Aftermarket cpu

I have a gateway M-6864FX. The main thing is lacking is cpu power so i was thinking about upgradeing th cpu. Is their any software updates i will need to do? Also could you tell me if the cpu is compatible. I belive it is but i just want to double check. Here are links to both.


laptop http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8907043&st=gateway+f&lp=4&type=product&cp=1&id=1213046783376


cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819111007

 

That cpu will not work in your laptop. Your laptop has a 667 Mhz FSB, so it either uses socket M or socket p processors. Please download CPU-Z, and post an image of the first tab (cpu), and the third one (mainboard), so we can determine which socket you have, and what your chipset supports.

Before upgrading your cpu, you should buy some kind of thermal compound, like Arctic Silver 5, and you should upgrade your Bios in order for the system to recognize the faster processor.

K-TRON

 

No CPU is not going to work you need one that will work with 965 chipset your link is for GM45 chipset. This will work, link.

I do not think will need to update BIOS but try and see?

 

ohh, I didnt see the pm 965 chipet part.
You should be able to upgrade to the T9300 a power pack mentioned, without any problems. Your chipset should support all socket P processors up to the T9500 or so. The extreme processors may or may not work, that will be dependant upon the cpu supported by your system's BIOS.

What cpu do you currently have, and what applications do you use?

K-TRON

 

He has T5750 2Ghz at 667FSB. I don't think upgrade is worth it.

 

Laptop specs here:
http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/2008/TempestFX/1015623R/1015623Rsp2.shtml

Mobo specs here:
http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/2008/TempestFX/4006270R/4006270Rsp2.shtml

Please correct me if I'm wrong

Core 2 Duo T8300 - 2.4 GHz
Core 2 Duo T7800 - 2.6 GHz
Core 2 Extreme X7800 - 2.6 GHz
Core 2 Duo T9300 - 2.5 GHz
Core 2 Extreme X7900 - 2.8 GHz
Core 2 Duo T9500 - 2.6 GHz
Core 2 Extreme X9000 - 2.8 GHz

 

Im wanting to play games. The gpu seems to be pretty good but the cpu is lacking.



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The CPU isn't lacking, it's just downclocked itself to save power and reduce heat. Once the CPU load goes up it'll clock itself up to 2 GHz (or anywhere in between if that's where the CPU prefers). There's no real point to upgrading that CPU since it's plenty powerful for playing games.

 

The T5750 should have no problems playing games.
If the cpu was really limiting, it would be running at 100% power throughout the game.
SO to check if its the cpu or not,
start task manager (ALT + CTRL + DEL) and leave it running in the background while gaming. Play the game for like 5 minutes. Than quit the game, and take a screenshot of the graph in task manager, and post it here.

If the cpu is around 100% than a cpu upgrade will help, but if the cpu is at like 40% than their is no point in upgrading the cpu.

K-TRON

 

what if the game requires 2.4 ghz?

Isnt the t5 the slowest of the socket p cpus?

 

I haven't really heard of many games requiring a 2.4GHz Dual-Core CPU as recommended....
And T5xxx is not really the slowest. There's the T7100 @ 1.8GHz

 

does the game say 2.4Ghz core processor, or 2.4Ghz pentium 4.
If it says 2.4Ghz core processor, than that game really needs a lot of cpu power, but if its says pentium in the requirements, than your cpu can easily outpace a pentium 4.

K-TRON

 

Game is mass effect here is a link to requirements. http://masseffect.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=626379&forum=125

 

I am not sure about that game if its coding is multi-threaded or not, but it'll run fine with the T5750. Upgrading to a T9300 will give you nothing but a 4-5 fps increase.

 

It says this
Processor:
2.4+GHZ Intel or 2.0+GHZ AMD
That says using the P4 standard. See how a slower AMD is needed? That is the P4 standard C2D are faster than AMD's.

 

Diablo 2 is loading extremely slowly. Thats the main point of this upgrade. If the p9500 is socket p why wont it work?

 

the p9500 has a 1066Mhz FSB, and is reffered to as a socket T processor. You need a socket P, like a T9500. The socket P processors have a T in front of them, the socket T ones have a P in front of them.
Its confusing, but thats intel's lousy way of numbering.

The long loading times are based on your harddrive, not really the cpu.

K-TRON

 

Chipset wont support 1066FSB. I am not going to do the math right know but if it would even boot, doubt. Running on a slower bus with it's multiplier would likely run slower than what you want to replace. It will not run 2.53Ghz but like I said I don't think it will even run.

You gotta trust us buddy. I gave you a link to a faster CPU what did you not like about it?

Loading useally has more to do with HDD not CPU. Also I can garuntee your CPU can load any game. CPU is not the issue.

K-T what? There are T9xxx Montevina. They are all socket P?

 

Newegg says that the p9500 is socket p ?

 

Because it won't be supported by the BIOS and chipset. Best upgrade - X9000 (worthless), 2nd best - T9500 (worthless), 3rd best - T9300 (pretty much worthless as you won't really need the 6MB cache whilst gaming), Best - T8300 (2.4GHz; 3MB Cache; Worthless if upgrading from a 2.0GHz C2D )

 

Because it won't be supported by the BIOS and chipset. Best upgrade - X9000 (worthless), 2nd best - T9500 (worthless), 3rd best - T9300 (pretty much worthless as you won't really need the 6MB cache whilst gaming), 4th Best - T8300 (2.4GHz; 3MB Cache; Worthless if upgrading from a 2.0GHz C2D )

 

Because it won't be supported by the BIOS and chipset. Best upgrade - X9000 (worthless), 2nd best - T9500 (worthless), 3rd best - T9300 (pretty much worthless as you won't really need the 6MB cache whilst gaming), Best - T8300 (2.4GHz; 3MB Cache; Worthless if upgrading from a 2.0GHz C2D )

 

Newegg is not always right. You need a processor with a 800Mhz FSB, like the ones ANDY mentioned.

K-TRON

 

***. repost much?

 

Andy chill! Ha Ha NBR is messing up bad!

 

First i want to thank you guys for arguing with me and not just saying forget it let him do what ever he wants. But im not done yet!

On newegg their is one review for the processor. The guy had a lenovo t61p laptop which comes with a T7700 and he upgraded to the p9500.

Also i belive the hd is 7200 rpm. Diablo 2 runs fine on my desktop. Which has a 7200 rpm drive a crapy video card and a 3ghz processor.

Also amazon claims p9500 is socket p

http://www.amazon.com/BX80576P9500-...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1220231126&sr=8-1

 

hariku, I have the same laptop (6864-fx) and am installing D2 right now. The others are right, you don't need a faster processor, especially for an almost 10 year old game. I'll let you know how it runs after it finishes installing.

An aside, the way game publishers list game requirements needs to be updated since cpu makers aren't going for the mhz/ghz battles of yesterday. That is why a 1.8ghz core 2 duo can run circles around P4 3+ghz processors. It's not apples to apples anymore.

 

the theory was if d2 loads slow then other games would load slow. But im currently running mass effect on it and its looking pretty nice. At full settings.

But just got a screen shot of the cpu usage. It was freezeing and i had a time getting the shot lol.

 

hariku821 K-T is the only one who said not socket P he said socket T. I asked him to explain but the site messed up and likely has not seen.

It is socket P go back and read what the problem would be if it did work, please.

Can you link to the upgrade you speak of?

 

just got a screen shot of the cpu usage. It was freezeing and i had a time getting the shot lol.

 

But just got a screen shot of the cpu usage. It was freezeing and i had a time getting the shot lol.




Link to the up grade vv ( i notice those arent the exact modle)
http://www.overclock.net/laptops-notebook-computers/293505-gateway-fx-laptop-series-thread-mods.html

 

You have 26MB of free memory? What is going on? I don't have Vista but it say 26MB free is a serious problem. Do you not think having trouble taking a screen shot does not indicate a problem other than CPU or the game?

 

I dont know lol. Vista is a bit crapy though. All my specs are good except cpu. So i reasoned cpu must be the problem. No viruses or anything the laptop is brand new and has always ran games like this.

 

sorry guys, it is a socket P processor. I remember reading here that the new monteveina ones were called socket T processors. I guess i read that before the monteveina launch.
Please excuse my mistake.
The cpu still will not work, cause of the front side bus limitation. Your chipset cannot use 1066Mhz FSB processors. It can only recognize and use 533Mhz, 667Mhz and 800Mhz bus processors.

Your task manager screenshot looks fishy. Usually when games load, the system spikes a lot as it waits for the harddrive to load, but yours just runs from like 0% straight up to 100% load.
It probably doesnt help that you have 47 background processes, you should shut most of them off with MSCONFIG, so that you have more memory, harddrive and cpu cycles free for the game to make use of.

K-TRON

 

So since im running at 100% on this cpu would a more powerful cpu help?

 

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000688.html

You could try out the T8300 or the T9300....

 

What is the cpu load before opening the game?
It looks like you have too many background processes running, which is eating a majority of your cpu's speed.
Simply shut them off with taskmanager/msconfig, and you should notice that the cpu usage should drop quite a lot, leaving more cpu power to go to the game.

At best, the best cpu for you to get is the T9500. The X9000 is way too expensive, for its marginal gains over the T9500.

K-TRON

 

Acording to jason cross of extreeme tech "most of the services you'd disable are pretty much important to leave on for carious other reasons (safety,networking access or searching, etc). Tweaking vista to use less memory isnt going to do much becasue a loot of that stuff gets pages out of memory when you run a full screen game anyway"

With out the game running i get 1-10 % usage

 

Well, the game is really using all of your cpu power than, so it would be time to upgrade if you deem it necessary. The T9300 or T9500 are your best options for price to performance.

K-TRON

 

I was figureing on going with the p95 and its got 10 less watts that was a bonus but since that wont work. How much baterylife am i going to loose with a t93-95 also will heat be a problem?

 

This forum is in need of technical help... Cant get to page 5 just redirects me here. so im gona try posting to see if it will let me see what i just posted which will be on page 5.



lol i post this and i get to see page 5 but this is all thats on it. How is this possible. Their was a pge 5 before i posted this so thus their was something on it?

 

Your current cpu uses 35 watts, so the batterly life should not be much different from the upgrade.
http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=33915

The T9300/T9500 also use 35 watts, so the battey life should not fluctuate more than 15 monutes on a full charge.
http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=33918&code=t9500

The T9xxx series is more power efficient cause it is manufactured on a 45 nm die rather than a 65 nm one, so you can get more processing power out of the same amount of wattage.

nbr has been having some serious problems the last two weeks, so we must put up with it.

K-TRON

 

So i cant do a t9400 either can i. fsb is 1k. take a look please.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819111008

 

You will lose zero. You will not suffer heat issues. You would be going from a 35w TDP to a 35w TDP, so why all the questions?

At this point I disagree with K-T as to the cause of your issues. I believe something else is going on.

Part of our problem is you have come here with the certainty it is your CPU that is the bottleneck. So you tell us that way. You feed us info in that direction?

How about this, the Gateway FX w/8800m GTS and like a 1.83Ghz CPU are not having issues? Why are you? You have a 2Ghz CPU and HD 2600? I don't want to argue, but well if you go out and spend $350 I might feel bad when it does not help.

Your problems are beyond explanation by your CPU. Others do not have the issues you do. Why charge ahead like a bull in a china shop? Slow down and think of what might be going on. Be logical and methodical. It may take longer but in the end the problem will be solved. Your method is faster but will not solve the problem.

Everyone else, consider why with a 2Ghz CPU and HD 2600 he is having these issues? If others are not with less why would any think CPU would show improvement?

Something is going on. OP has not told us because he does not know. It is our obligation (if we chose to help) to find out. Not just let OP waste money.

I have no idea right now. Why don't you guys take a fresh look come up with questions and let's try and figure out?

Just my thoughts.

 

Im up for figuring out whats wrong. But i always thought this cpu was kinda junk but i liked everything else and it would push the total up just above 1k$ so i didn't see much problem buying the laptop upgrading the cpu and haveing a pretty decent machine. Most of the info i provided was requested by you guys. I dont see what else could be wrong either i've got very good specs near top of the line except cpu and screen i suppose. If you think it may be a soft ware problem would some sort of benchmarking tool help to diagnose?

 

Ok, well....what is the problem exactly ?

 

Is it set up on some power saving mode? Run wPrime(free). SiSoftSandra is a free application to benchmark many parts of the system. I suggest downloading and running some benchmarks to see if obvious issues.

 

The problem is it takes for ever to load games ( even 10 yr old games i can run on a modified comidore 64 ) It runs at 100% cpu on mass effect. Its not set on the power saver mode made sure to turn that off.. For now im going to bed but i will run the benchmarks tomorrow and post them up tomorrow. Thank you for you help i really appreciate it. Alot of ppl just run away saying i will never believe them i have decided to do what i have decided to do. Thats just not true though if they came up with solid evidence my idea was wrong then i would take it but if their not convincing and their logic isnt as good as mine then i just keep debating the subject with them.

Thanks agin

 

pp, I thought it wasnt the cpu being the bottleneck, until I heard it was like a 12 yr old game. Of course the boards here arent cooperating, so I couldnt post until now. hariku, try uninstalling the game and reinstalling it. For some reason, it must not be stored properly, cause you are having problems which others are not having.
If you are up to it, do a clean install of the operating system, and install all of the appropriate drivers, and than the game. If the game still runs at 100% cpu power, their is an incompatibility situation the game is having. Looking at the required specs of the game, a core solo ULV should be able to run that game without any problems.
Their is definitely software problems on your system, so a reinstall of the operating system, or just the reinstallation of teh game, may be all that is necessary.

K-TRON

 

Good night good idea to talk tomorrow when all are refreshed.

But loading a 10 year old game does not indicate a CPU issue. But let us save for tomorrow I will think about, you think, others think, and tomorrow tackle.