Anybody got a Skylake HQ/HK CPU yet? I want guinea pig-- I mean testers.

THANK YOU.

That means that the TDP sliders are still pointless. Now we need another few users to make certain of this, as your ASUS model isn't top end and it could be artificially locked.

 

Prime uses AVX2 and heats up something insane, probably temperature throttling. In any situation can't drive that CPU with that small notebook cooling regardless. Isn't any point.

Point would be to get someone with the HK and then had them tweak it with XTU using something at least the Alienware 15 R2 or Alienware 17 R3 that has cooling to probably handle it. Got there and beg some of the people that have it already, there are several that do if you read the refresh thread.

 

Scores?

It helps to post the laptop make/model / CPU model / speed / cores multi for each post as it's tough to follow along and remember who has what running at what settings. Many of us turn off Sig's (too big), and so don't have context for short posts.

 

First Attempt: 6.94
Second Attempt: 6.95
Third Attempt: 6.95

Compared to this:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-Notebook-Processor.149420.0.html

It's below the median.

 

Similar as your laptop but with old i7-4720Hq. 7.15 in Cinebench 11.5 http://laptopmedia.com/review/asus-...-rog-notebook-but-it-doesnt-feel-like-it/#cpu

 

I WANT it to use AVX2. I want it to draw PLENTY of power. I need to know if it can handle its TDP load or not, or if the HQ chips are TDP limited. So far, his chip seems to be TDP limited. I don't care whether or not a notebook can handle the heat of P95; and that's not the point of these tests, and in my OP I've listed that I expect anyone here should know that their notebook should be able to handle some decent temps.

I want HK users to check too, but the HQ chips and the HK chips are different, in their nature. I have posted for the Alienware users to come here, and they have not. More correctly, one person has, and has since stopped replying for basically this whole week. @DivineAura is the only person who's completed the tests successfully, and I'm eternally thankful, however he is but one sample and using him alone to judge the entire line of HQ and HK chips from BGAtel right now would be stupidity on my part. I can't do anything if people won't come offer their time. Or, someone can send me 3-4 different laptops and have me test things. Which nobody is going to do~.

 

You scare new testers with your test requirements . If not Hk/Hq processors are overclocked, so is a Wprime 1024 stress test enough to disclose throttling. None stock HK/HQ processors are able to execute the stress test under 2.5 minutes. Most likely use these Bga processors far over 3 minutes

 

I gave a disclaimer!

 

Well my old i7 2670QM went to 99 °C and my i7 640UM reached 105 °C before it's no longer scary lol.

 

Several tests only with 3DMark Fire Strike because they believe that this benchmark test is enough to absolve hardware for possible throttling.

 

Why don't you just buy a 6820HK if it is so important, Alienware is readily available and you may have have it built and shipped to you by now, to satisfy your own desires.

 

Feel free to donate me a couple thousand $$ to get one. I've got no job and I'm getting the tests done to make sure my Mobile CPU information guide is up to date on the HQ chips. Just like Unclewebb isn't going to buy a skylake-CPU-using machine just to update his FREE throttlestop program, I'm not going to scrounge or take a loan or something for money to check a 6820HK just to see whether or not it throttles due to TDP to update my FREE guide.

 

Get a job then.

 

So you're trying to tell me I should:

- Magically find a job
- Save money for laptop
- Buy inferior laptop to my current laptop that I don't want
- Overclock CPU
- Never use laptop again, or pay big chunk of cash to ship it back overseas to return it

JUST to update my FREE mobile CPU guide?

Exactly where is your train of thought here? By the same logic I might as well tell you to just go buy that laptop you want to get, see if it works, and if it doesn't just leave it there and not use it again. Why are you trying to get help from other people? And you're using it to compile information mostly only useful to yourself too, unlike me who's trying to make sure of things that could be good information for others.

 

Will you give this brilliant advice to those people who create eg; mod vbios for others crippled/non-original hardware on their own free time as well? Should these people buy lots of hardware for testing so that you and other people can have a better experience of your precious bought hardware? Maybe you should give this advice to many more also. For example; Ask others to buy the same hardware that you have so that these people can help you solve a hardware problem you struggle with. Yeees.
Are you not interested in seeing several tests of hardware you want to buy? Do you trust everything others say blindly? Many test sites are doing a bad job. It's no wonder many people buy garbage when they do not really know what they are buying.

 

Get a brain. Right now it's your butthole making wet farting noises trying to pass as coherent speech.

 

Do you mean, like his Big Brother Bob?



Why do that, when Life's been Good?, it's all about the data collection...



And, the Magic that comes from putting it all together.

 

I'll be running through the steps later tonight. My details:
Dellienware 17 R3, I7-6820HK, GTX 980m, 16 GB DDR4, 1 TB PCIe boot, UHD display but I'll drop it down to 1080 for testing.

I went through Intel XTU and worked the settings up in stages to 4.3 but noticed all changes over 3.6 had zero impact on benchmarks and per the utility the core frequency never rose over 3.59. Initially the benchmark score was 1095 marks. After increasing core and cache speed it maxed out at 1154 marks. Pretty piss poor performance IMHO.

I did not mess with the BIOS settings as others reported shakey performance using that method - and inability to get all cores in the same boat so to speak.

 

I ran TS Bench and noted the Package Power was around 50.x for 8 seconds and then dropped down to 45 / 44.x for the rest of the test. In XTU I can increase the Turbo Boost Time window up to 100 seconds. I'm already having an issue with this laptop running hotter at idle than others with the new R3 so I'm hesitant to get too carried away with this testing until I hammer down the temp issues. I might have Dell (Unisys probably) come out and re-paste the heat sink(s) to see if that will resolve. Unfortunately others have already had to return their R3 due to thermal issues as well so I hope it doesn't come to that.

 

Thank you =D

You probably were current limit throttling. Turn on the feature in XTU's window reporting (there should be a small blue wrench at the top right of the section of XTU where it shows core speed and TDP and such) as well as thermal and power throttle, that'll help diagnose the issue. XTU's benchmark is pretty brutal on current limit, so it needs to be raised to 256A to get no throttle. If you can raise the limit to 256A via XTU, do so and see if it throttles anymore. If it does not, then we know current limit can be raised and you can continue the testing.

Does adjusting the turbo boost time window to 100 seconds make a difference? And if it does, can you set the limit to 0s or see if your BIOS has an option to ignore the turbo boost power lock? I won't ask anything else being adjusted in the sBIOS as you're not comfortable with it. When Dell comes and repastes the system and you are comfortable with your temps, it'd be great if you could do more. Any clarification you wish to ask, feel free to ask me. It's best you quote me (the first post is fine, you can substitute it for -TEXT- or something; I just want the alert to show up on NBR) so I know you need help.

 

Try to obtain ICD, Gelid Extreme or Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste so that the technician from Dell can use one of these grease instead of the garbage from Dell. Order/buy tomorrow. Sooner the better.

 

Agreed, Dell paste is junk.. Any of those above 3 pastes are good and not that difficult to apply..

 

One of the last two bumps I'll ever make on this thread. If I can't get testers it's all pointless.

 

cmon people, man up and put ur hardware to the test! i know its hard to admit when uve bought junk, but theres no way around the truth!

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I imagine we will have a lot more people with one of these processors within the next 30 days.

 

if some nof the xps 15 threads are any indication , everyone seems to be waiting for their new laptops

 

Many alienware users have and are testing their CPUs... but they don't want to come here and help. They're fine with the limited usage time as Firestrike and most CPU-based benchmarks work just fine in that allotted time window. Most of the users here have stopped helping before I was finished, though one with a 6700HQ and an ASUS did a lot for me, thankfully.

Also, the XPS laptops are not going to be good indicators of a laptop that's designed to cool or to undergo these kinds of tests. Since nobody is in the business of sending me a P670RE3, an AW17 R3, an ASUS G752VY and a GT72, both with HQ and HK chips (I.E. 8 laptops in total), then I can't get proper testing done. And even if someone DID send them, I wouldn't even be able to pay to send them back, as the shipping is international, so I'd need a pre-paid UPS label for each (or maybe to bunch them all into one huge box).

 

lol id love to see u standing in front of that box with a bigass devil's grin on your face

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I'd be like
"UPS. I have a package to send."

"What is it?"

"8 laptops."

"Okay, what's the weight?"

"Like 60 pounds"

"There's no way they weigh that much!"

"Want to see my 10 pound notebook from 2013?"

"Oh. It's YOU. Ok, We remember what to do. We'll get the big box out"

"Good. Gooood." *rubs hands together evilly*

 

Yeah, the 6820HK http://www.casesam.co.uk/ may be shipping yet.

 

I've seen no less than 5 people who own one in the Alienware 17 R3 section alone.

 

Don't give up hope yet

I have a 6820HK in a P650RA delivering by Wednesday/Thursday (if that's not too late). I've heard good news about the cooling and I upgraded it to Arctic MX-4 thermal paste. Hopefully it won't have these problems that the Aliens are having.

Kinda seem this thread is the reason @ octiceps got me to get the CPU. Cheeky b******

 

I work in mysterious ways...

 

I have an Alienware R3 with the 6700hq. I'm expecting to get another one this week with the 6820hk. I'm happy to test anything you want just tell me what to do. I'm very tech savvy but new to overclocking (or even benchmarking, really)

 

Well the first post in the thread contains all the data you need for monitoring and benchmarking, if you could follow the instructions there, that would be fantastic.

That'd be awesome =D. You would probably need IC Diamond or Gelid GC Extreme or Arctic Céramique 2 instead of MX-4 though.

 

I see. The MX-4 is the only one my supplier offers. Would probably re-paste down the line with a better one

 

With the Alienware 17 R3 i7-6700hq, assuming I'm looking at the right things, I've seen no throttling. I ran Handbrake, Prime95, XTU benchmark, and TSBench 8 threads 1024.

I'll do some more tests with settings tweaked in XTU when I get time.

 

If you could show me the TDP you're using up though, especially in P95 and XTU Benchmark, (screenshots are key) then that'd be great.

From what I've seen with the 6700HQ chips, they're clocked so low and the removal of FIVR has gotten their TDP consumption down to a point where it doesn't cross its 45W limit, rather than the chip being capable of passing that limit. Also, can you tell me if in XTU you are allowed to raise the turbo boost sliders? Based on Haswell and Broadwell, 6700HQ should have a +200MHz allowance for OCing.

 

screenshot attached with handbrake run, i7-6700hq, default settings

 

screenshot i76700hq, default settings, prime95 run. This what you are looking for?

 

and these are my settings available in XTU

 

bye the way to get it to run consistently above 45W I had to change a BIOS setting for High Performance CPU "enabled'. Then it runs consistently above 55W . . . othewise it jumps up to about 57W then immediately comes down to about 45W and stays there . ..

 

bios setting for high performance cpu, interesting! havent seen that one before in a stock bios

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No idea why Handbrake isn't using your CPU at 100% there, but okay.

This is better, but I can't see how long P95 has been running there unfortunately. Could you try again and keep P95 in the shot? How long does it hold the 56W TDP for? Any time limit?

So no overclocks on 6700HQ. Interesting.

Overall so far it looks like at least with your chip (maybe with the AWs in general) TDP isn't artificially limited... if that's the case, lowering the clockspeeds is pointless and they gimped performance ON PURPOSE for no real reason. Your information is very valuable though. Think I could get you to try Linpack and see if you get the CPU to throttle? You'll need current limit set to 256A via XTU to not throttle. If you don't want to do it, that's fine, I won't force you. I'm just really interested to see what we can pull out of the machines. Also, I'll suggest setting CPU TDP to about 100W just to be safe.

Now if other people with the alienwares and the HQ chips can work, I'll have some good information. I'd love to be able to tell someone that a HQ or HK chip will suffice if they cannot afford the desktop CPU-using chips but need CPU power on the go.

 

How do I set the cpu tdp to 100W? This laptop is getting returned. It has some keyboard backlight issues. So I'm not over concerned about it.

And I ran Prime 95 for well over 10 minutes. CPU temp never went above 85C. No throttle reasons showed up.

 

Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but with Linpack, cores go to 100% but package power drops to 25-35w from the very begining . . .

 

Can you use Xtu and put all power limits + clock speed on in monitoring Windows under stress tests ?

 

Here is a screenshot. I don't see any throtteling . . .

 

@D2 Ultima - you may want to re-run all the benchmarks again on Skylake CPU's, after Windows 10 updates and enables Intel's 'Speed Shift' technology, sometime this month:

Examining Intel Skylake 'Speed Shift': More Responsive Processors
http://anandtech.com/show/9751/examining-intel-skylake-speed-shift-more-responsive-processors

 

The "turbo boost power max" and "turbo boost short power max" are your TDP limits.

You need to raise "processor current limit" to 256A. You have it accessible in XTU, I saw it. Otherwise Linpack shouldn't work. But I think you probably set up Linpack incorrectly somehow. I'll need to upload the version I have I guess, then.

Linpack is supposed to look and act like this: