Anybody got a Skylake HQ/HK CPU yet? I want guinea pig-- I mean testers.

I have time to make changes but the 200w psu is the highest

 

In that case, definitely opt for the highest (200W).

What options are available for the thermal paste and how much?

 

just mx4 or standard .. mx4 11€ more

 

If you plan to repaste yourself (highly recommended) you could just opt for the standard paste, save the 11€ and use that to buy real thermal paste that is much superior than what they are offering.

Traditional Paste: Go with GELid Extreme.

Liquid Metal: Go with either Cool Labs Liquid Ultra and/or Grizzly Conductonaut.

 

omg, best to stick to standard and use those 11€ for a good paste aftermarket. 11€ for one application of mx4 is way too expensive. consider that mx4 IS basically the lowend standard paste so what IS their standard paste, mayonnaise?

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Rather say mx4 fits best in the trash can!! JUNK!!

 

I red various review where they say that mx4 is one of the best out there ... very strange

 

We've been repasting for a long time...MX4 is old news and on par with egg whites...maybe mustard. Pretty close.

Very few reviews test for long term performance. Peanut butter, toothpaste, ketchup etc...will do okay when it's fresh and actually provide some thermal conductivity when it's fresh. What counts are the real results from real people who have long term data...

This is why I recommended: GELid Extreme, because I know it holds up well long term.

As for Liquid Metal, I've never had to change mine out and the temps hold strong for a long time.

Save the money and buy real thermal paste as I've suggested above You should repaste it yourself as well.

 

Do not just look at the temp result. Lifespan is as important. Forget other standard conventional paste than ICD, Gelid Extreme Or Grizzly Kryonaut. Everything else = Garbage on laptop hardware. Remember cooling in a laptop is something else than in a desktop!!

Also read http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...x-980-overheating.789202/page-5#post-10218974

 

thanks I will follow your advice .. I never did a repaste so I'm a little scared
I hope I can make it

Thank you very much for the link

 

You'll be fine. There are a ton of info lurking in these forums that will help you feel more confident. It's a fun process...not that difficult either.

 

is this the one you are referring to?

https://www.amazon.it/Gelid-TC-GC-0...7_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=HC8P4RFWSAKS4WMCNDS0

 

try to find a liquid metal paste such as conductonaut or coolaboratory liquid ultra

 

I found it in my country there is only one shop that has the conductonaut but only sells 1gr .. is it enough for one application?
should I apply it on the GPU too?

 

Both, you also need electrical tape.

Electrical tape: Scotch 33+ to shield the surrounding components: solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/EMDCI/Home/Products/ProductCatalog/~/Scotch-Super-33-Vinyl-Electrical-Tape?N=5432987+3294355633&rt=rud


See iunlock's link for application guide, 1G is enough for both of the CPU and GPU (you should use the whole tube I think): http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...t-vs-cool-laboratory-liquid-ultra-pro.791489/

To spread it around, use gentle circular motion.

 

I didn't know that I had to spread it around usually on youtube I see that it spreads by itself when you put the heatsink on

 

You can't with liquid metal.

 

Yes that will be enough.

 

MX-4 is garbage. I just had to come in and add to this after everybody else did because it's that bad for laptops. It's a bit better for desktops because the mounting pressure is higher, but it's still garbage.

Those should have 230W adapters... where are you buying from?

 

pcspecialist

 

Think you can afford a HIDevolution system? You could get a Prema mod there and you'll get a 230W adapter as far as their website says. Also they offer Liquid Ultra too. Your only issue would probably be the tax on imports/shipping.

 

unfortunately I already paid ... but can't I use the prema bios if I buy it for pc specialist ? also what are the drawbacks of using the 200w psu instead of 230?

 

Hey man, don't let these guys herd you into doing a re-paste, certainly not before your laptop is even built, or you have had a chance to turn it on and see how it runs built out of the box.

The normal way of handing CPU heat issues is to let the vendor that you *paid* do it for you. Why would you disassemble sight unseen a new untested laptop and re-paste it??

Let it run for a while, weeks, to get used to it and see how it operates under many loads and uses, get an idea what the thermal characteristics are first, before you decide it's somehow inadequate and needs improvement.

Talk to your builder about your concerns for cooling, ask them what options they offer for cooling compounds, and ask them to please test in house at idle and under load what the temperatures are.

They should be happy to do that, and send you the results, and hold shipping until you confirm you are happy with the temperatures. If you aren't happy with the results, talk to them about it, and if needed ask them to fix it before shipping.

You shouldn't do re-pasting yourself unless you have pulled apart numerous desktops to re-paste them.

You shouldn't break into the learning curve of complex mechanical and electronic component handling, disassembly, re-pasting, and reassembly on a new $XXXX laptop.

Make your learning mistakes on something less expensive.

And, Liquid Metal is *dangerous*, there have been experienced people that have flubbed the application and gotten globs of that merciless conductive evil substance on their motherboards, killing their laptop.

Please don't use a conductive thermal compound on your first re-paste, and certainly not on a brand new perfectly functional laptop.

 

The 200W is the best PSU you can get for the P650 I think...

As for Prema BIOS, you can always give Prema a donation and I'm sure he'll be happy to share the BIOS with you when its ready!

 

You should still be able to return it no questions asked, but that's entirely up to you.

Last generation prema mods never were released for free, because of some unsavory individuals. I cannot guarantee you will get a Prema mod without getting from one of the partners, but if it costs too much to buy from HID I would completely understand.

The drawbacks are the overclockability of the CPU/GPU.

Both LPC-Digital and HIDevolution have 230W on the P65x/P67x systems. If he's getting sub-230W he's getting something wrong.

 

guys, lets pump the brakes here a bit i would NOT recommend him to go metal on his very first friggin repaste eva! let him try GC Extreme, ICD or Kryonaut first

 

If the company is going to put it on for you...

 

thenk you for letting me know this shop .. the guys are very kind and helpful
ok I should get full refund and already got a quote from hid evolution
I will buy it tomorrow and they offer liquid metal on CPU and ic diamond on gpu ... it would actually cost me less than buying it in europe
the only drawback is the us warranty but i have the possibility to extend it in the next 90 days.

I wanted to ask you your opinion about the screen dimension ... would you prefer a 17" over the 15" even because of a better cooling factor?

 

Go for 17" Bigger the better said the girl JK... At least for notebooks!!

 

hidevolution has international warranty, I suggest you buy that

ask them if they can give you NBR discount and cash payment discount

also possible to ask them for liquid metal on CPU + GPU

as far as I'm aware, the 15" and 17" P-series from clevo has the same motherboard and cooling, so you don't have to worry

 

Yes to CLLU on both the CPU and GPU.

Would they do it? I can understand why they wouldn't ... but no ICD for me.

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is this IC diamond that bad?
they want 30$ for the CLLU on the CPU only I think another 30 for the GPU it seems too much to me

 

i would recommend CPU, but GPU is not absolutely necessary. ICD is known to scratch silicon dies and is thus avoided by some users. although i havent heard of or seen a single case where those scratches did anything whatsoever to the functionality of the respective chip.

btw, was there any particular reason why u returned your P751ZM? juuuuuust curious, u know... @Sig

 

you can haggle with them to do CLLU on the GPU also, try with email

 

I am sad that people complain about the ICD. No other conventional paste have the same life span. + This excellent thermal paste provides excellent temperature results. And if you have a uneven/warped heatsink... You can't get a better paste for fixing lower hardware temp with a flawed heatsink. I would say it is no. 1 of the standard paste sold today. Only Liquid metal is a better choice!!

 

It's all subjective. I personally like liquid metal on both CPU and GPU.

I've had best experience with GELID Extreme when it comes to traditional pastes over others. It lasts a long time and does not degrade.



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Gelid Extreme hold under 1 week in prolonged bench with my Hotwell 4930Mx

 

Long story ... I bought it from an italian company called RaionBook.
I asked for the i7 4790 and they sent me a i5 something .. I don't remember exactly .. so I sent the pc back to have the new CPU mounted by them and when my pc returns the speakers sounded like overdrive .. the audio was broken ... I think I asked about this on the form and you jaybee83 was among the people who answered me .. anyway I sent the pc back again and when they returned it to me the audio was still broken and the CPU temperature was 95C in idle ..

so I said stop ... i don't want to have to do with RaionBook anymore and since there were no games that I liked at that moment I waited for pascal ..

 

good choice

that machine isn't compatible with pascal

 

oi! no disrespect for the original batman here!

thats a horror story @HardCore88, totally understandable that u went that route.

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The extra cost for CLU is due to the difficulty in application, and them taking responsibility for the failure if at some point some oozes out and shorts a component - you are covered under their warranty.

It's worth it to have someone else do the application and support it

 

Heck, I'd charge min. $100 for LM application if I were to offer the service. With my OCD it'll taken hours, because I'd prep, tape and cut things to precision, all the while making sure the LM is perfect.

I am curious if they even use electrical tape? Hmm. ..very curious now. If it's backed by their warranty, I couldn't imagine them not taking the precaution in doing so.

Having LM being covered under warranty is rare and amazing. I'd pay for it easily because if they do a crappy job of it, I'll just redo it and still be covered *hint* The extra cost is well worth it for the warranty alone. Nevermind the LM, that's just a bonus in my books.

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