Any ideas when the G3 Intel SSDs will be available?

Hello All,

Title says it all. I am planning to move to SSDs and am waiting for the third generation Intel drives. Are there any news when they will be available?

Thank you.


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Most sources seem to say Q4 but Anandtech says Intel told him a model would be available mid year. The 80GB X25-V will come later, according to Anand.

 

Considering we're entering Q3, Q4 seems most probable.

 

hey yeah, G3 SSD's. i am also waiting for them to come out so that the G2 prices plummet, and maybe i can afford to buy a decent size one

 

Yeah. I'd love to slap an SSD in my current system.

 

Thanks guys!

+ rep for Phil & sgogeta4.

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i'd say Q3 but Q4 will be more likely..

 

Intel X25-M 320G G2 was never released. I'm still waiting for an Intel one with large capacity

 

I would love for Intel to release that, 320GB would be the "sweet spot" for my needs. Just gotta wait a little longer hopefully.

 

Thought the 320GB wasn't supposed to be released until G2.5 (like CPU refresh after initial launch of generation).

 

There is no G2.5.

I think with double the chips it would be very niche and too fast for their SATA2 controller.

G3 will be SATA3 and should drive the costs down again while making it cheaper.

 

but too bad notebooks won't be having SATA 3 untill sandy bridge and that is also an if...

 

Yeah but to be honest the max 250mb/sec is not going to be a huge let down lol.

Thats also best case, with smaller files you are no where near that and thats where the intel drives shine anyway.

 

SATA3 drives are backwards compatible with SATA2. Only in the rare circumstance of a sequential streams would it flood the SATA2 interface. So in the end even with SATA2 you should overall see 98% or better of the drives true potential for real life usage. Of course YMMV and if you do alot of large file manipulation often then you may miss that SATA 3 interface.

 

Any news on the release ?

 

Maybe when you revisit this thread in January 2011.

 

Any news on the release of this?

 

April according to some rumours... Intel Third Generation X25-M SSDs Set to Launch in Mid-April - Softpedia

 

I'm forced to wait for these drives to come out before buying my new laptop! They might not be worth it but i won't risk it !

 

So G2 -> G3:
Seq Write: 100MB/s -> 170 MB/s
Seq Read: 250MB/s -> 250MB/s
Random 4K R/W: 35K/8.6K IOPS -> 50K/40K IOPS

Verdict?

 

Just to clarify... these numbers aren't officialy confirmed whatsoever... but if they're true I really like them. Especially the random r/w.

 

But the G3 will definitely be better than the current Intel 510 series SSDs?

What's the difference?

 

"Definitely" is a strong term. It's more that they have different priorities. The 510 is designed for high sequential read/write numbers (on a SATA III interface!), and so it's random R/W performance suffers. The G3 is designed to be more "mainstream", so they stuck with SATA II and focused on the random R/W (and fixed the sequential write "issue" of the G1/G2). Really, half of the point of the G3 is not just improvement, but price reduction, which is why the G3 is designed to use "cheaper" 25 nm NAND (the 510 uses 34 nm).

 

What? The G3 is only SATAII? All along I thought it was supposed to be SATAIII

So the 510 is designed for servers?

Which of the two would be more expensive?

 

The 510s are available... check your favorite online store for prices. The G3 aren't officially announced yet, so naming prices would only be wild guessing.

 

510 is designed for those that need big numbers. g3 is for those that need a good balance of quality, performance (not high benches, but high overall usage performance), reliability and price. they're supposed to be quite cheap, compared to others so far.

and an ssd that more or less saturates the sata2 bus is still VERY fast.

 

I was set on intel 510 until i saw marvel on them, not saying its bad, but trying to get something similar to the G2 that been perfect for more than a year now. I just wanted a faster G2, specially faster random which the 510 dont deliever, im still hoping the G3 will furfill it, i guess in couple of months we will see.

 

Why can't they make the G3 SATAIII?

 

Rumors are placing their sequential writes/reads below the maximum Sata II can deliever, so there is no reason to have sata III.

 

they focus on having identical performance no matter the read/write type, so they push everything up to sata2 limits, but nothing beyond.

consider right now that singlethreaded random writes are up to 10 times slower than sequencial writes, but not with the g3.

so it's really like slow ram, doesn't matter what you write to it or read from it, it's all (more or less) the same. + all very low latency. the "slower" the ssd, the "faster" the access time can be made.

 

So for everyday activities such as WoW, movies and school work would the 120GB Intel X25 be a better purchase than the 510? Just went into phase 2 so I guess I have to make a quick decision.

Thanks in advance.

 

very rare cases call for huge sequential read/write throughput.

between 510 and G2, G2 is a better line for 90% of the case IMO.

 

So let me get this straight. Using Intel's 510 for everyday activities is noticeably slower compared to the G2 because the 510's random 4k read/writes is slower than the G2's???

But the 510 > G2 if I have to deal with huge files?

So much information, so little time.

**oops, I apologize for getting off topic.

 

no, not noticeably slower. More likely than not, very hard to notice.

SSD(unless very bad ones) are a class of its own that it really is not that easy to notice the performance difference between brands for typical usage(i.e. read heavy). I side with G2 because that is the most balanced one with known low failure rate and the extra $ for 510 IMO is not worth spending which also has unknown reliability history(even though it has the Intel stamp).

 

hey Chimp, are you using the 120GB G2? So you have had zero issues with this drive so far?

 

Mine is 80G, My colleagues and boss have the 120G(was not out when I purchased my 80). We all like it and zero issue.

It is very hard for me to find reported problem of X25M on the net. Sure there may be lemons but not systemic problems like I see for other brands.

 

Thanks for the quick response, its very helpful!

I'm curious though, what do you do daily on your drive? work related stuff? movies? any games? i'm just trying to get a perspective on this drive. I'm trying my hardest to come to a decision about switching out my 510 with the G2 lol....

the G2 is $40 cheaper than the 120GB 510 SSD.

 

At work, lots of visual studio project building and local SQL server. No games or movies(not even online ones as I disable flash in the browser).

Well, if it is only 40$, may be it is better to get the 510 assuming you may need the extra seq read/write throughput. That is under the assumption that it has the same level of reliability as G2.

For me reliability is #1 concern and once that is assured, I don't mind flipping a coin for whichever brand being thrown at me.

 

Intel Solid State Drive 320 Series to launch mid-April - VR-Zone.com

Codenamed 'Postville Refresh', the Intel Solid State Drive 320 Series is the long-awaited successor to the highly popular mainstream X25-M solid state drive (SSD).

Slated for a mid-April launch, the 2.5-inch 9.5mm 320 Series will use 25nm MLC NAND and is available in five capacities: 40GB, 80GB, 160GB, 300GB and 600GB.

The 320 Series will be pushed as 'the fast hard drive alternative' with performance and data reliability as two key focus areas.

Final performance figures and drive lifespan are not available yet, but we do expect them to be pretty much the same as rumored specifications so far:

* 250MB/sec read, 170MB/sec write
* Up to 50K and 40K IOPS for random 4KB read and write respectively
* 30TB to 60TB worth of 4KB random writes

 

you guys think theres a possibility of the 300gig being priced at under $350?

i think i'll buy it at anything under $399 at launch. if its more than that i may way for a sale.

 

If this is true they're going to be pretty expensive, however, there hasn't been any offical statement about pricing afaik.

 

This is what i expect to happen (pure speculation),

Size|MSRP|Retail
80gb|$150|$125
160gb|$300|$250
300gb|$500|$450
600gb|$1000|$900

 

350$? you joking right. I'll bet this this:

40GB = 80$
80GB =180$
160GB = 350$
300GB = 550$
600GB = 1300$

 

well didnt they go SATA II and lower performance so they can get higher capacities at lower prices?

if the 510 250gb is selling for $584 MSRP, which is a much higher performance 34nm drive, i dont see why these new 25nm drives would cost anything near that if their philosophy of high capacity/low price is to be believed.

and i think theyre gonna get that 600 gig one out for under a grand.

 

Don`t know if this is interesting at all but a hardware store in my country have listed the Intel 320 SSDs aka G3. But today they removed them from the list, but luckily sweclockers managed to PrtSc
They are actually cheaper than G2 drives...

Google Oversetter

 

I read somewhere Mid-April

 

Thanks for the info, prices seems like the current G2, i dont see the drop in price, probably will be cheaper in the US, but the 600gb seems extremly high, well above $1k that i expected it.

 

Nice finding!! +rep We'll see whether these prices are the real ones... Hope they're coming sooner than expected

 

160 GB G3 is like mentioned in the article cheaper than G2. The rest is identical to the price of the current generation. Cannot really complain that we get better drives for the same price
And you are probably correct that the drives will be cheaper in US. Electronics have always been a little more expensive here in Norway compared to US.

A rough currency conversion gives:

G2:
80 GB: $220
120 GB: $294
160 GB: $491

G3:
60 GB: $124
120 GB: $286
160 GB: $392
300 GB: $712
600 GB: $1426

 

You're a bit of with your conversions afaik... I get about 630$ for the 300GB drive, or am I wrong? The prices on your link are in SEK right?


EDIT: Nevermind, I messed up, Cloudfire is absolutely right.