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    Acer Predator Helios 500 Released with a Review

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Mastermind5200, Oct 19, 2018.

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    Doesn't mention absent TB3 on the Ryzen/Vega version. Doesn't mention throttling issues with i9 version.
     
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    Throttling happens on AMD version too.
    The Ryzen 2700 in that laptop is scoring practically the same in CB as my 1700 (which gets identical scores to desktop 1700 stock).
    Seriously... and I have yet to see the Acer Helios 500 with Ryzen and Vega undervolted (on stock) performance and temperatures.
     
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    Mainly because people don't seem to care about it, but I plan to buy it down the line (early next year)
     
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    If you do, undervolt the CPU and GPU for better performance.
    Heck, if Acer allows it, also repaste the whole thing... as I think that some people got far better thermals with repasting and undervolting.

    Which one do you plan to get?
    The one with Intel and NV or all AMD?
     
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    AMD one for the lolz and see if it's unlockable, I already have a faster desktop
     
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    You can also try to ask Acer to see if they plan on releasing BIOS updates for Zen 2... that would likely be the deal-breaker for me.
    Had I known that Asus had no intention of releasing BIOS support for Zen 2 (even though its a socketed laptop), then I probably wouldn't have bought the GL702ZC.
    I'd like the option at least so I can upgrade the CPU and gain 45% performance (or more) once Zen 2 is out, along of course faster RAM.
    Like this, I'll have to see if someone else might slipstream support for Zen 2 into existing BIOS.
     
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    TBH I could care less but I'd hope so for a $2k laptop, you might find better luck in the BIOS Mods forum
     
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    It's mostly under the radar mainly because it can't be bought anywhere. Supply seems non existent.

    The cpu being configurable is a given but if the gpu can be configurable for how much heat it puts out then it would make for a great machine.

    If you are working photoshop or video editing then make the gpu near 70 or less watts and put out 150w on the cpu (2 heatpipes are joined).

    If you are gaming then you can pump 150w (closer to stock Vega 56) and 100w on the cpu.

    This of course would only work if both gpu and cpu are configurable via software profiles, if not it's a bust.

    But again nobody knows because supply seems nill, consumers can't flesh out what it's actually capable of.
     
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    On my gl702zc, I didn't have wattman enabled on drivers and chsngich the frequency wss not possible.

    However, what I could do is use MSI afterburner to undervolt the rx580 on the core by -93mv. That certainly dropped the fan noise snd temperature under load.

    At any rate, not sure how accomodating Acer will be .