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    About SSDs!

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Vlad-San, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. Vlad-San

    Vlad-San Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey all i was wondering if i will buy a SSD which one?I was thinking at this OCZ Agility 3 Series 60GB SATA-III 2.5 inch SSD - PC Garage Yes,i know that's only 60 gb but this is my budget.Please link me SSD's lower than 80 E.And about the SSD from upper the price is like 78 E. With respect,Vlad
     
  2. tilleroftheearth

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    With respect, your budget is not sufficient to purchase any SSD if you can only consider ~60GB capacity models.

    Not sufficient, that is, to enjoy the SSD experience (over a Hybrid HDD) on a continual basis - especially if you want/need to fill it anywhere near it's capacity.

    In your situation I would consider the Seagate Momentous Hybrid 500GB or 750GB models (750GB highly recommended because of higher capacity caching SSD - 4GB vs. 8GB in the 750GB model).

    Good luck.
     
  3. maverick1989

    maverick1989 Notebook Deity

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    Tiller is correct. I would either purchase a HDD hybrid or wait until either my budget is higher or the SSDs drop in price (which, at the current rate, would be another year or so).
     
  4. Vlad-San

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    what a hybrid HDD means?
     
  5. Vlad-San

    Vlad-San Notebook Enthusiast

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    yea,i didn't mentioned that my PC is a Laptop
     
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    Vlad-San Notebook Enthusiast

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    My pc is actually a laptop
     
  8. Vlad-San

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    sry for reply
     
  9. Vlad-San

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    It has the same speed of an SSD?
     
  10. Jarhead

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    For some things, yes. The SSD cache will accelerate the programs/files you regularly use (Windows, internet browser, Office, whatever) and make it feel like you're using a SSD (but you still have 500GB or 750GB of storage, depending on which one you get). For rarely-used stuff, you'll be stuck at HDD speeds.

    Honestly, at your budget, this is your best bet. The only way I'd recommend the <80GB SSD is if all you want is Windows, a program or two, and barely any data. If you're just using the laptop as an internet machine, that might be fine, but anything more will fill up a small SSD quickly and performance will drop like a rock.
     
  11. Vlad-San

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    yea,i saw a video,there is no comparision from Hybrid to SSD
     
  12. Vlad-San

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    So i am gonna buy an 80 GB SSD?
     
  13. Vlad-San

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    You know,i will buy an SSD Bay in the place of the DVD-R and after i will buy an external DVD-R
     
  14. Vlad-San

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    So the HDD space is not a problem
     
  15. Jarhead

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    If you want to keep storage space, have an SSD, and don't care for having an optical drive, get a HDD caddy for your laptop and remove the disc drive. Move the HDD to the optical bay and move the SSD to the primary HDD bay.

    However, do **not** buy an OCZ SSD. They're crap, the company has terrible customer support, and they make the most unreliable SSDs on the market today (and yesterday). Once a SSD dies, you can't get data off of it and it's just a paperweight. If you can find any SSDs from Crucial, Samsung, Intel, or Plextor on sale, I'd recommend that instead.
     
  16. Vlad-San

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    I sayed that i will buy and external optical drive.And about that,to move the ssd to primary bay,why?
     
  17. Vlad-San

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    About this SSD? Corsair Force GT ??Tell me your opinion!
     
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    The primary HDD bay will likely be a SATAIII port, and the optical bay is almost always SATAII (slower).

    As for external optical drives, I have a Samsung one and it works great. On Amazon for about $30.

    Corsair is a good company, and the Force GT is a popular drive on Newegg. It uses the same controller as my Intel 330 (Sandforce SF-2281) and so far I haven't had any problems with it.
     
  19. Vlad-San

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    So better buy Intel?
     
  20. Vlad-San

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    Then,help me to find an Intel SSD,but not expensive from 0 to 100 GBs
     
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    I've written about Intel's latest drive and as for the current-gen SSDs, I'd say "maybe". If you do, wait until it's on sale again.

     
  22. Vlad-San

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    Intel Solid State Drive (SSD) 330 Series, 60GB, SATA 3, 2.5'' Founded one!
     
  23. baii

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    SSD purchase varies depends on what country/region you are in, Price vary ALOT.

    If you mean 80 euro, i think that should be enough for 90 or 120 gb.

    Depending on usage, 60gb-64GB is fine for OS and some software/game if you know what you are doing.
    Don't brother with a hybrid, just not worth it unless you can only have 1drive installed.
     
  24. Vlad-San

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    Yea,but I am just asking for the best in quality-price.

    Then help me',Amigos. :D
     
  25. tilleroftheearth

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    You're missing the point:

    Small capacity SSD's do not perform anywhere near a fully populated SSD like a 256GB sized one will.

    Also, filling SSD's past 50% can drop your effective 'experience' to below HDD levels.

    With a 256GB (or higher) SSD, not only do you start at a much higher performance level - it is also much easier to stay at that level by partitioning the SSD to use less than the full capacity (do this when you first buy it...).



    And STOP posting multiple replies to the same post(s)!!!
     
  26. Vlad-San

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    Yea i know,but i will put on it only the Windows maybe Lineage II and IE
     
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    I use to think that these half-baked solutions were just that (and posted on NBR as such), but I've played around with a notebook with a HDD + mSATA cache option and drive performance was subjectively on par with my 320 and 330 on my personal notebook. The current-gen hybrid HDDs should perform similarly to the mSATA cache systems and is a viable budget option if you need more than 120GB of storage and don't want to do a DIY dual-drive setup.
     
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    So the solution?
     
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    Right now my 330 is at 50% and there's no difference. Had my 320 about 80% filled for awhile before buying the second SSD and it performed just fine. Maybe you're talking about SSDs with asynchronous NAND?
     
  30. tijo

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    It also depends on the load you put on the SSD. I remember from a while ago that tillerroftheearth does use his drives rather extensively which has an impact on performance for him that won't be felt by most normal users. For normal usage though, 70% full is fine, there is a performance decrease seen in benchmarks, but nothing too dramatic in terms of perceived speed.
     
  31. baii

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    8GB nand vs 32(min) msata is 2 different story.

    On to filling drives, personally I am using a 64GB c300, benchmark decline is not as crazy as often suggested at 75+% fill.

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    4K is ugly compare to review using desktop but my bench with just windows installed is around the same ballpark. Also did a 2x500mb
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    People stop benching ssd with 5x 1GB, it is pointless...

    On big drive vs small, the main difference is sequential write, unless you writing from SSD to SSD everyday, I doubt it matters for average users.

    Almost 3 years old drive (maybe more ~~) iirc
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