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    Add another Samsung 850 EVO HDD and two 8G DDR4 SDRAM 2133MHz

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by kbk_997, Nov 4, 2015.

  1. kbk_997

    kbk_997 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is there possible to install an "SAMSUNG 850 EVO M.2 250GB SATA III Internal SSD Single Unit Version MZ-N5E250BW" to an Clevo P670RG-G by myself?

    Also, I want to get two "Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 SDRAM PC4-17000 2133 Mhz 288-Pin Desktop Memory Model CT2K8G4DFD8213", upgrade the laptop to 32GB. But I am not sure if this is the right one since it is 288-pin, what's the one that factory original use in P670RG-G?


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147398

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...DDR4_SDRAM_2133MHz-_-9SIA1K636R5451-_-Product
     
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    Thanks!
    So, if I install another SSD myself, would anything happened that affect my original files or OS?
     
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    If you add another SSD to increase your storage capacity then it will appear as another disk drive. If you want to do something more complicated such as set up a RAID array then you would have to reinstall everything.

    John
     
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    There is always a way. :) I've switched to RAID without reinstalling everything. Just made a snapshot using Clonezilla (there is a lot of software like that but I like this one), created a RAID array and then just restored everything back from the snapshot. W10 working just fine after all these operations :)

    P.S: To be honest, I am just too lazy to reinstall everything :)
     
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    Should I copy everything(OS and applications) to a portable external hard drive, then after install the new SSD, recover everything from that portable external hard drive?

    I also consider should I go with the RAID 0 on two m2.sata SSD which each 250GB, or just got with only one m2.sata SSD which 500GB. Any suggestion?
     
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    It depends on what you really need. RAID0 has cons and pros. Pros: 20%-40% higher speed, and it will be seen as one 500Gb space. But as for the higher speed I am having doubts, in sense if you will be noticing speed improvement in standard scenarios because SSDs already very fast. Cons: If one of the drives fails, you will lose all the info as all the info within RAID0 array stored in stripes - small pieces of data spreaded across all drives in the array. So in your case I would not go with RAID0, but keep just two separate drives 250Gb each.

    If you are not going to create a RAID0 array then you don't have to copy anything to external hard drive, just add another SSD, initialize and format it. Otherwise, yes, you have to clone your data to an external drive and then restore it to newly created RAID0 array.

    Also I would go with two 250Gb instead of one 500Gb for reliability. If some drive fails you will lose only a half. Also file copy speed between two drives is much higher than within single one. Just my position.
     
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    However, check out the performance benchmarks for the proposed capacity SSD. Most have the same read speed irrespective of capacity, but usually there is reduced write speed as the capacity is decreased below 500GB due to the way the memory is structured. Personally I would get a single 500GB so that there is a spare slot for future increases in capacity and try to remember to make backups onto an external drive.

    John
     
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    Thanks John!

    Actually that what I was thinking. I want to get one 500GB SSD now, spare another port for future upgrade. Since getting one 500 is cheaper than two 250. and the price of SSD will drop in the future!
     
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    Thanks for explained that! I think the m2sata SSD is already fast enough, the risk to get the 20%-40% speed is too high.

    Do I need to install a OS in the external hard drive to store files and as a OS recovery drive? I check something like PE? I want to get the seagate backup plus 2TB.
     
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    No, you don't have to install OS to external hard drive. For example, you install Acronis True Image to your machine, create with it a rescue media - a bootable USB stick (1Gb USB flash is far enough). Then you connect external hard drive to your machine, run Acronis True Image and take a snapshot of your whole disk or some particular partition, saving it to external HDD.

    Then, once your machine fails, you replace faulty drive, connect your external drive containing snapshot and boot from rescue media USB stick. Choose a latest snapshot and select your new internal disk drive as a target. It will deploy stored snapshot to the new drive, then reboot and voila! Your machine works like before and has all the software installed as of time that snapshot were taken.

    It that simple :)
     
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    DO NOT RAID! Period. Unless you absolutely need the fastest sequential read speeds, don't do it. It's not worth the effort or risk. It only complicates things for little to no benefit. Just get the size SSD you need instead of RAID. RAID 0 should not even exist for the consumer imho. Only RAID levels worth the consumer level are RAID 1 (mirror) and if you have proper hardware, RAID 6 or RAID 10 for backup solutions. RAID 0 is just a remnant from days of yore when hard drives were slower than snot and was an easy way to get a boost. This is really no longer the case with SSD's or even modern hard drives.

    Just get the M.2 drive and do a clean install and get a hard drive or other 2.5" SSD for data, games, storage.

    And then you will have your original drive you can put in an external USB enclosure to put your important data back on your laptop drive, and then format the USB drive and have a drive to do backups with.

    And yes, before you do any of this, backup your important data off your original SSD or hard drive.
     
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    This is so much helps! Thanks!
    I did check Acronis True Image, and yes, really simple to do that!

    I still confusing, bootable USD stick/1Gb USB falsh, only for backup OS?

    And here you mentioned external HDD.
    So did you mean I need to have two drives prepare for the backup? One is the USB stick/flash used for backup OS or create the rescue media? And the other one is the external HDD used to backup files/apps/whole disks?

    Can I use only one external HDD to perform the above?
     
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    Use USB flash to create your OS installation media.

    Use whatever you want, USB flash, hard drive, SSD, whatever to backup your data and/or image your drive to.