The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Amd C-50 - Any chipset?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by maadamos61, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. maadamos61

    maadamos61 Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Does this chip, AMD C-50, have an "external" chipset that goes with it, like the NM10 for the Atom by Intel, or is it already integrated. I am a little confused because the TDP for the C-50 is given as 9 Watts. The TDP for the Atom N455 is given as 6.5Watts. However there are some claims that the C-50 systems have a longer battery life. I wonder if there has been a real life comparison to check at the wall receptacle power draw for each system. Any help will be highly appreciated. Thanks. :confused:
     
  2. gdansk

    gdansk Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    325
    Messages:
    728
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    41
    The chipset of the C-50 is the FCH1 "Hudson". I'm not sure how much power it uses, but it is best to compare complete systems for a more complete picture.

    Here is a decent comparison:
    [​IMG]
    Battery life relative to capacity during internet usage, I'd say this is pretty indicative of power efficiency. Note these are the E-350s, I'd assume the C-50 is even more power efficient.
     
  3. TomJG90

    TomJG90 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    46
    Messages:
    425
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Its all integrated unlike the atom chipset. The Fusion notebooks do have longer battery life but their GPU's use more power under heavy load compared to Atoms so that's their only downfall.. other than that , i'd get a C-50 anytime. The Atom is based on obsolete P4 architecture. I don't even want to start about how slow they are.
     
  4. gdansk

    gdansk Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    325
    Messages:
    728
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    41
    That is incorrect. Atom's architecture is a ground up design ( called Bonnell), it is not based on Pentium 4's Netburst micro-architecture. First generation Atom processors do use an NM10 Express chipset but newer Pine Trail Atoms also have an integrated memory controller and on die GPU. So both Fusion and Atom now use a "platform controller hub" rather than a traditional chipset. Because more of the functions are offloaded to the C-50 itself rather than the rest of the system, the listed TDPs are not comparable between the N455 with NM10 and the C-50 with FCH1 based platforms. It is best to look at specific notebooks and compare their battery life.
     
  5. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    Seems strange to compare laptops with different screen sizes in that table.
     
  6. MidnightSun

    MidnightSun Emodicon

    Reputations:
    6,668
    Messages:
    8,224
    Likes Received:
    231
    Trophy Points:
    231
    I think that table wasn't so much as to compare to all similar competitors, but rather to include some similar-alternative systems as well as some well-known laptops (ie, MBP 13).
     
  7. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    In that case it's not a good way of comparing power efficiency of platforms.
     
  8. TomJG90

    TomJG90 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    46
    Messages:
    425
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Whichever way , the Fusion platform is superior performance wise. It might not be as good as Atom in Battery life , but a 5-10% battery life less is a worthy sarifice for 20-30% better performance or even more. I'm not sure of the numbers but i do know this.