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    Any last minute advice for someone about to apply Artic Silver 5 to CPU and GPU?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by RainMotorsports, May 20, 2009.

  1. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    Ive got about 4 to 6 more temp benches todo with my new cooler and I will be ready to swap the T9600 in. I have read and understand all the instructions on the arctic silver website.

    One thing im worried about is the GPU, last time when i pulled the cpu heatpipe I couldnt get the GPU one off. The CPU thermal paste was hard as a rock the bulk of it stuck to the heatpipe. I assume the GPU one is hard as a rock as well.

    I would rather do the gpu now as doing it later makes me redo the cpu.
     
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    I have already applied to my CPU&GPU and it surely helps. I can say that the average CPU temp went down around 6-8 C.

    Just apply a very tiny amount that will barely cover the whole die area. Since AS5 is slightly capacitive, never spill it onto any circuitry. That's it...

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    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    Heh with the cooler the GPU max's 5C less already and the cpu whom overclocked used to hit 60 to 65C @ 100% load and idles at any settings with or without cooler at 44/42 Cooler + Undervolt + Overclock it hits 48/50 @ 100% load for 15 minutes!

    The new cpu is hotter but the underclock and cooler obviously a great pair. Hopefully AS5 adds to the mix.
     
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    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    Nah thanks lol. I dont get any higher temps in real use then i do in WPrime thats good enough for me. The intel test most likley stresses the FPU and Cache more then other methods.
     
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    WPrime is not superior than the one I posted in terms of stressing the CPU. If you run each of them for like 10 mins and check the max temps you will see the difference..

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    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Remember to stress both the CPU and GPU at the same time.
     
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    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    Yes however id not like to take the cpu past the temps it ever see's. Running GTA 4 it almost gets to the temp of wprime. I have never matched or exceeded wprime in any normal benching. Im trying to test within the normal ranges of the machine not actually blow it up.

    Which = fail. With the cpu at max any gpu testing is hampered. Easy way to spot this is run ati tool and wprime at the same time ati tool goes from 450 fps down to 29. A more expensive way of testing this is running GTA4 for PC on any dual core rig with any modern gpu.

    I benched crysis 5 loop with a consistant 85C on the OC/DOX and a 10C raise in CPU temp did not affect the gpu temp at all.

    During HDD temp testing i did use wprime and ati tool to raise the case temps and then started benching the drive speed.
     
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    Have you tried lowering the priority for Wprime and increase the prioity for the gpu stress tool?
     
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    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    I have not and its a damn shame i cant seperate the ai/physics priority in GTA 4 LMAO. I will give that a shot sometime but yeah separate programs would respond well to a change in thread priority.

    I think all i have left todo is 2 cpu temp tests off the cooler and im ready to swap. I will be doing a thorough review on the NC 2000 collecting plenty of data. Though my original intent was to make a small thread combined with my cpu upgrade and cooler experience but i might just do the cooler as its own?
     
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    BTW. make sure you have the proper tools. You might have to bend the heatpipe a little bit or make a shim. Sometimes, CPU and GPU die are not the same height. Applying a thin layer of thermal compound instead of the stock thermal pad (thick and soft), might not be able to make contact between the die and heatpipe. Thus in this case, applying AS5 might actually raise your temperature.
     
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    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    The GPU and CPU are on different heat pipes entirley. Except for the thermal rubber holding the two fins sections together the CPU pipe and the fan assembly comes off clean without touching the gpu pipe.
     
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    NVM..then. At least your laptop's designer isn't as stupid as the person who designed Acer Aspire One netbook. LOL

    The heatsink is a bare sheet of aluminum with no fins. The thermal material wasn't properly appied as well.
     
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    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    I wasnt sure at first but yeah the Fan is in the fin assembly attached to the CPU/Northbridge pipe and then to the outside of that towards the edge of the case is the fins for the gpu pipe which is attached by what seems like thermal rubber.

    Here is the inside of my notebook - http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww285/ClutchX2/G50VTX5-INSIDE-F.jpg
    More in my review but not much i never posted the pic of the cpu pipe off.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Where's what my laptop's heatsink look link, of course minus the actual chipset heatsink. Basically, a piece of sheet alumium covering the chipset and the CPU.
     
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    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    LMAO, yeah i like my laptop easy access to most stuff. 6 Screws and you can get to the cpu (after the bottom is off). They were nice enough to put foam in the second drive bay to support a drive without the bracket which they dont stock.

    You have to take the laptop apart to get to where the bluetooth would be and the Extra Mini PCI-E slot for the tv tuner that was never put in US G50's isnt accessible as well. In fact we didn't know about the slot till someone recently took theirs apart its not in the disassembly manual.
     
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    I have to take apart the whole laptop in order to upgrade the ram. That means, unscrewing all screws, unscrew motherboard from the case, turn motherboard over, add ram, then put everything back. In fact, upgrading anything requires me to take the whole thing apart.

    My laptop has the worest case design possible, but fortunely, I'm pretty good at taking apart things and put it back in one piece.
     
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    If your having trouble getting the heatsink off turn the computer on for a minute then turn if to help soften the thermal pad to get it off easier.
     
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    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    Thats a great idea thank you.
     
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    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    Finished YES! Now just to wait for the break in.