Any Gurus out there?? Need Help Laptop Upgrade

Hi guys

I have an old sony vaio laptop Model - VGN FE 25GP im Upgrading.

The main objective of this upgrade is to run windows 7 (if possible)

Just have bought two sticks of
VS1GSDS667D2 Corsair 1024MB PC2-5300 667Mhz DDR2 SODIMM RAM - Value Select.

Also Bought Seagate 250GB 7200rpm 2.5" Mobile Serial ATA HDD w. 16MB Cache (ST9250410AS) Momentus 7200.4

Dont wanna go ssd cause of price I will save the ssd drives for my asus rampage 2 build!!

I Want to change the CPU from the T2400 to the Core 2 Duo T7600 Thats the Best Cpu Right??

Will I Have Any Problems Installing Windows 7?? With my new cpu

Ive included the screenie of CpuZ & a screenie of windows adviser.

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http://www.filesaves.com/z8zx7u1zv40e/6.jpg.htm

http://www.filesaves.com/1m5drkr5cixi/rr.jpg.htm

Suggestions Please

Thankyou

 

What else are you doing with your laptop? Win 7 should have no issues with any of the mentioned hardware, though for the cost, the best upgrade would probably be to 2x2GB sticks of memory. CPU upgrades are rarely worth it, unless you have a specific need.

 

I'm running Windows 7 Ult x86 on my Dell which has the T2400, currently only 1GB Ram, until the 4GB kit get's in. You should have no problem running Win7 in your current state, unless you need heavy processing power.

 

Just Surfing the web Mostly, working building websites some gameing and video editing also, Ok wow i didnt know you could run 4Gb of Memory after doing some research i thought max was 2GB for the VGN FE 25GP.

Sorry im a newbe at building, So something like this would be ok


Corsair 4096MB (2 x 2048MB) PC2-5300 667MHz DDR2 SODIMM RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145193

Kingston 4096MB (2 x 2048MB) PC2-5300 667MHz DDR2 SODIMM RAM - 4-4-4-12 - HyperX Series
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134661

 

get the cheaper one.. there will be no difference... also try finding DDR2-800 (PC2-6400) RAM as it might be cheaper...

 

I thought the chipset only supports up to DDR2 667 on the VGN FE25GP?

 

Unlike Vista, you don't need to throw hardware at Windows 7 to have a pleasant experience running it. If you did upgrade the processor you'd have no problems with an install, period. You can deffinitely run it on those specs, i'm running it on a T43 with a 2GHz Pentium M, 1.5GB DDR2 RAM, 80GB Hitachi 5400RPM, ATI X300 no trouble, smooth experience and the GPU can run every Aero effect without stutter...

 

I have a copy of windows 7 64bit and tryed to install it and this is what i got-

Attempting to load a 64bit application, however this cpu is not compatable with 64bit mode..

Is that just because that cpu is compatable for the 32bit version of windows 7?

Also if i change from the core duo T2400 to the Core 2 Duo T7600 is it just a matter of swaping over cpu,s??

 

Given the usage, it's a waste of time and effort to upgrade the CPU if you ask me, my opinion of course.

 

So just keep the same Cpu and just get a copy of windows 7 32bit and ill be right hey

 

It is good to get advise and suggestions but never let others decide for you. I have recently upgraded my CPU and I am very pleased with that, you'll notice the performance increase regardless of what you do. If you go for anything above T7200 you won't regret.

 

Yea no worries thanks for that any performance upgrade would be good and the T 7600 is a big jump from the current so why not I'm sure I will get some gain!! Going to also chuck 4Gb in to and maybe later a ssd also Chears Ellalan!!

 

Yes it wouldn't load 64-bit because the processor does not support 64-bit instructions, a T7600 would. It's just a matter of taking the heatsink in your notebook off (taking the notebook apart to reach it of course), twist a screw that opens the CPU socket, gently remove the old one, and pop in the new one, making sure the corner with the gold is in line with where it's supposed to be in relation to the CPU socket.

 

If you still want a 64bit CPU I recommand the T5500, T5600, or T7200. The T7400 and T7600 are way to expensive.

That's said I think you should save your money as 32bit Win 7 will work just fine with your T2400

 

Doesn't matter as the DDR2-800 RAM will automatically downclock to 667MHz... and also , if ur going to upgrade this much , u might as well get a new laptop... u can upgrade but if ur going to spend 200-300 to upgrade or even more if u get an SSD , u really are better off with a new core i series laptop....

 

Just because the chip supports 64bit does not mean the system will.
The chipset also needs to be 64bit compatible.


My advice, put 32bit Win7, it will allow you to use the default Visa or Xp drivers and utilities for a 100% working system and you will get just as much speed as you woudl from using 64bit. This will also let you run better with only 2gigs of ram (it runs nice with that much) and also allows you to later upgrade the ram and cpu when you are ready.


For the record, Sony is particularly bad about making drivers and utilities that will work in 64bit, and especially 64bit Windows7. Odds are you will NEVER get that notebook working 100% like it did from the factory when using it (function keys, brightness settings, battery care, etc...). You may not even be able to get a camera to work. It took a VERY long time to get a newer SZ model to work well.


As others have said, it will work well like it is on 32bit, and faster ram will be worthless and waste of money. The CPU upgrade, you will see a difference, but you may also want to check and see how it will effect your battery life. There is a CPU upgrade guide around the site here someplace, I suggest you find it and verify that the CPU you want will actually work. Even if it plugs in, that doesn't mean your bios will support it.

 

Ok thanks for all your help guys I am loveing the input and learning as well I have a currrent laptop a Asus N61JV-JX002V Core i5 its Mad!!

Im just upgradeing my old vaio for fun, to learn and to Boost up the old beast as much as i can!!

Ok can anyone tell me?? what is the best the fastest CPU i can upgrade to with my VGN FE25GP with out having to stuff around with changing bois, a Cpu that is compatable with my current motherboard one i can just Stright Swap..

I will run Windows 32bit!! to save any Hassles with chipset/drivers compatablity.

 

There is a cpu upgrade guide on here, I saw it not long ago, but I cannot find it now. It explains which sockets work with what and things to watch out for.

If someone can post a link it would be appreciated.

 

Yes if you get to a certain point, you're just upgrading what will be legacy hardware in a couple years. I'd suggest an i series based laptop, or at least a Core 2 based laptop that will accept a Core 2 Quad, i'm getting a ThinkPad W700 17" to replace the T61p that was run over, it's a pretty flexible machine power wise, and you may run up to 3 storage drives.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=209284

 

That was the one. I think I looked right at it while searching and didn't realize it.

Thanks!

 

I bookmarked it right after I found it. I spend time on the Toshiba Forums and refer people to that thread quite often.

 

That depends on your notebook and your needs.
If you have something high end, it doesn't make sense to replace it that often, if it is cheap it does make sense.

My Sony SZ, realistically, there is little out there that even today can compete with it so why replace it? If I put in an SSD, it's more than plenty. Granted it is only a core2 duo (a higher end one), but it's a notebook, not a desktop and it is more than plenty fast. A quad or I series at this point isn't enough of a gain to invest the amount needed to upgrade.

Would I like an I5 or I7, yes, but realistically, my C2d does everything I need and then some and will continue to do so for a couple more years. At which time I will pass it on to a family member who only does minor photo editing and web surfing.

 

Thanks for that i looked at the chart and is this the section i should be looking at? socket m? because my motherboard is i945pm

It says ok for the T7600?



Socket M
Socket M supports Core Solo, Core Duo, some Core 2 Duo, Pentium Dual-Core and associated Celerons based on Yonah and Merom cores. These chips were produced from 2006 to the present.

Core Solo

Yonah

Core Solo T1350 1866 2048 533

Core Solo T1200 1500 2048 667
Core Solo T1300 1660 2048 667
Core Solo T1400 1833 2048 667
Core Solo T1500 2000 2048 667
Core Solo T1600 2166 2048 667

Chipsets

940GML 533
943GML 533

945GMS 533/667
945GM 533/667
945PM 533/667

Core Duo

Yonah

Core Duo T2050 1600 2048 533
Core Duo T2250 1733 2048 533
Core Duo T2350 1866 2048 533
Core Duo T2450 2000 2048 533

Core Duo T2300 1666 2048 667
Core Duo T2400 1833 2048 667
Core Duo T2500 2000 2048 667
Core Duo T2600 2166 2048 667
Core Duo T2700 2300 2048 667

Chipsets

943GML 533

945GM 533/667
945PM 533/667

Core 2 Duo

Merom-2M

Core 2 Duo T5300 1733 2048 533

Core 2 Duo T5500 1667 2048 667
Core 2 Duo T5600 1833 2048 667

Merom

Core 2 Duo T5200 1600 2048 533

Core 2 Duo T5500 1667 2048 667
Core 2 Duo T5600 1833 2048 667
Core 2 Duo T7200 2000 4096 667
Core 2 Duo T7400 2166 4096 667
Core 2 Duo T7600 2333 4096 667

Chipsets

943GML 533

945GM 533/667
945PM 533/667

 

i would get the socket M T5xxx CPU instead. The T7xxx CPU runs too hot.

 

They should run cooler really speaking as T7000 series is 45mm i think... but u can always undervolt with Core 2 Duos... very straightforward...

If i were u , i'd get a Clevo D900F... u get desktop power in form of Core i7 920 and upwards and also a GTX285M... u can also get 3 drives... if ur paying that much for a W700 , a D900F is a better option anytime...

 

Sounds good guys looking good for either a T7200 or T7600 ill probally go with the T7200 being lower priced.

 

That should* work.

There is no guarantee but it should. Anything over a T7200 would be a good way to go. The difference between a T7200 and T7600 will be relatively small, especially compared to the jump from your current cpu. I woudl go with whichever makes the most sense money-wise.

Be sure to look at wattage and voltage requirements though. If they vary greatly you could burn it up or drain your battery very fast. Just because the chipset supports that processor, it doesn't mean the bios will.


Good luck and let us know how it goes.

 

Thanks for that i will let you guys know when i get all the parts together.

I must say I am very impressed with the amount of help i recived here at Note Book Review I look forward to learning here as i go .

Thought it would be good to get all the advice i could get have a read.

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=339163

 

I also whant to have a crack at overclocking my laptop once i have put in my new CPU and ram What do u guys Think?

 

Find your mobo PLL and try using SetFSB to overclock your CPU, and check if TME is enabled or not.

 

ok im a newbe at over clocking do u have a program that does this for you?? sorry but i need a little bit more guidance please

 

If you are new at overclocking, I HIGHLY suggest you don't start with a laptops. I have seen so many guys burn up hardware who know what they are doing.

 

I agree with you 100%.

 

Id just like to over clock it just a bit nothing to crazy

 

ur more likely not going to be able to overclock then being able to.. Firstly , what notebook do u have? If u have a dell , Hp , Acer, Toshiba , Sony.. u won't be able to OC... if u do have an Asus , there is a chance.

 

He tells you that in his first post. It's a Sony Vaio VGN FE 25GP

 

Yeah cause they make it so it just can't be done no matter what... actually that's pretty far from the truth, it's called a BSEL pin-mod. It's not that hard. Too tired to go through the instructions on how.

 

it is dangerous though.. you might just brick ur notebook.. IMO , not worth doing. If u want to OC that much , get a notebook with an unlocked PLL like an Asus.

 

got any links where i can look at some whats the best ram

 

look on ebay , newegg.com , tigerdirect.com... just type notebook DDR2-800 RAM.. also try the NBR marketplace... RAM sometimes get's sold here..

 

Ok i just got back my refund for my ram. Been busy but got some cash so ready to move forward and uppgrade!!

Going to get 4gb can any one tell me with one is better??

Kingston 4096MB (2 x 2048MB) PC2-5300 667MHz DDR2 SODIMM RAM (KHX5300S2LLK2/4G) | Techbuy Australia

OR?

Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400 800MHz DDR2 SODIMM RAM - 5-5-5-18 (KHX6400S2LLK2/4G) | Techbuy Australia

Ill wait for some feedback before i make my final decision

Thanx guys

 

They are both the same quality. The only difference is the first one is 667MHz which is recommended for your system while the second one is 800MHz which isn't recommended for it and may not work for you.

When I looked up your model I get the same answer over and over that it only supports up to 2gigs of total memory using two 1gig sticks. You might want to check that out more thoroughly before you waste money on ram that you don't know will work in it or at least make sure they have a good return policy.

 

both should work and even the 800Mhz one will as it will automatically downclock to 667MHz... just get the cheaper one... and wow the price is absurd.. u might want to look for something cheaper on ebay or some other brand.. 165AUD for 4GB WTH...

 

Yes thats what i thought then i ran this scan with tells you your max memory-

SDRAM, DDR2 and DDR RAM memory upgrades from Crucial.com

I was told by sean 473 the DDR2-800 RAM will automatically downclock to 667MHz

 

Most 800MHZ memory will also contain chip data giving timings for 667MHZ

So the BIOS (not the RAM will set the MB to use those timings, which may not be particularly aggressive.

HOWEVER, from personal experience increased memory speed has been my least impressive way ever to spend upgrade money as you tend to get a faster rate with a longer latency . . and not much difference evident.

Regarding 4GB vs 2GB. If you don't already see yourself running out of memory then don't bother. If you do it may be worth buying the Service manual for $10 and see what memory configurations are listed as tested before putting down far more for 4GB of RAM. Crucial are in my experience generally good about refunds if you used their configurator and screen shotted your way through to an order marked XGB of RAM for your ABC123 and then it won't work.

 

thanks for your replies guys I have no memery at the moment so id like to get the max speed and capacity available for my current Sony VGNFE2GP So just trying to find that out hopefully i can run 4gb

 

just got of the phone with Sony and they said we can only advise u use the standerd parts it came with. No help at all.

just like to confirm that your sure my VGNFE25 GP can take 4gb is that right?

 

Because with different parts, the flowchart on their screen no longer works.

 

ok looks like MAX 2GB

VAIO VGN-FE25GP Memory - Upgrade Sony VGN-FE25GP VAIO Laptop Memory

Quote:
Maximum Memory 2.0Gb

Sony VAIO FE VGN-FE25GP - SonyStyle.com.hk

Quote:
512MB DDR2 SDRAM*2 (upgradeable up to 2GB) *3 (partially shared with video memory)*4

*2 If memory modules of the same capacity are installed to both of the two memory module slots, this computer will run in dual channel mode and provide better performance.
*3 By removing the pre-installed 512MB memory module and adding two 1GB memory modules.
*4 NVIDIA® TurboCache™ technology combines the size and bandwidth of video memory and dynamically available system memory for optimal system performance.