VERY impressive. Ryzen 7 2700X review and Ryzen 5 2600x review coming soon.

 

12 FDX is NOT their 12nm finFET being used in Ryzen+. The silicon on insulator (SOI) is an alternative process. There are two processes being discussed in that paragraph. So try again.

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The rumors on that are some boards that are X370 will have better compatibility with xfr2 than others. With that is the potential issue of xfr2 compatibility because of initial design or firmware. But, we'll know more in 3 days after the embargo.

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Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Case Review + (ThreadRipper) Build
Published on Apr 16, 2018
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112583

 

Car-crash television: 'Excuse me ma'am, do you speak English?' 'Yes I do,' replies AMD's CEO
Martin Brundle left red-faced after Chinese Grand Prix snafu
By Iain Thomson in San Francisco 16 Apr 2018 at 18:38
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/16/amd_ceo_f1/

Brundle and Su ... Not a particularly Zen moment

"Some of us love watching Formula One for the prangs and crashes – but we don't really expect them to happen before the race even begins.

Yet, that's the only way to describe a live TV interview at the Chinese Formula One Grand Prix on Sunday, which went embarrassingly wrong.

Former Formula One driver and Sky Sports telly presenter Martin Brundle was doing his usual walk down the starting grid before the race, interviewing drivers and teams along the way live in front of a camera crew. After running short of someone to chat to, he spotted someone who looked interesting.

"Excuse me ma'am, do you speak English?" Brundle asked.

However, he was unwittingly talking to Lisa Su, president and CEO of AMD, who speaks excellent English, thanks in part to gaining a masters and doctorate degrees in electrical engineering from MIT and 46 years living in the US.

You know, AMD. One of the sport's top sponsors.

"Yes, I do. I'm with AMD so we're sponsoring the Ferrari car," she responded. "Er, OK, yes," Brundle stuttered, before cutting back to the studio.

To be fair to Brundle, Su is probably recognizable only in the tech world, but as a massive backer of the sport it may have been prudent to check with someone who she was first. Su didn’t seem too put out by it, and Brundle finished his grid walk without any other cockups.

AMD is plowing tons of sponsorship money into the Formula One at the moment, and – although it's very early days in the season – Ferrari appear to have put it to good work, winning two out of the first three races.

The modern F1 car is basically a wheeled computer, with drivers changing engine modes and brake settings multiple times during a race or even a lap via the steering wheel. This is backed up by mini-data centers back in the pits analyzing every move – sometimes with disastrous results."

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AMD’s second-gen Ryzen CPUs are topping 5.8GHz when overclocked

Two of AMD's upcoming second-generation Ryzen processors have already been overclocked to 5.8GHz and beyond, a feat made even more impressive by the fact that all of the cores on each chip were enabled while it happened.

Extreme overclocker "TSAIK" achieved the feat on on AMD's Ryzen 7 2700X and Ryzen 5 2600X. Both had to be subjected to exotic cooling—liquid nitrogen, or LN2—in order to reach 5.8GHz and higher, so obviously running the new chips at that speed is not the least bit practical. We'll have to wait and see how they perform on air and traditional water cooling.

In the meantime, it's interesting to see the new processors approach 6GHz. The Ryzen 7 2700X performed a hair better than the Ryzen 5 2600X, reaching 5.884GHz with the core voltage set at 1.76V. That's impressive considering it has eight physical CPU cores. The 6-core/12-thread Ryzen 5 2600X hit 5.882GHz.
Extreme overclocker "TSAIK" achieved the feat on on AMD's Ryzen 7 2700X and Ryzen 5 2600X. Both had to be subjected to exotic cooling—liquid nitrogen, or LN2—in order to reach 5.8GHz and higher, so obviously running the new chips at that speed is not the least bit practical. We'll have to wait and see how they perform on air and traditional water cooling.

In the meantime, it's interesting to see the new processors approach 6GHz. The Ryzen 7 2700X performed a hair better than the Ryzen 5 2600X, reaching 5.884GHz with the core voltage set at 1.76V. That's impressive considering it has eight physical CPU cores. The 6-core/12-thread Ryzen 5 2600X hit 5.882GHz.

To put those results into perspective, the Ryzen 7 2700X has a maximum boost frequency of 4.3GHz via Extended Frequency Range 2 (XFR2), while the Ryzen 5 2600X tops out at 4.2GHz. Both of those maximum frequencies are in single-core mode.


The processors were plopped into an MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC motherboard along with a single 8GB G.Skill Tirdent Z DDR4 memory module.

 

Blunty was at the event, and here's some video of the LN2 cooling runs starting at about 2:45:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ga-polaris-gpus.799348/page-432#post-10712878

While an interesting curiosity, it's really of no use for 99.9999% of Ryzen 2.0 owners, as it's never going to be something normal people will use, and even in these examples no useful work can be done - it's not practical.

From last year's Ryzen 1.0 release:

Ryzen 7 1800X Overclocked to 5.8GHz Breaks Cinebench R15 World Record at 5.36GHz
by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 03/06/2017 10:22 AM
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ry...ks-cinebench-r15-world-record-at-5-36ghz.html

"During the Ryzen technology event, overclockers broke two frequency world records with the flagship Ryzen 7 1800X. I was actually there at that precise moment they reached the tweak.

Der8auer pushed the Ryzen 7 1800X to 5.8GHz on an insane voltage of 1.97v, and officially claimed the frequency world record on HWBot. Der8auer achieved this feat using the liquid nitrogen, with test bench featuring an Asus Crosshair VI Hero motherboard and 16GB of 2400MHz DDR4 CL11 memory.

The other Ryzen 7 frequency world record was achieved by the Swedish overclocker Elmor. He used LN2 to push his Ryzen 7 1800X to 5.36GHz on all 8 cores. The CPU scored 2454 points in the Cinebench R15’s multi-threaded test, breaking the previous world record by 9 points which was achieved with an Intel Core i7 5960X overclocked to 6GHz.

This is pretty impressive considering the fact that Ryzen 7 1800X is clocked at over 600MHz less than the i7 5960X, but it’s still able to outperform that latter. Not only this but the i7 5960X also has the advantage of featuring quad-channel DDDR4 memory compared to Ryzen’s dual channel.

I included some photos that I took just 10 minutes before they hit the WR."

Spoiler: Photo's

 

Ryzen 7 2700X Review - Part 1: Zen Vs Zen+ Vs Intel i7
4ghz + x370 (not x470), fixed OC - no XFR2(?), stability on Beta BIOS at issue.
Published on Apr 16, 2018
First part of the full review of the new Ryzen 7 2700X
PC Mark 10 - Firestrike - Gaming Performance - Overclocking


Ryzen 2700X and ASUS CH6, Bios update, boost, 24/7 overclock, stock cooler and CS:GO (Part 2)
Published on Apr 12, 2018
Part 2 of the testing session in preparation of the final review.
An update on the new CH6 bios, Clock Boost, 24/7 Overclocking settings, quick benchmark of the stock "Prism" cooler and a benchmark in CS:GO at Low Setting.
* There is an error in the video, I call the Stock cooler Spire instead of Prism, sorry.

Ryzen 2700X and ASUS CH6, Overclocking session and Gaming Benchmarks Preview (Part 1)
Published on Apr 7, 2018
After several issues with the memory I managed to make the 2700X with the Asus Crosshair VI, this is still a working progress to reach the limit of the CPU, but we're getting close !
Tested with Cinebenh R15, Aida, 3D Mark Firestrike, Tomb Raider and World of Warcraft. More video to follow. A full and detailed review is scheduled for next week, with old Ryzen and Intel comparison

Ryzen 2700X Is Here ! Preview of the Early Review (Retailer Shipped Early)
Published on Apr 5, 2018
Sorry for the audio and video setup, but this was really a last minute surprise !
A big thanks to LOLN1 for the the sample !
Tomorrow I'll do more tests !

 

AMD Ryzen 2 unboxings, Intel 8-core CPU, AMD Navi, Asus joining GPP with Arez and AMD Z490: TWTN

Published on Apr 17, 2018
A huge amount has happened in the tech world in the last week. There have been Ryzen 2 unboxings, there have been leaks around a potential Intel 8 core coffee lake CPU. Asus is joining nvidia GPP with the Arez line of GPU's for AMD. AMD Navi might be a $250 GPU with GTX 1080 performance. AMD might be copying Intel with a Z490 platform. 4k 144Hz monitors also show up.

Spoiler: Sources...

Sources:

AMD 2700x overclock: https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-ry...

AMD Z490: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/61576/...

Intel 8 core coffee lake CPU: https://www.kitguru.net/components/cp...

AMD Navi: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/61540/...

Asus AREZ: https://www.kitguru.net/components/gr...

4k 144hz monitors: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/61532/...

Intel new CPU story thing: http://www.hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/11...

NAND may be cheaper: https://www.kitguru.net/components/me...

Windows update delay: https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/damien...

AMD's beefed up Z490 chipset teased, has more PCIe lanes
AMD could unveil their new Z490 chipset that is a beefed up X470 chipset, sporting more PCIe lanes
By: Anthony Garreffa | Motherboards News | Posted: 1 day, 4 hours ago
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/61576/amds-beefed-up-z490-chipset-teased-more-pcie-lanes/index.html

"AMD is currently in the process of launching their new flagship X470 chipset with the Pinnacle Ridge-based Ryzen 2000 series processors, but now a mysterious Z490 chipset has been teased.

VideoCardz reports on a slide that was allegedly posted on the PCEva forums, where it shows a presentation of GIGABYTE's AORUS X470 motherboards, showing the differences between some of the chipsets and then the mysterious Z490 (not X490, but Z490) chipset.

The purported Z490 chipset is identical to the X470 chipset except that it rocks 4 additional PCIe 3.0 lanes, something that would be great for multi-GPU users who want PCIe lanes for precious graphics cards, and multiple super-fast NVMe M.2 SSDs that need PCIe lanes to drive their insane speeds.

If this turns out to be true, we'll report on it as it breaks. Interesting stuff, though."
NEWS SOURCES: Videocardz.com

 

HW News - AMD Going DDR5, HBM for CPUs, & 7nm Challenges

Published on Apr 17, 2018
For this week's hardware news episode, we cover some GN-exclusive items on AMD's DDR5 & HBM for CPU plans, but also talk fabrication process.
Show notes: https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3...
AMD is working on DDR5 memory, and is trying to beat Intel to the punch on DDR5. AMD is also working on near-memory for CPUs (HBM). Other news items include the RX500X being incredibly boring, challenges with the 7nm and 5nm process, FutureMark's name change to UL Benchmarks, security patches for Spectre and Meltdown, and more.

 

Radeon RX Graphics: A Gamer’s Choice
in 04/17/18 by Scott Herkelman
https://gaming.radeon.com/en/radeon-a-gamers-choice/

Spoiler: Long...

"Our proud pastime of PC gaming has been built on the idea of freedom. Freedom to choose. How to play the game. What to do and when to do it. And specifically, what to play it on. PC gaming has a long, proud tradition of choice. Whether you build and upgrade your own PCs, or order pre-built rigs after you’ve customized every detail online, you know that what you’re playing on is of your own making, based on your freedom to choose the components that you want. Freedom of choice is a staple of PC gaming.

Over the coming weeks, you can expect to see our add-in board partners launch new brands that carry an AMD Radeon product. AMD is pledging to reignite this freedom of choice when gamers choose an AMD Radeon RX graphics card. These brands will share the same values of openness, innovation, and inclusivity that most gamers take to heart. The freedom to tell others in the industry that they won’t be boxed in to choosing proprietary solutions that come bundled with “gamer taxes” just to enjoy great experiences they should rightfully have access to. The freedom to support a brand that actively works to advance the art and science of PC gaming while expanding its reach.

The key values that brands sporting AMD Radeon products will offer are:

• A dedication to open innovation – AMD works tirelessly to advance PC gaming through close collaboration with hardware standards bodies, API and game developers, making our technologies available to all to help further the industry. Through our collaboration with JEDEC on memory standards like HBM and HBM2, Microsoft on DirectX and Khronos on Vulkan, and through the GPUOpen initiative where we provide access to a comprehensive collection of visual effects, productivity tools, and other content at no cost, we’re enabling the industry to the benefit of gamers.

• A commitment to true transparency through industry standards – Through industry standards like AMD FreeSync technology, we’re providing the PC ecosystem with technologies that significantly enhance gamers’ experiences, enabling partners to adopt them at no cost to consumers, rather than penalizing gamers with proprietary technology “taxes” and limiting their choice in displays.

• Real partnerships with real consistency – We work closely with all our AIB partners, so that our customers are empowered with the best, high-performance, high quality gaming products and technologies available from AMD. No anti-gamer / anti-competitive strings attached.

• Expanding the PC gaming ecosystem – We create open and free game development technologies that enable the next generation of immersive gaming experiences across PC and console ecosystems. These efforts have resulted in advancements such as AMD FreeSync adoption on TVs for Xbox One S or X, integration of forward looking “Vega” architecture features and technologies into Far Cry 5 without penalizing the competition, and inclusion of open sourced AMD innovations into the Vulkan API which game developers can adopt freely.

We pledge to put premium, high-performance graphics cards in the hands of as many gamers as possible and give our partners the support they need without anti-competitive conditions. Through the support of our add-in-board partners that carry forward the AMD Radeon RX brand, we’re continuing to push the industry openly, transparently and without restrictions so that gamers have access to the best immersive technologies, APIs and experiences.

We believe that freedom of choice in PC gaming isn’t a privilege. It’s a right.

Scott Herkelman, Corporate Vice President & General Manager of Radeon Gaming at AMD. His postings are his own opinions and may not represent AMD’s positions, strategies, or opinions. Links to third party sites and references to third party trademarks are provided for convenience and illustrative purposes only. Unless explicitly stated, AMD is not responsible for the contents of such links, and no third party endorsement of AMD or any of its products is implied."

AMD: Our Add-in-Board partners will launch new brands for Radeon products
Published: 17th Apr 2018, 17:05 GMT
https://videocardz.com/75970/amd-ou...rs-will-launch-new-brands-for-radeon-products

"In a blog post at Radeon website, AMD is hitting back at GPP (GeForce Partner Program), which forces AIBs to create exclusive gaming series for GeForce products."

Spoiler: ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte to launch new brands

ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte to launch new brands

When we think about AMD board partners who produce both GeForce and Radeon products we always think of the big three: ASUS, MSI and Gigabyte. However, there are more manufacturers who will be affected by GPP, such as Maxsun, Biostar or Yeston. All those companies will be forced to distinguish GeForce and Radeon products with their separate brands.

This will create confusion and unhealthy competition since Radeon products were advertised with other names for years. That money is now partially lost. This will force board partners to spend more money on marketing to promote new products and new brand names.

The saddest part is that AIBs decided to follow all GPP guidelines by rename competitors products rather than NVIDIA’s. If this was the other way around, I don’t think we would consider as such an issue.

Radeon RX Graphics: A Gamer’s Choice by Scott Herkelman

Our proud pastime of PC gaming has been built on the idea of freedom. Freedom to choose. How to play the game. What to do and when to do it. And specifically, what to play it on. PC gaming has a long, proud tradition of choice. Whether you build and upgrade your own PCs, or order pre-built rigs after you’ve customized every detail online, you know that what you’re playing on is of your own making, based on your freedom to choose the components that you want. Freedom of choice is a staple of PC gaming.

Over the coming weeks, you can expect to see our add-in board partners launch new brands that carry an AMD Radeon product. AMD is pledging to reignite this freedom of choice when gamers choose an AMD Radeon RX graphics card. These brands will share the same values of openness, innovation, and inclusivity that most gamers take to heart. The freedom to tell others in the industry that they won’t be boxed in to choosing proprietary solutions that come bundled with “gamer taxes” just to enjoy great experiences they should rightfully have access to. The freedom to support a brand that actively works to advance the art and science of PC gaming while expanding its reach.

The key values that brands sporting AMD Radeon products will offer are:

• A dedication to open innovation – AMD works tirelessly to advance PC gaming through close collaboration with hardware standards bodies, API and game developers, making our technologies available to all to help further the industry. Through our collaboration with JEDEC on memory standards like HBM and HBM2, Microsoft on DirectX and Khronos on Vulkan, and through the GPUOpen initiative where we provide access to a comprehensive collection of visual effects, productivity tools, and other content at no cost, we’re enabling the industry to the benefit of gamers.

• A commitment to true transparency through industry standards – Through industry standards like AMD FreeSync technology, we’re providing the PC ecosystem with technologies that significantly enhance gamers’ experiences, enabling partners to adopt them at no cost to consumers, rather than penalizing gamers with proprietary technology “taxes” and limiting their choice in displays.

• Real partnerships with real consistency – We work closely with all our AIB partners, so that our customers are empowered with the best, high-performance, high quality gaming products and technologies available from AMD. No anti-gamer / anti-competitive strings attached.

• Expanding the PC gaming ecosystem – We create open and free game development technologies that enable the next generation of immersive gaming experiences across PC and console ecosystems. These efforts have resulted in advancements such as AMD FreeSync adoption on TVs for Xbox One S or X, integration of forward looking “Vega” architecture features and technologies into Far Cry 5 without penalizing the competition, and inclusion of open sourced AMD innovations into the Vulkan API which game developers can adopt freely.

We pledge to put premium, high-performance graphics cards in the hands of as many gamers as possible and give our partners the support they need without anti-competitive conditions. Through the support of our add-in-board partners that carry forward the AMD Radeon RX brand, we’re continuing to push the industry openly, transparently and without restrictions so that gamers have access to the best immersive technologies, APIs and experiences.

We believe that freedom of choice in PC gaming isn’t a privilege. It’s a right."
Source: Radeon.com

 

Ryzen 2000 Series 10% IPC Increase In Games + AMD Responds To Nvidia’s GPP!
Published on Apr 17, 2018
The Ryzen 2700X may have gotten a 10% IPC increase in games! Plus, AMD has fiery words for Nvidia


From the original Ryzen 2700x review video comments:

Gamer Meld 3 days ago
Just wanted to let you know that I'll be going over two slides from your graph in a video. With that said, I will post a link back to it in the description, as well as inform the users that I'm only using a small part of it to go over a few things and expand on what's said here.

Hardware Numb3rs 3 days ago
Non problem, as long as you report the source you can take everything you want and feel free to ask me more if you need

double tman13 3 days ago
Good Guy Gamer Meld.

Gamer Meld 3 days ago
Oh yeah, I always give a source. And I appreciate that! It's pretty awesome you were able to get your hands on one!

 

So this is weird...only clicking AREZ get's Asus AMD GPU's to show up on their site. And, if I click on AMD as an option, or RX 500 or RX Vega, nothing shows up, whether I have AREZ clicked or not.

AREZ Series Products
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/AREZ-Series-Products/
Update: that page is gone...and searching for Arez finds nothing there...

Asus Rebrands AMD Graphics Cards, 'Arez' For 'ROG'
by Derek Forrest April 17, 2018 at 12:40 PM
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-arez-radeon-graphics-cards-amd,36906.html

Spoiler: Details...

Asus announced that its entire lineup of AMD graphics cards has a brand-new identity, referring to the red-team GPU series as "Arez."

The Arez branding takes the place of the familiar Republic of Gamers (ROG) moniker that adorns several subsets of graphics cards, including the Dual, Strix, Phoenix, and Expedition series. The 28 new Arez cards don’t differ from the previously available Asus offerings, as each model seems to replace an existing ROG-branded card with an AMD GPU. The company essentially slapped a new name and logo on the box.

The new branding could be a sign that Asus has joined Nvidia’s GPP program, which reportedly forces participating OEMs to align their gaming brands exclusively with GeForce. With the ROG brand seemingly reserved for Nvidia GPUs, it’s hard to argue that the new Arez cards aren’t a direct result (and loophole) of such a potential partnership. We’ve seen other companies such as Gigabyte take similar steps with newer AMD-branded graphics card products (it dropped the Aorus branding from a RX 580-powered version of its Gaming Box external graphics enclosure), but Asus took things a step further and developed a whole new identity for its AMD graphics cards.

AMD itself just announced that several AIB partners would be debuting new brands of Radeon products (seemingly responding directly to Nvidia’s GPP program), and along with Asus’s new god of war-inspired Arez brand, it does feel like a familiar battle of sorts is raging between the Green and Red teams fighting for graphics card dominance."

 

My guess here is you have decided against your original thought of waiting for the embargo to lift before speculating on performance?

 

It's an actual owner of the Retail Production CPU, posting his personal results, first hand experience.

He was shipped the Retail Production CPU early, due to a retailer error.

It's not speculation, but his numbers are on x370 with a BETA Bios - which I put in my post and he also mentions several times.

 

Ok, what was the statements before about the person maybe only having one experience, methodologies not in place no other corroboration etc. etc. etc... Not that I am saying the data is wrong, I am still disappointed with the overclocking. I am just saying you so easily go against your own advice when it suits you. This is why I do not respect your opinion anymore. I could care less if the info supports my opinion or thoughts, in fact most times I would rather be wrong.

It is a video reporting on speculation of someone else's results, come on, you have to see the humor (irony) in this.

Edit; Oh yeah, pre-zero day release could be days or even weeks.

 

AMD Radeon™ Graphics: Freedom of Choice
Published on Apr 17, 2018
Imagine creation without freedom.
Selection without choice.
Progress without diversity.
Gamers live in a vibrant, inclusive and unique community.
Radeon™ graphics exists to preserve it.

Read Scott Herkelman’s blog on gaming.radeon.com, also in the post quoted above: https://gaming.radeon.com/en/radeon-a...

Also check out the posts about the GPP in the Nvidia thread, starting March 8th:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-thread.806608/page-21#post-10692438

Our Pledge to Reignite Freedom of Choice for AMD Radeon Gamers
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8cx9l6/our_pledge_to_reignite_freedom_of_choice_for_amd/

Okay gang, let's see who AREZ really is:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8d2bmv/okay_gang_lets_see_who_arez_really_is/

You don't like the manufacturer's logo on the Vega fan?. Here is how to get the Radeon "R".
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/70gxem/you_dont_like_the_manufacturers_logo_on_the_vega/

Spoiler

You don't like the GPP's logo on the Radeon card fan?. Here is how to get the pre-GPP logo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8d2fij/you_dont_like_the_gpps_logo_on_the_radeon_card/

Spoiler

 

AMD dominates the Top 10 most searched CPUs list on Geizhals - one of EU's largest price comparison portals

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8d3yj7/amd_dominates_the_top_10_most_searched_cpus_list/

T1beriu[ S] 6 hours ago*
Screenshot that proves the image comes from www.Geizhals.eu
Direct link to the Top 10 most searched CPUs.
Who is Geizhals? Geizhals had 2.6 million unique visitors in April 2017 and operates in Austria, Germany, UK and Poland.

tl;dr People are more interested in buying AMD's CPUs by a big margin.

 

Talking X470 Motherboards and 2nd Gen RYZEN CPU's
MSI Gaming
Streaming has now Ended, Replay starts at about 09:00
We have an exclusive Q&A session with one of @amd RYZEN masters; James Prior. Learn all about the new @msi X470 motherboards and the powerful 2nd Gen RYZEN 7 processors.

 

LIVE - Zen+ Launch: Ryzen 7 2700X, Ryzen 5 2600X Are here!
Level1Techs
Started streaming 1 minute ago
https://level1techs.com/ryzen-zen-plu...


AMD R7 2700(X) Review: Memory Overclocking, Voltage, Streaming
Gamers Nexus
Published on Apr 19, 2018
Our benchmark and review of the AMD R7 2700 and R7 2700X focuses most on game streaming (for Twitch/YouTube) and multitasking, with gaming benchmarks also included.

AMD Ryzen 2600X 2700X Gen 2 Review and Overclocking
OC3D TV
Published on Apr 19, 2018
https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_m...

AMD 2700X & 2600X Benchmarks vs 8700K, 1800X & 1600X! RYZEN 2 LAUNCH
Paul's Hardware
Published on Apr 19, 2018

Ryzen 7 2700X vs 1700X - Worth the Upgrade?
HardwareCanucks
Published on Apr 19, 2018
Ryzen 2nd gen is finally here, but is it worth the upgrade for existing Ryzen 17[8]00X owners? Eber goes into the full details with gaming and Adobe experience to see how the new 2700X performs. Enjoy

AMD Borrows Intel’s Business Plan – Ryzen 2 Review
Linus Tech Tips
Published on Apr 19, 2018
AMD made waves last year with Ryzen, but is second-generation Ryzen another giant leap forward, or just a refresh until Zen 2?

Does the Ryzen 7 1700 work better with x470?!
Timmy Joe PC Tech
Published on Apr 19, 2018
While I wait for Ryzen 2 I decided to test my Gigabyte Aorus Gaming Wifi x470 motherboard with my Ryzen 7 1700 to see if it overclocks better than the x370 chipset. Stay tuned for HUGE Ryzen 2 coverage.... as soon as my retail sample comes

Wow, 2nd Ryzen AMD product launch failure video in a Row, Gotta Love Jay

We tried to test AMD Ryzen 2nd Generation... but my luck strikes again
JayzTwoCents
Published on Apr 19, 2018
AMD's Ryzen 2nd Generation is here! But out testing didn't go as planned... which really sucks because I am really looking forward to testing this new CPU! AMD is really hammering Intel on the "Value" and disrupting the CPU market which is a good thing!

More Ryzen 2.0 review video's here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ga-polaris-gpus.799348/page-435#post-10714512
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ga-polaris-gpus.799348/page-434#post-10714477

 

AMD Ryzen 2700X at 4.2Ghz getting smoked by even the i5 8400 in games.

4.2Ghz all core was "difficult" at an very high 1.4v all that from a for sure cherry picked AMD reviewer chip.

 

It's always nice to have a true AMD fan posting, thanks for joining us. Happy to see you are ready to drop your Intel 8700K for a real CPU, AMD FTW!!

 

RashadQuickTech update here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ga-polaris-gpus.799348/page-437#post-10714696

Ryzen R7 2700x Gaming Benchmarks (OC 4.6Ghz)
RashadQuickTech
Published on Apr 18, 2018
System specification:
32gb ram @2666mhz
Gtx 1080
500 evo ssd


Ryzen 2700 vs 1700 Gaming Benchmarks (OC 4.4Ghz)
RashadQuickTech
Published on Apr 18, 2018
Benchmark @ 1:15
System specification:
32gb ram @2666mhz
Gtx 1080
500 evo ssd

Ryzen 7 [email protected] Cinebench R15
Sebastian Klüsener
Published on Apr 18, 2018
Ryzen 7 2700X 4,2GHz AllCore
ASUS Crosshair VI Hero
16GB DDR4 3200-CL14
Radeon ReLive seems to chop off some points when recording.

Ryzen 7 2700X stock Cinebench R15
Sebastian Klüsener
Published on Apr 18, 2018
Specs:
Ryzen 7 2700X stock
ASUS Crosshair VI Hero
16GB DDR4 3200-CL14
Radeon ReLive seems to chop off some points when recording. Without screen record its more like 1750 score.

GTX 1080Ti | R5 2600X vs I5 8600K | Comparison |
For Gamers
Published on Apr 19, 2018

GTX 1080TI | R7 2700X vs I7 8700K | Comparison |
For Gamers
Published on Apr 18, 2018

More Ryzen 2.0 video's here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ga-polaris-gpus.799348/page-435#post-10714512
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ga-polaris-gpus.799348/page-434#post-10714191

 

4.6 GHz, the guy is lying, go to his YT listing of the video. 4.2 seems to be what people are getting on all cores, as I said extremely disappointing (I hate to be right).

 

2nd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Desktop Processors
AMD
Published on Apr 19, 2018
Introducing the 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen™ desktop processors designed for extreme gaming. With incredible performance and more advanced features, 2nd Generation AMD Ryzen™ desktop processors provide faster, smoother gaming experiences than you thought possible. Designed for gamers, streamers and enthusiasts that demand more.

2nd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Processors: Unboxing
AMD
Published on Apr 19, 2018
Join James and Robert as they unbox the new 2nd Generation AMD Ryzen™ Desktop Processors and highlight new features and benefits.
Learn more: www.amd.com/ryzen

 

wait what?! 4.6 ghz oc? thats not bad at all! wondering what kinda voltage they used for that...

edit: 1.46v according to his comments

Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk

 

RashadQuickTech 's first video was at 4.4ghz, and he does some audio commentary, the 2nd one @ 4.6ghz was mostly results . It will be interesting to see how he follows up. Refresh the page, I added that 4.4ghz video to the post, along with a link to his channel.

I think a lot of the mainstream 1st release reviewers will mostly stick to the script, and not do hardcore OC'ing - at least initially, so we are going to have to wait for dedicated OC'ers to spring up with results over time.

I am waiting for the follow up from Hardware Numb3rs and his 2nd Part of his Review video, he was @ 4.3ghz on BETA BIOS x370, and he is getting an x470. He seems competent enough to get what he can from the new Ryzen 2.0 CPU's.

 

Dude why are you posting total BS, 4.4 and 4.6Ghz are not real overclocks or realistic results. Guess what I can make a video stating a 6.0Ghz overclock and then making up some BS graphs to go along with it. Show me a single legit reviewer that was gonig above 4.2Ghz all cores. Most reviewers are showing 4.2Ghz around 1.4v-1.5v and topping out and hitting a wall.

 

Well obviously someone here wants Ryzen+ to be shown in a much better light and is linking BS fake videos.

Bottom line is AMD has overclocked these chips to almost near max overclock capability which leaves nothing in the tank for enthusiast fun. Moreover it presents a false representation of real life performance of the 8700K vs Ryzen+. Had Intel done the same thing and overclocked the 8700K to 4.8-5.0Ghz (yes it can go higher) out of box then it would paint and even worse picture for Ryzen, and also leave zero fun for the end user.

 

There's no need to get riled up. These are posts from people that have put in supporting info, and lets just watch and see what others do.

Right now the mainstream review guys aren't going to get any best results, they aren't OC'ers - they hardly even push their hardware given past results.

It's going to take people with experience to get highest results, and it could come from unknowns and be few and far between. And, occasionally there will be golden CPU's out there, just like Willy Wonka. For now just enjoy the show.

You Intel fanboy's can always quote the mainstream results to prove your points, no need to start thread dumping over it, please stop before it gets out of hand.

You don't need more than one post to complain.

 

Agreed on the Intel fan boy's, Intel will most likely be pressing into the overclock headroom with the intro of 7nm so lets not go there yet. I just do not believe 4.6, I want to though. 4.4 Under water would be great, as far as what is an extreme vcore for the 12nm, we have to wait and see.

 

AMD X470 Pinnacle Ridge: RYZEN 7 2700X at 6000 MHz on Crosshair VII Hero (en) (4.3ghz on air)
der8auer
Published on Apr 19, 2018



Ryzen 7 2700X vs. 1700X vs. i7 8700K | Value Reigns Supreme!
Science Studio
Published on Apr 19, 2018
AMD's latest Ryzen revision - dubbed Pinnacle Ridge - relies on a 12nm process and much of Gen 1's internal architecture. The 2700X boasts additional overclocking headroom, a marginal IPC jump, and the same thermal efficiency as before. But how well does it game? How about content creation? Here's why the R7 2700X is a new value king!

Zen+ SHOOT-OUT - Ryzen 5 2600X vs Ryzen 7 2700X - FOR STREAMERS
Blunty
Published on Apr 19, 2018
Which CPU is best for Twitch Streaming, or live streaming gaming in general? Blunty compares the NEW Zen+ second gen Ryzen 5 2600X & Ryzen 7 2700X CPU’s head to head, to find out where the best value is.

2nd Gen Ryzen 7 2700X: Reviewed and benchmarked!
PCWorldVideos
Published on Apr 19, 2018
AMD's 2nd generation Ryzen chips are an improvement on 1st gen Ryzen, and close the door on Core i7! In this video Gordon Mah Ung runs through his thoughts after testing it against a Intel Core i7-8700K and Ryzen 7 1700X in both gaming and rendering benchmarks.

2nd-gen Ryzen Q&A with AMD SVP Jim Anderson | The Full Nerd Ep. 47
PCWorldVideos
Published on Apr 19, 2018
Join The Full Nerd gang as they talk about the latest PC hardware topics. In this special episode we are joined by the computing boss at AMD Jim Anderson to go over the launch of 2nd Gen Ryzen CPUs. Questions range from high level to in the weeds, thanks to Jim for stopping by to chat!

R7 2700X - AMD GOES BIG! Gaming, Rendering & Encoding
Optimum Tech
Published on Apr 19, 2018
How does AMD's new Ryzen 2700X stack up in benchmarks against Intel's i7 8700K and other CPUs? Short answer - very well!

Ryzen 7 2700X vs Core i7-8700K Mega-Tasking Demo by AMD
Tech ARP
Published on Apr 19, 2018
The Core i7-8700K on the left, took 42.1 seconds to complete the mega-tasking demo, while the Ryzen 7 2700X on the right, took 42.6 seconds. Read more @ https://www.techarp.com/events/2nd-ge...

Ryzen 7 2700X vs Core i7-8700K CINEBENCH R15 Demo by AMD
Tech ARP
Published on Apr 19, 2018
The Core i7-8700K on the left, had a score of 1399 cb, while the Ryzen 7 2700X on the right, achieved 1544 cb. Read more @ https://www.techarp.com/events/2nd-ge...

AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Review
goldfries
Published on Apr 19, 2018
Retailing at RM 1,559 (USD $329) - the Ryzen 7 2700X is a step up from the previous flagship Ryzen 7 1800X. What's best about the Ryzen 7 2700X is is that the price is far lower than that of the Ryzen 7 1800X when it was launched and it comes with one awesome cooler.

More Ryzen 2.0 review video's here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ga-polaris-gpus.799348/page-434#post-10714191
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ga-polaris-gpus.799348/page-434#post-10714477

 

Even he needed 1.5 for 4.3 and recommends for the core to stay within 1.3 to 1.4 max for vcore.

 

Check his clock / voltage / score chart I added to his video's post (refresh page), 4.3ghz was done at 1.425v...higher voltages were tried, but drew more power - a good example why "undervolting" or voltage tuning is important, you may be stable at a particular clock and voltage but try reducing voltage to get the best efficiency.

Here is the chart again for your convenience:

4.3ghz as top OC is nice enough an upgrade for Ryzen 1.0 owners stuck at 3.8-3.9ghz, given expertise and patience most everyone should have a nice OC experience with the Ryzen 2700x, only time will tell as owners get Retail boxed CPU's and report their results what the spread of top OC is in the field.

Watching for the other SKU's top OC's...

And, don't forget, BIOS updates forthcoming for x370 and new x470, hopefully getting better memory OC's moving forward, and better performance overall.

 

Would also mean a potential 4.0Ghz for the laptop users with the 1700 (pending of course they get a BIOS update to support it)

 

According to der8auer's 2700x clock vs power chart it is 98w @ 4.0ghz.. what is the 1700 in the Asus laptop drawing now?

Did you compare power draw @ clock rate difference between 1700 and 2700x/2700 to find crossover for laptop cooling support vs. clock rate on der8auer's chart for power draw at clock speed?