Absolute best Thermal Compound

If you think the contact is perfect then you should use Kryonaut/Phobya Nanogrease Extreme/Liquid metal Grizzly or CLU

 

This. Most of the oh-so-wonderfull and hell expensive compounds just harden and than all it takes is to move with the heatsink so it breaks and looses almost all heat conductivity.

I've never seen Arctic Silver 5 hardened yet. Not that it is easy to apply it, but once you do, it lasts long. Plus the conductivity is good and it is not so expensive.

For normal use I have some chinese paste directly from the manufacturer, silicone-based yet with quite good conductivity (at least accordig to the spec), the price is very good so I use that for "the average-Joe's stuff".

 

I have boiled out Artic5, when it doesn't dry out though that is a risk. Only two I have never had boil out where ICD and liquid metal.

 

Duly noted.

I was able to grab the 3.5g tube as I transition away from the beloved MX-2 and MX-4.

 

Heh, explains why Azor's current breed of Alienturds and recent thin n' light Clevos offer this as an option when bought from a reseller.

 

Which paste did you grab? gelid GC or Phobya?

 

Phobya.

 

Beloved MX-2 and MX-4 ? Useful if you want to check the pressure-fit (the imprint) from Heatsink on die/IHS. Not for regular use.

Overall is ICD a good paste. Whatever you use it on. But a must if the heatsink is not the best. Especially if you think about longeivity + (less pump out).

 

Hey, I've stuck with MX-2 and MX-4 for years. That stuff may be far from the best but damn is it long lasting.
A paste and forget affair.

 

Not for older oc'd Xtreme Mobile processors or unlocked LGA on laptops today. In desktop or locked/partial locked down Mobile processors is another matter.

Edit... http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-1363#post-10591071

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-1364#post-10591077 Click the link in my posts For both.

 

With what I'm reading about Phobya, that's what I'll be sticking with in the long term as far as laptops are concerned.

ICD7 is all well and good, but I'm not willing to bite the bullet on the possibility of abrading the dies on removal.

 

Only cosmetics marks (the chips <die> will not Die or perform worse) and the end result will not be as bad as you think with proper clean-up.

 

Hmm.

Something to keep in mind.

 

My personal opinion: liquid ultra, because the extra thermal conductivity of conductonaut will mean zilch in a tiny capacity like a laptop, and liquid ultra is infinitely easier to handle/apply.

 

Based on my experience, I'd say Conductonaut is much better these days, if only because CLU's quality has gone down the drain. I recently bought several packs of CLU on Amazon, and they're nothing like my first tube from 2014, which I directly compared against. The new CLU is much more runny, like Conductonaut, if not moreso. And it has awful consistency. The color was non-uniform and there were little specks of like dried metal shavings mixed within, which was apparent when I spread the CLU out. This was consistent in all 3 packs of CLU I bought, which tells me Coollaboratory changed their formula somewhere down the line and are neglecting quality control. Not to mention, one of the packs was basically wasted since most of the tiny amount in the syringe had leaked out during shipment.

 

I personally use and like MX-4 but since i am pretty new at building computers i do know a lot about what i needs i also like IC Diamond 7 CARAT too..

 

My wife bought me MX-4 to go with my new laptop close to a year ago now and I never got around to repasting my 7577 because of life and all that stuff. I don't want to hurt her feelings by not using it though, lol. I have noticed my stock Dell thermal paste is starting to lose some performance after less than 1 year of (what I consider) light usage (compared to most users here). The MX-4 has got to be better than stock Dell paste I'm sure. I figure once I document my repaste procedure the first time, it probably won't be long until I'm back in there tweaking and upgrading bits and pieces again even sooner now that I'm a bit more settled and working again.

 

Better to use gelid. Here's the list though:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nd-apply-traditional-and-liquid-metal.806840/

 

I know, that's what I wanted but at least she tried, that's what counts.

 

@Mr. Fox and those who used phobya nanogrease extreme. How's the longevity of the paste? Thanks..

 

I have the older P751DM2-G running with it for the last 8 months or so after upgrading the heatsink and its' held up fine despite heavy daily use. No noticeable degradation so far.

 

Thanks for the info.. Will be repasting my cousins alienware 15 r3 t
next month.. getting more info before doing the job..

 

Wishing you the very best.
Here's what you should be looking for: https://www.amazon.com/Phobya-31103-NanoGrease-Extreme-3-5g/dp/B00EUREJZG
Avoid the so-called "HeGrease" variant as its' inconsistent, It can be a hit and miss based on the batch you get.

 

Thanks again. Actually when you first had a conversation with Mr. Fox about Phobya nano extreme and Mr fox said its a go. I bought it right away. Just did not have a chance to test it. I was using gelid for 2 years without any issues. I just repasted and changed it to Kyronaut as most people said it was better and for my curiousity. Apparently not. LOL. My current Kyronaut which is less than a year has degraded in performance already. So i'll be repasting my laptop and my cousins laptop with phobya nano extreme. ^_^

 

Kryonaut's packaging is a bit deceptive, IMHO.
Early last year, while fixing up my older GS43VR 6RE, I received a tube of Kryonaut that only lasted one or two applications. Felt screwed considering there was an older SFF I wanted to repaste. Lesson learned, I suppose. Had to wait a week or so later to receive the Phoyba Nanogrease. That experience taught me to order thermal paste in pairs, and now I have over 6 tubes of Phoyba, sealed, good as new. Excessive, but a worthwhile safety net should a repaste be needed.

 

Cant seem to find any vendor for EU outside germany without stupid shipping fees..

 

IMO the best paste is: Kryonaut
IMO the best LM is: CLU
IMO the best for longevity is: GP

 

GP?

 

pads

 

I thought it was Guinea Pig.

 

Lol, no it’s “graphite pad”. The best solution for long term cooling

 

Agreed on all fronts but given this is a laptop forum and expand on that by saying:

Balanced: Shin-Etsu
Low Pressure: LM Conductonaut/CLU
High Pressure: PGS Graphite Pad
Long Term Use: PGS Graphite Pad

 

Kryonaut is a awful paste if you have a warped/uneven heatsink. Or just bad fits.

And who say CLU is the best liquid metal? Long time since Liquid Ultra was the best. Even Silicon Lottery switched to Conductonaut a couple of years ago.

 

They work great for me. Hence the "IMO".

 

I get that it is a laptop forum. I tried to keep it short and concise. I tried to keep it as general as possible

 

Has anyone tried Thermalright TFX ?

 

Hello fellas, very instructive thread!

I'm researching the best fire and forget one to repaste relatives and friend's laptops, so that means the paste with the least amount of pump out effect on laptop heatsinks so the paste can last upwards of 3 years minimum.

So far IC Diamond 7/24 seems to be the one with best longevity according to this thread, but scratches the CPU/GPU dies and has a thermal conductivity of only 4.5 W/mK. What about the Phobya NanoGrease Extreme, does it scratch/corrode the CPU dies ? I see it has much better thermal conductivity and similar viscosity to IC Diamond but what about the pump out effect, could it last upwards of 3 years and become a contender for most enduring paste?

 

ICD is really good for laptop which I can really recommend for laptop like alienware with uneven core temps due to tripod heatsink. For Phobya NanoGrease Extreme, it doesn't have the same viscosity of ICD as far as I used it. Phobya NanoGrease Extreme is more the same as gelid but slightly thicker paste. From experience I still would go for gelid as the difference between them is only 1 to 2 degrees celcius and it last long. To be fair with Phobya NanoGrease Extreme I dont have experience of its longevity. Hope this helps.

 

Oh I will give this a shot. For Liquid metal, its conductonaut that performs the best. Not sure about longevity with it, so I assume thats where Coollaboratory Liquid pro may win.

For the paste, that goes to either Kyronaut or nanogrease extreme. You cant go wrong with either, but nanogrease is probably best because its thicker and does as good as ICD's famous thickness. Its worth noting that ICD and phobyas nanogrease are all rebrands of the same company that makes them, and that company is JunPus. JunPus's top paste is DX1, and that is more then likely nanogrease extreme. Kyronaut needs cure time.

 

From what I've gathered from a couple of threads here, Kyronaut is the best performing thermal paste but suffers the worst from the pump out effect and has one of the worst longevity, having to reapply it every couple of months. So no what i'm looking for considering it's for repasting secondary systems and relatives/friends, not even looking to repaste on yearly basis either.
Phobya NanoGrease Extreme is the new kid on the block and looks promising if it has little pump out effect.

But I think I'm gonna go with Cooler Master Mastergel Maker, apparently same composition as IC Diamond but finer diamond particles thus less abrasive on the dies, so pump out effect should be as close to IC Diamond's record lows.

 

I tried both Mastergel Maker and Gelid Extreme on my machine. Gelid gave me 3-4°C lower temps at idle and about the same at load compared to Mastergel.

 

On ICD7 abrasiveness:

If you attempt to scrub off the paste manually, yeah it will scratch the surface it is on. But doing so is dumb. I like to use a coffee filter with 92% isop alcohol, and let the solvent do the hard work for me. If the paste is being difficult because it dried out, a dab of Goof Off will take it right off. Just rewash the surface with alcohol to remove potential residue.

I haven't scratched up a die surface with ICD7/24 doing it this way.

As for longevity, my Asus G73JH repaste outlasted the laptop (almost 6 years) My current 1710 was also repasted with ICD7, and is almost 2 years old. In both cases, thermals never degraded.

 

What's Goof off!? Is it same as Articlean?

 

To be honest i'm not even that careful, and i've never scratched a die with it either. I think you'd have to really rub it hard to actually cause any permanent marks.

I can vouch for the longevity of ICD7 too, i've never seen any degraded thermals with it even on poorly fitting heatsinks - unlike Kryonaut.

 

Probably https://goofoffproducts.com/products/

The best one. But I don't think you find it nowadays - Indigo Xtreme Clean™ Thermal Surface Cleaner http://www.indigo-xtreme.com/page-bba.shtml

 

I don't think they're available in India.

 

For me the best its ShinEtsu 7921, best paste for notebooks/low pressure heatsinks

 

I recently tested Noctua NT-H2 and TG Kryonaut on Clevo P775TM1. Between two brands difference is 0.5°C -1°C at best. Tested at 22°C ambient temp.

I have a habit of applying too much paste and I never found that a issue. Excess amount squeeze out anyway.

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I want to bump this thread because I have recently tried repasting my new Dell G7 with various pastes. I did not do much screenshots, but let's just say that both MX-4 and Coolermaster Mastergel Maker are absolutely not suitable for laptop applications. After several tries they were giving me very uneven core temps and were perhaps a few degrees better than stock. Best result was with Gelid GC Extreme. It is a high viscosity paste but not as awful as IC Diamond so it is still easy to spread.

Just a couple of screenshots using Prime95 Small FFT test. One of them is using Coolermaster Mastergel Maker Nano paste (it was properly applied - after I removed heatsink there was a little bit of excessive paste squeezed out on every side):



The other is Gelid GC Extreme, applied same way:



So yea, I think I'll stick to using Gelid GC Extreme for all laptops for now ;-)

 

I remember having same temps with Maker Gel and it stabilised to under 80C and with minor undervolt it was under 65C. maker gel needs more curing time according to me.