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    Alternative to ridiculous $95 flat Micro SATA cable for Envy 15?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Radiating, Oct 17, 2010.

  1. Radiating

    Radiating Notebook Geek

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    To upgrade the Envy 15's hard drive to a set of SSDs you have to buy two of these:

    http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/oasis4u/envy15parts/IMG_1049.jpg

    The price for these is $95, which any sane person would agree is ridiculous, even the tech support guys at HP. The special design of the cable has a flat connector on the motherboard end.

    I'm wondering if anyone can find a replacement, I'd be super happy if that happened.

    HP Part number is 576830-001
     
  2. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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    Why do you need to buy that? I thought you can use the old cables.
     
  3. User Retired 2

    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Can get the same part for US$53. It's proprietory so you'll need to pay up for it. At least at that price you can get two for the price of HP's one.
     
  4. H.A.L. 9000

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    And here I was thinking Sony was ridiculous. HA.
     
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  6. Radiating

    Radiating Notebook Geek

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    With the single 2.5" HDD you get a single non micro-sata cable, 1.8" drives use micro-sata cables that aren't compatible with the one you get so you need two new ones. $40 each + shipping + applicable tax

    Yep, I already saw those links. You need TWO of those, which works out to $99 for the first one and $155.00 total ($49 shipping) for the second.

    This is the same as the second one above $155.00 total ($49 shipping). I'm pretty sure these sites are just scams that resell the original parts.
     
  7. Radiating

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    Would appreciate some more help.
     
  8. Radiating

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    Would appreciate even more help. :)
     
  9. wave

    wave Notebook Virtuoso

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    Just to be clear, what are you doing?

    Replacing one normal 2.5 hard disk with two 1.8 SSDs. So instead of one Envy 15 adapter that connects a proprietary port on the main board with standard sata, you need two adapters that connect the proprietary port with micro sata?

    Did you already get the two 1.8 inch SSDs?
    cost of two 1.8 inch SSDs + 95$ = a very nice 2.5 inch SSD with standard sata
     
  10. Radiating

    Radiating Notebook Geek

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    Yes that's exactly what I'm doing, the reason for the 1.8 SSDs is two fold, first to raid them and second to get 500 GB which there aren't any models out there which can do that in 2.5"

    It's not a proprietary port it's a standard micro sata cable with a shallow connector on the motherboard end.
     
  11. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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    But do you really need two SSDs in RAID? What are you using them for?
     
  12. Trottel

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    Why don't you buy/find the mini sata connectors and splice them onto proprietary motherboard connector you already have?
     
  13. Radiating

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    Well that would save me a bunch of money. How do I do that?
     
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    Cheapest option would be identify the 3.3V, GND and SATA TX-/TX+, RX-/RX+ lines, and run shielded cable, soldering it straight to your 1.8" drive, example shown here.
     
  15. Radiating

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    I'm using them to work from home using ridiculously large data sets. The computer it's trying to get close to has 16 SSDs with separate raid controllers 16gb of ram and that $1000 six core i7 980X obviously a desktop.

    I chose the envy 15 specifically so I could raid it and get 16gb of ram. The stock raided SSDs are intel X18 G1s and I decided to go with the new 1.8" C300 256gb models.

    I just think $95 for 2 cheap cables is ridiculous. Looking at the HP store their mark up on parts is exactly 300% of the street price, the $300 720QM processor is $1000 and the $500 820QM processor is $1500, which is just "scam" level money so I just hate the idea of buying from them. You also have to get the hard drive enclosure, so for 2 cheap cables and a few screws and rubber isolators, I'm basically handing $100 in clean profit over to HP.
     
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    See if newmodeus can help you out. No Envy 15 part on their inventory but link has a Envy 17 part.
     
  17. Radiating

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    Soldering, when there are $700 hard drives involved? eep :eek: I not super confident in my soldering skills, so I limit that to LEDs and fans.

    Instead of building my own cable, I've decided that the best option is to reuse the stock cable with a $5.59 mini SATA to SATA adapter, and then buy only one of HP's overpriced cables for about $50, although I'm open to other options.
     
  18. Radiating

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    Thanks. That's a good price but that's a regular SATA cable, not a micro unfortunately.
     
  19. tilleroftheearth

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    I read the above and had to laugh. - Sorry!

    In the 3 or 4 days you've spent worrying how much money HP will make you could have had these cables in your hands and been a little more productive with them. ;)

    Since this is for work (or for getting your 'home' work done faster so you can relax sooner) it doesn't matter what the cost is - at least not when the benefits will be seen in as little as a few days time.

    Buy the cables, depend on your machine and - bill your company! :D
     
  20. Radiating

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    When I ordered the C300 drives there was a few days before the supplier would ship them (they arrive late next week) so that's why I decided it was ok to worry about the price of the HP cables. You're right thought, if I had the drives I wouldn't even bother worrying about how overpriced they were.

    My employer actually gave me a fixed $2000 allowance (and ownership) for the computer but I decided to get a nice Envy 15 chassis for personal use, so I've exceeded the budget to get a nice new personal computer.
     
  21. tilleroftheearth

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    Radiating,

    I knew there were reasons for your actions.

    You 'exceeded the budget' in a very nice way!

    Would love to hear how this system performs for you when you have all the parts together.

    Cheers!
     
  22. NotEnoughMinerals

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    With your setup already being that pricey I wouldn't take any chances with possibly sketchy connectors from a 3rd party. That's an expensive connector but you might well just to avoid some risk.