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    Acer Aspire 5920 vs Asus G1S

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by orion95, May 13, 2007.

  1. orion95

    orion95 Notebook Consultant

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    Which one of the two has the upper hand?
     
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    _radditz_ Fallen to the Sith...

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    Asus will top this one easily on pretty much every comparison.
     
  3. orion95

    orion95 Notebook Consultant

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    Except for the cost factor which catapults aspire, I read somewhere in the forums that aspire starts from $1600 which would pretty much kill the competition with both having almost identical specs.
     
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    _radditz_ Fallen to the Sith...

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    If that was really the case then all the other manufacturers would have gone bust. Clearly that is not true.

    As the poll will suggest, with other brands and specifically Asus you pay for quality and that is reflected in the price. Remember, you get what you pay for.
     
  5. FREN

    FREN Hi, I'm a PC. NBR Reviewer

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    In a comparison between gaming computers in the 15.4" or lower category, the Asus G1S wins hands-down.
     
  6. mujtaba

    mujtaba ZzzZzz Super Moderator

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    With the exception of the weight, 3.1KG is way too heavy for many users.
     
  7. Vaath

    Vaath Notebook Deity

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    ASUS all the way, the only way i'd touch ACER is if it was free......then i'd resell and buy another ASUS :)
     
  8. conejeitor

    conejeitor Notebook Evangelist

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    I wouldn't get an Acer, but this one seems to have a GeForce 8600-GT?
     
  9. link1313

    link1313 Notebook Virtuoso

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    This acer was quite nice I was very impressed; BMW design. Its like a more stylish G1s with same graphics power for almost 2/3 the price.

    everyone read this and just said "OMG G1 !!!!!11!1!11!!!!!". Acer Gemstone 5920 gets my vote. Nothing impressed me with the G1s; they somehow thought santa rosa + 8600 justified a $350 price increase.

    edit: wow im the only one who voted acer somehow =/ (19-1)
     
  10. conejeitor

    conejeitor Notebook Evangelist

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    that's because Asus is Asus, and Acer is only Acer :)
     
  11. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    Ya its such a large investment I would wait until people actually own one.

    We dont know who makes the acer it might be different from the last line of aspires.
    The last line of aspires was pretty cheap and hot and lots of bad things. Definitely find out the lcd used because the cmo screen on the g1 costs 100$ wholesale more than the one they use on the f3j

    All things considered if you need to buy in the dark get the asus.

    Go ahead and use nbr as a non scientific poll. Theres like 10 times the asus owners here as acer owners. Go ahead and do a search for my acer is overheating, and do a search for my asus is overheating.

    You have to deal with a larger defect rate with an acer thats worth at least 200$ all things being equal
     
  12. link1313

    link1313 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Its not an aspire its a gemstone, w/e that means but yea probably in between aspire and ferrari :)
     
  13. min2209

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    Gemstone is the name of the design, the line is still called Aspire. The Ferrari costs almost twice as much. Not a fair comparison..
     
  14. AlexOnFyre

    AlexOnFyre Needs to get back to work NBR Reviewer

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    The ferrari is also only comparable to the similarly specced (and branded) VX2 Lambo. In my opinion Asus wins both, G1S hands-down, Lambo...personal preference I guess.
     
  15. lunateck

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    As i have lost my belief in Acer, Asus is the only choice in the poll...
     
  16. Michadeon

    Michadeon Notebook Guru

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    The Acer looks way better than the Asus IMHO, and if the price is indeed $1600... BTW, in the Acer Website they mention that the GPU can have up to 512MB dedicated ram. If they produce such a gemstone, G1S has lost the game.
     
  17. lunateck

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    Even a 8400M GT with 2048mb vram (which doesnt exist at all) will have a hardtime beating a 8600M GT with only 128mb vram.. same applies to the 8600M GS...
     
  18. min2209

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    Advertisers really drummed it into people's heads over the years that more memory = more performance. TurboCache and HyperMemory are often entirely unnecessary especially on low end and mid range cards. There are even people thinking that a 256mb 7900GS is better than a 512mb 7300 with TurboCache. After all, if you look at Dell's advertising, the E1505 has this wonderful 512mb card (that's like one of the biggest memory sizes out there!!) with HyperMemory... namely the x1400. To be honest, I doubt the x1400 could even use the 128mb or whatever it has to start with.
    Also, it's interesting to note that, especially with older games, in the recommended / minimum systems requirements sections, it almost ALWAYS only said something like "32mb video card", etc. Makes people think that as long as you have that much memory you can play the game.
     
  19. vshade

    vshade Notebook Evangelist

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    I think that this metric is bad now that they make weak cards with lots of memory, but in the past the amount of memory was somewhat a indicator of how powerfull a card was, but since the dx9 cards there was a trend of putting lots of memory in weak cards, but this don´t see to hapen in the stronger ones, is easy to see a 6200 with 512 mb but I never saw this amount of vram in the 6600 gt

    I think that this has to do with the price of fast memory...

    My girlfriend has an acer travelmate that is 3 years old and she never had problems besides performance in the sims 2, but i think that this has to do with the celeron the small amount of memory and the intel extreme 2, since she put 768mb of ram the computer plays the sims better
     
  20. Mr._Kubelwagen

    Mr._Kubelwagen More machine now than man

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    Haha... I hope that's a typo :p.
     
  21. mryerse

    mryerse Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah I think it is a typo :)

    The game publishers would be partially to blame to for saying that minimum card required is a XYZ MB of memory card that supports DX 9 or later.

    The one point where more memory is better though is this:
    Card with less memory VS same card with more memory.

    In that case it is better to have more memory. More memory won't make the game run faster, but it might allow certain parts of the game to work better.

    While I am totally against turbo cache, I will take some of it rather than none. I don't think it hurts anything except for those who don't understand it when they buy a new computer from a company that uses questionable marketing.
     
  22. lunateck

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    This might be what you'll be hearing if ur walking up to a salesman and ask them which is better, which they always try to sell you the stocks that they want to clear the most (the inferior ones)... :D
     
  23. Michadeon

    Michadeon Notebook Guru

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    Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that both the G1S and the 5920 will have the same Nvidia 8600 GT with GDDR3 memory. Am I to understand that the Acer one will have another card (GS) or what? I was merely refering to a comparison between identical GPUs with different amount of dedicated memory. That is the problem with incomplete specs, I guess.
     
  24. marioparty

    marioparty Notebook Consultant

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    Both have the same card. You can do a check easily on Google. =/
     
  25. Tdes

    Tdes Notebook Enthusiast

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    Something on my mind, and correct me if im not wrong, is the asus screen is 1680x1080 while the acers is 1200x800, now my current laptop (aspire 5650 w/7600go) is on 1200x800 but im looking for more performance so im looking at one with 8600 GT which is apparently 2x if not more faster on a 1200x800, yet this wont be the case on a 1680x1080 screen which will drain the performance, yes, i could set the reso on the asus down to 1200x800 but that causes the image to become blurry (as it's not the screen native reso) which i dont want, and to be honest im pretty happy with gaming at 1200x800 with better performance than at 1680x1080, which i believe, although my calculations are most likely wrong is something like 50% more pixels? which means the acer will be performing at 2x that of one on a 7600 but the asus will only be performing at 1.5x the performance in terms of graphics... i'd rather have 2x and be able to set all my game specs to high and AA + AF high than play on medium for e.g on a 1680x1080... please tell me im wrong as before i was tending to lean more towards the asus but now i'm not...
     
  26. matt_h1

    matt_h1 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Personally I like Asus as a brand more than Acer, But Acer's high end models seem to perform a bit better. My main concerns would be build quality. Also Keep in mind the G1S like all Asus notebooks come with a 2 year warranty, Acer on the other hand you have to pay ~$150 more to get a second year.
     
  27. dark5

    dark5 Notebook Consultant

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    Well, according to Acer's American website*, the specs state that it will only have the 8600m GT with 256MB of GDDR2 memory.

    * http://us.acer.com/acereuro/page9.d...=en&ctx3=-1&ctx4=United+States&crc=3406370942

     
  28. SDX

    SDX Notebook Guru

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    that's soo Right! Your calculations of performance are not that accurate, but you are another realistic user like me who loves the normal resolution of 5920!!! that high resolution mania on those small screens is sick.
    Talking about G1S the biggest flaws of it are - high-rez screen, flashy "gamer" looks and price.
    I am actually ready to buy 5920 as soon as it comes to my local retailers, and my money will back up my satisfaction of Acer's model.

    if Asus would sell A8 with 8600GT this summer, I would probably be on the Asus side, but... here I come Acer :)
     
  29. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    I cant find a etailor for the 5920 at all. Only place that had it so far was 2000$ same as the Asus and it didnt look to nice to me in the design factor.
     
  30. paulmdavies

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    I can't vote, because the poll is closed, but the 5920 all the way. The G1S has a faster processor, but the Acer pulls away by offering many other things: styling (I love the spec of the G1S but I really can't stand the looks, the flashing lights and so on, because it's clearly a gaming laptop. I like a computer to look modest but go like the clappers); the surround sound, TV tuner (in European models); and Acer at least in the UK offer extremely cheap warranties. Acer have made a real effort with the new Aspires whilst Asus just took the G1 and thought "Right. Let's put a new processor and graphics card in it". Also, to answer the reliability question marks over Acer, I have seen many, many Acer laptops and they are all superbly built and none of them have put a foot wrong (I have seen 5 in the past twelve months bought from brand new and all the owners are very happy - models from mostly the lower end of the range which offer excellent value for money)
     
  31. AlfCheesey

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    I also can't vote. My vote would have gone with the 5920 also.

    The screen resolution is 1280x800 I believe. Which is all I need - my 19" LCD has resolution of 1280x1024, and I think to have more than this on a 15.4" screen makes things too small (and too much for the graphics card, especially playing games at native resolution).

    I haven't seen anything mentioning it has a TV tuner though.

    If this goes on sale in UK for £800 including tax, as mentioned, then I'll snap this up the day it goes on sale!!
     
  32. lunateck

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    £800 Acer 5920, u r really a dreamer....
     
  33. paulmdavies

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    The first pictures released of it showed a TV Aerial socket on the right hand side, behind the much-discussed USB port. I can't find the pictures any more, but if you look on the picture showing the right hand side here:

    http://www.acer-euro.com/profile/eng/aspire.html

    Then there is an extra couple of ports, one of which is an aerial. However, this only applies to European models, for some reason. US specs are different, whilst the TV Tuner will be optional in Europe it will be unavailable on US models and US models will also not have the webcam, as can be seen on the US Acer site. Many European websites have included an optional TV Tuner on the spec sheets from when the laptop was released.

    ( http://laptoping.com/acer-aspire-5920-gemstone.html)

    And finally, according to the Trusted Reviews website, if you forgo the TV Tuner, then the Aspire has one final advantage over the G1S. The G1S may offer some better features, but are they really worth the extra £300-£500?
     
  34. VextoR

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    it's true, in Russia starting 11th of June price will £800 or $1538
     
  35. hocapoca

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    I am currently at Taiwan. Acer Aspire 5920 price is around $1400 after conversion with 2gb ram. Asus G1s is around $1650 for 1gb ram. Acer has 2 year warrenty but only 1 year outside taiwan. Asus has 2 year global warrenty. If you are in US I believe you can configure the new compal IFL90
    similar to Asus G1s for around 1550 with the 8600 GT card. Most compal vendor offer 3 year warrenty with free shipping back and forth for repair service. I believe the acer is probably the best deal ouf of the 3 if you just look at the spec. However, with the shortest warrenty period, if it breaks down likes the older aspire model.. then you will probably spend more money then the other 2 model.
     
  36. min2209

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    OOPS
    that just ruined my post a little didn't it :)
     
  37. Wiz33

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    Neither. Acer screen res is too low and the ASUS is too heavy and have a large footprint. I'm wait for the Travelamte 8200 series replacement. It should have the 2.2G CPU and a higher res screen and would still weigth less than the ASUS and have a smaller footprint.
     
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    didn't 5920 has MXM II card??
     
  40. Juan21

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    My gf got the Acer 5920G for US$1116 but with 1GB of ram (but I'm upgrading it to 2GB DDR2 667 corsair). Haven't tested it out though. Looks ok, but feels plasticky.
     
  41. Desaicrated

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    At Best Buy in the states, they are offereing a noncustomizable 5920 with 2gb ram, 8600gt, and core 2 duo processor for $1000. The only problem is, the core 2 duo is 1.5ghz.....which I was extremely confused by. The only pros it has over the g1s, is that it has better speakers (a damn subwoofer too) and a lower price for what you get. IMO, the looks on the Acer arent that great, with the white interior and black exterior. A lot of people also didn't add in the bluetooth in the price of the g1s when comparing what you get with the extra money. Plus flashy lights do cost money too. :p
     
  42. jam12

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    I was planning to get the Acer but I'm slightly concerned about the build quality, plus want to see some real life photos.
    I'm tempted to buy the Inspiron 1520 because of the GDDR3 but on the other hand, its more expensive (in the UK atleast).

    Haven't seen a user review on the 5920 so I'm still not sure if the Acer has any major flaws. If you can afford the G1s, I would go for that.
     
  43. benk2

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    Asus = Quality???
    no! no! no! Bro.... :mad:
    I'have a bad experiance with product that named "ASUS"
    So....i chose Acer!
     
  44. jam12

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    People have had the opposite of your problems aswell though, Acer doesn't always tick the right boxes when it comes to build quality.