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    Any 2.5" 2 platter 9.5mm HDD's larger than 1TB yet?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Zer0 C00l, Jun 13, 2012.

  1. Zer0 C00l

    Zer0 C00l Notebook Consultant

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    Any plans in the works for 750gb or 1tb per platter in 2.5" form factor?
     
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    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Are you talking about normal 9.5mm sizes? Cause there are 2.5" 2 TB drives, just 12.5-15mm thick. won't fit in a normal laptop.
     
  3. Zer0 C00l

    Zer0 C00l Notebook Consultant

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    yes 1 platter=7mm 2 platter=9.5mm 3 platter=12.5mm 4 platter =15mm

    I currently have western digital 9.5mm 2 platter 1tb drives in my notebooks. They are obviously 500GB per platter. I'm looking for 1.5-2TB in the 2 platter 9.5mm space which would be 750-1TB per platter.

    And yes the 1.5TB drives are 3x platter 12.5mm drives and the 2TB drives are 4x platter 15mm drives. None of those broke the 500GB per platter limit on 2.5" drives yet
     
  4. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Believe me, I came here to open exactly the same topic when I realized yours. At least I know I'm not alone who wish bigger HDD than 1TB. I think WD10JPVT 1TB 5400 RPM Drive out for one whole year now, so it would be wise to move 640GB/platter for seeing some improvements.
     
  5. Zer0 C00l

    Zer0 C00l Notebook Consultant

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    640 would give an odd total size. The next platter bump will be to 625GB or 750GB.
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    1280GB sounds ok to me, but would be preferred 1,5 or 2TB. Today's SSDs also reached 1TB, so time for HDD makers move up otherwise get beated by SSDs.
     
  7. Zer0 C00l

    Zer0 C00l Notebook Consultant

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    it's only a matter of time before ssd density beats hdd density. As the nm process gets smaller and smaller and they stabilize Tri layer cells and quad layer cells. Magnetic platters can't keep up with the speed at which ssd's are advancing. HDD's will still be much cheaper per GB at those larger sizes for a good while even when the ssd density surpasses it price will still stay higher.
     
  8. nissangtr786

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    my dream is to have a 512gb ssd which is fast and reliable i.e. will last 10 years and to have a 1tb hdd so 512gb ssd for games 1tb for everything else.
     
  9. Zer0 C00l

    Zer0 C00l Notebook Consultant

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    well crucial m4 512GB SSD can be bought for only 400 even less if u find a good sale and western digital and samsung both have 2 platter 9.5mm height 2.5" 1TB HDD's. So you can already have that set up for about 500 dollars.
     
  10. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Ssds already exceeded hdd in terms of density. They can fit a 256gb ssd in msata drives, so in a 2.5" drive they could easily fit 2tb but it's just not cost effective to mass produce.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
     
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    Yeah I doubt there are going to be any manufacturers that will try to go up on HDD capacity. Look at how fast the popularity of SSDs is increasing. Two years ago, many vendors didn't even offer an option. Today, almost everyone offers SSDs and there are several that can be purchased on websites.
     
  12. Zer0 C00l

    Zer0 C00l Notebook Consultant

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    Well I hope they do. It's going to be a long time before 2.5" 2TB SSD's are as affordable as a 2TB HDD would be.
     
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    the main issue in the future will be if an internal high capacity (lets say 1tb or 2tb 2.5" drive) will be able to outperform external hdd arrays and/or cloud storage in terms of price/perfomance ratios.

    for the average user, hd capacity is mostly used by music, videos, and photos. Cloud storage is used for all three, so if internet companies can keep up in terms of speed and cost, there's no reason to have it stored locally.

    for the professional user, external storage arrays over usb3.0 or thunderbolt may suffice.

    I'm sure storage sizes will continue to increase, but we're reaching a point in computing history where storage capacity on a laptop might not be that important.
     
  14. Zer0 C00l

    Zer0 C00l Notebook Consultant

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    Sorry, I have to disagree. I store blu-ray iso images that keep the movies and menu's untouched and at full bit rate. Those bitrates can be in the 40mbit range. Now I pay 100 a month for 50/5 connection so I could potentially stream full bit rate hd video but I'd say 95% of the population in the US is nowhere close to these speeds.

    We have at least 10 years to wait until the average internet user can stream full bluray bitrate quality movies but that's just taking 1920x1080 video into consideration. We are moving to 3840x2160 video within that same time frame as well. That means we will need 80-100mbit connections as the average connection to stream that.

    Some people don't mind having slightly more compressed video and slightly lower quality. I do mind. I only watch full uncompressed bluray video. Local storage will be crucial for a long long time for people like me that refuse to take a quality hit.
     
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    True, but people like you are rare. It is all about economies of scale. They cannot afford to manufacture a couple thousand HDDs a year. Why don't you store your movies on an external? I am sorry if you already said it and I missed it but there was a lot of info flying around in this thread :)
     
  16. Zer0 C00l

    Zer0 C00l Notebook Consultant

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    Don't know why but I have the worst luck with external drives. Had a Lacie external that died and 2 seagate externals that died all within 2 years but in my entire 18 years of owning computers i've NEVER had an internal fail ever.

    thats just recent externals. I've also had a few western digital externals die on me as well. In 18 years I've lost 6-7 external drives and 0 internal. Don't know how or why but that's just what happens to me
     
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    As far as I know there's only 2 options available for 1 TB 9.5mm HDDs? (Please correct me if I'm wrong) And they're both 5400 rpm. Would like to know if there are any for 7200rpm?
     
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    How often do you do read and write on them? With a plastic enclosure, if you are doing a LOT of reading and writing from an external, it is going to get really hot. That number tells me that all drives have a similar problem, most probably over heating too often without sufficient cooling.
     
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    An aluminum enclosure will fix that though. I literally abused externals in aluminum enclosure and the drives while not entirely cool weren't hitting dangerous temps either.
     
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    External? I was thinking of putting it as a secondary drive (storage) in my notebook, replacing the ODD.

    Frequency would vary I guess, my main hdd is an ssd so that's what I use the most but I'll be saving most of my documents on the storage drive.

    Are there aluminium hdd caddys?
     
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    All the caddies I've seen are metal and i doubt there'll be a problem in the ODD anyways.
     
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    haha that sounds great , but what about my original question? :p Or is there nothing currently
     
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    Nothing in the 7.2K RPM department and nothing over 1TB.
     
  24. Zer0 C00l

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    4 months later and still stuck with 2x WD Blue 1TB drives in my m18x. What I really need is a high quality 5 bay external nas with 5x 4TB drives in raid 5. But quality 5 bay nas's with 5 hdd + an extra incase of a failure is too much money.

    I wish I could afford enough hdd space to hold every single blu ray disc i like in iso format. I would need 100's of TB to do it tho
     
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