Aftermarket cpu

I'm actually quite shocked. I'm testing the game in window mode using the same laptop as him, and my sidebar gadget tells me I am going between 65 and 80% cpu usage for D2 (core 2 is at 97% in fact). The load times were fine though.

 

Maybe the game works off of clock speed and not MFLOPS?
Thats really strange, it sounds like the game can only use one processor core, which may be why it is running so slow.
dph1077, are both cores being used by the game, or just one?

K-TRON

 

Masseffect minimum requirement spells out HD 2400 falls short and that is desktop HD 2400. Your HD 2600m is just at the minimum. The recommended 7900GTX well consider that is a lot more card.

Diablo II runs on Windows 95? Do not tell me the 2Ghz CPU is the issue? I mean 95? Also it talks of optional 8MB GPU they are still talking about "Glide". I agree you may be having issues but increasing CPU for incompatible hardware or code conflicts is well not the best approach.

Is your card even being used or CPU doing it all? There are clearly issues but not the CPU.

 

That's a game designed and optimised for Windows 95 not Vista.

How did you install your game?

Did you install it by right clicking on the stupe/install file and selecting 'run as Windows 98'?

 

i ran wprime. But the si soft has alot of options which ones should i run on sisoft?

here is w prime.

 

just put the disc in got the install game prompt and instaled

 

hariku821 OK you ran wPrime? If you don't tell us the time can't help. I mean I new it was going to run. Was not a test to blow up computer or anything. What was your time.

SiSoft, 2 CPU benchmarks, RAM bandwidth bench. Run HDTune (free) and give us the numbers please.

I don't have Vista but I think naton is saying don't do the auto install. I think he is saying find the install.exe and right click. Also I would encourage you to do a complete uninstall first.

 

Try to use the 'run a Win98' in Vista. To access it:
1- Uninstall th game.
2- Right click th game installation file. The file used to install the file should be install.exe or install.exe
3- Select 'Properties'
4- Select the second tab. I think it's called compatibility or something like that.
5- Select 'Run as' and Windows 98.

Win XP has the Win 95 option but Vista doesn't, this why ou have to use Win 98 instead. Besides, software/games designed for Win 95 use to run fine under Win 98.

 

I linked a pic of the screen shot of wprime were you not able to view it?

 

the picture is not showing. You can upload it to the NBR server or use imageshack.us and put the link in your message

 

i have tried installing it like that same thing happens.

 

you could also try the same thing on the icon of the game after the installation

 

It is certainly a compatibility issue with that game. You can try and dual-boot XP, and run the game in XP to see if the game works fine with it.
The T5750 is a very capable CPU and you won't notice much of a boost when upgrading to the T8300/T9300, except a slight fall in temps....
PS. I haven't read the previous posts yet

 

I did use image shack??? lol i will put a link to the pic instead of a thumb


http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wprimean8.jpg

 

It is working

 

This sounds more of a game compatibility issue and it doesn't matter if you have a Montevina system or not. And upgrading the CPU wouldn't solve the issue.

You may want to go to Blizzard.com and talk to tech support or check their downloads section for compatibility updates for Vista.

There is no possible way a Gateway 6864FX can't run a 2D game of that age unless it's the game that's the problem.

 

I think the same in particular with his 41s in Prime

What was the power needed to run this game?
Win 95 is the era of the Pentuim 1 and Pro,so 100Mhz, 166Mhz?

 

On mass effect im getting 30-38 fps with max settings at 1027x768 res

 

you could search the net for a patch to play this game in Vista or use an emulator like:
http://bochs.sourceforge.net/
or
http://www.dosbox.com/news.php?show_news=1

 

What's the problem? If load time well HDD. The wPrime score is fine.

Run HDTune want to see if HDD issues. You do not need to run SiSoft CPU benches. SiSoft RAM bandwidth would be nice to see.

I wish I can remember but there is one function of your ATI card that overly cripples ATI vs Nvidia. Right now can't remember AA or triple buffering some feature on the card should be turned of to increase frames. Someone please chime in to save me time.

haiku once all is in order if you want to upgrade? Go for it but many are now telling you not needed and not your issue. Consider? $350 is a good amount might want to save and a 2Ghz is well balanced with a HD 2600.

 

Keep the money for your next laptop.

 

SiSoftware Sandra memory bandwidth bench

Benchmark Results
Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 3.30GB/s
Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 3.36GB/s
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

Performance vs. Speed
Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 5.09MB/s/MHz
Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 5.18MB/s/MHz
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

Performance vs. Power
Chipset(s)/Memory Power : 13.39W
Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 252.20MB/s/W
Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 256.76MB/s/W
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth
Assignment : 3.17GB/s
Scaling : 3.19GB/s
Addition : 3.44GB/s
Triad : 3.39GB/s
Data Item Size : 16bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 63.57%

Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth
Assignment : 3.25GB/s
Scaling : 3.27GB/s
Addition : 3.48GB/s
Triad : 3.43GB/s
Data Item Size : 16bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 64.72%

Performance Test Status
Run ID : Intel Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Express Processor to DRAM Controller; 2x 2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 (5-5-5-15 3-20-5-3)
Platform Compliance : x64
Memory Used by Test : 2.00GB
NUMA Support : No
SMP (Multi-Processor) Benchmark : No
Total Test Threads : 1
Multi-Core Test : Yes
SMT (Multi-Threaded) Benchmark : No
Processor Affinity : P0C0T0
System Timer : 14.32MHz
Page Size : 4kB
Use Large Memory Pages : No

Features
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : Yes
SSE3 Technology : Yes
Supplemental SSE3 Technology : Yes
SSE4.1 Technology : No
SSE4.2 Technology : No
EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : No
SSE4A Technology : No
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No

Chipset
Model : Intel Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Express Processor to DRAM Controller
Revision : A4
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 166MHz (664MHz)
Width : 64-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 5.19GB/s

Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 1GB DDR2 5-5-5-15 3-20-5-3 1T
Bank 1 : 1GB DDR2 5-5-5-15 3-20-5-3 1T
Bank 4 : 1GB DDR2 5-5-5-15 3-20-5-3 1T
Bank 5 : 1GB DDR2 5-5-5-15 3-20-5-3 1T
Channels : 2
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 332MHz (664MHz)
Multiplier : 2/1x

 

honest your laptop and CPU are fine. All your problems are related to an incompatibility issue between your game and Vista, or your Game and your GPU setup or drivers.

Try to run a new game such as Need For Speed Carbon (or any other modern game) and see.

I bid you that you'll be able to play them witout any glitch.

 

But mass effect is running at 100% cpu power. Wouldnt that mean if i had a faster cpu it would be able to handle the game better?

hd tune results

 

Not really.

Games are designed differently to other sotware. A game consists from a programming point of view in a big loop. The loop main purpose is to wait for the player input (keystrock, mouse movement...). So even when you're in the main menu ofthe game, where no object is moving (i.e. soliciting the CPU, GPU or both) the CPU should be at 100.

With multithreaded games running on 2 or 4 cores CPUs not all the cores will necessarely run at 100%. Only the core executing the main loop of the game will be at 100%.

Question:
As your game is old, it is not multithreaded. So are both cores in your CPU at 100%?

 

Make sure your game settings are even using hardware acceleration. The games settings not windows. Games back then had that option software/hardware go check.

 

This remembered me of something.

I used to play NFS4 on a desktop with a Pentium 2 350Mhz, 32mb ram, and an 8mb SiS 6326 Graphics (1998). This game was playable no problems unders Windows 98.

I tried to play this game not long ago on a Dell laptop with a Pentium M @ 2Ghz, 1gb ram and a 64mb dedicated ATI X300 and Windows XP. The speed of the cars was slower than a crowling baby.

The Dell sytem is I don't know 10-20 times faster than my 1998 desktop but because this game did not like my graphics card coudn't get it to a playable speed. I tried several patches I found in the net but to avail.

 

Don't games have to support the graphics card as well? I think Diablo 2, despite it's popularity, is a very old game compared to today's standards. I mean, it's 8 years old, and back in the day it was probably running DirectX 5 or 6, and it doesn't seem to have the support that I expected from Blizzard.

Check out this thread here on D2JSP.com
http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=4953952&f=188
it talks about a bunch of techiniques for it to run on Vista.

 

It is definietely software problem, with teh game.
Now that I think of it, I have the same problem with Doom 95. The game was designed to use 100% load. So on a pentium 2 system, it runs at 100% load, and on my dual core Opteron it runs at 100% clock speed.
There is nothing wrong with your system, the game was just not coded to work with today's much more powerful systems.

Have you tried running the application in Windows 95 or 98 mode liek naton suggested?

K-TRON

 

Ok i guess i will forgo the upgrade. In what a year 350 would get me a new laptop with a newer core in it any how lol. Thanks for saveing me the money i may throw it into my desktop instead.

 

ive tried 98 mode get the same result

 

Sorry we could not fix. We did try, and I do not think faster CPU help.

I am not ready to give up but if you and everybody else are ready to give up what can pp do?

 

I meant put the 350 aside. when you're tired of your present laptop, sell it second hand, add the 350 and get & new laptop.

If this game is popular than google is your best friend. I'm sure that some one must have found a work around.

Well, if you can get a CD of Windows 95 or 98, you could create a virtual machine and install this old version of windows inside it. Then install your game and test.
For the virtual machine you can try amongst others: Virtual PC or VirtualBox