Anyone tried the GTX 1070 from gecube?

So did anyone here try the GTX 1070 from gecube? It seems extremely solid and has a default TDP of 150W (blue PCB), it's not the same as the GTX 1070M they offer as well which are only at 95W (green PCB).

Would be interesting in knowing the compatibility of the card, not that it only works on AW systems for instance.

 

I do have plans for it down the line, but am sticking to a 980M considering its literally half the price

 

To be fair, it's literally twice the performance :'D

 

There is also a ton of standard MXM3.0b format 1070's floating on ebay, black PCB, with small Nvidia logo near the contacts, they say that its compatible with tons of laptops, but no idea about its origins..

One example:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Nvidia...h=item2cdd7c974f:g:VgYAAOSwNo9b0ulz:rk:3:pf:0

 

These cards need to be voltage unlocked.

Unless you can TDP mod them and then throw 1.125v into them and 250W, I find them of dubious quality.
The MSI 1070 and Clevo cards can handle it. But no one has found a way to hard mod the GPU voltage.

 

yeah i've seen thoose, they seem to be maxwell PCBs with a slapped on pascal GPU on them.

 

That one has a Dell part number decal on it. So, it's probably a decent GPU if it is a Dell variant of 1070. I'd be more likely to trust that one for durability over a Gecube GPU. It would be interesting to know what system that is used in since all of their laptops are BGA filth now. Wouldn't surprise me if they were using that in one of their cut-down proprietary desktop pieces of crap or maybe even an AIO desktop.

 

I'm also curious since I can't find anything on that dell part #.

 

@Mr. Fox i caught the Dell part sticker on it too.

How much you wanna bet it’s a Dell P5000 flashed with a 1070 VBIOS, and the seller is just calling it a GTX 1070, or used a P5000 base and just swapped the core with a 1070 core? I wouldn’t put it past some people. Only visible changes are the part number sticker and the core label

Dell P5000:


Update: not a dell part. Very strange, perhaps an overseas market only part.

 

Who knows. Nothing surprises me any more. Just like the LTT video of the BGA CPU some place in China put an IHS on top of and soldered to a PCB to fit a desktop socket, and it works normally. This might be a similar technical stunt.

It may work fine, too. Just like the 980M mod @Khenglish did with the desktop 980 core worked fine.

 

Looks like 1070 core on a P5000 PCB. Which isn't a bad thing, I mean a P5000 costs like $800+ on ebay whereas this is $540.

Cheaper alternative for people who wanna upgrade. Just wondering how reliable and which vBIOS it's using.

 

I remember seeing that BGA to LGA mod much earlier in the year, and they only just covered it. Those mods make sense to me personally, but my thoughts on this are that its just a new 1070 from some brand that is putting a fake Dell P/N, or that its a P5000 with half the VRAM and 1070 BIOS flashed. Who knows. I'M more interested in the Blue GeCube 1070, its likely similar in overall power specs, but has a SLI connector in a standard MXM 3B

 

Pretty sure its just a maxwell PCB with pascal GPU on it.

 

As far as I've seen , Dell's previous cards were all either Green or Blue.

The black PCB has been seen only on the Quadro P series. It would make sense if it's a P5000 PCB.

 

You're right, it's actually the quadro PCB. So in a nutshell they slapped a GTX 1070 core onto a P5000 PCB. Or renamed the P5000 to GTX 1070, which means those are legit cards.

 

not likely they just renamed it, since you can clearly see that the chip shown in the ebay listing is a G-type (Geforce) instead of Q-type (Quadro). unless, of course, they did some photoshop magic ^^

thats what i like about the quadro cards, they adhere to the exact same standard layout as the previous 980M and older cards. cuz even with the standard mxm 3.0b cards from zotac, gecube, etc ull have to dremel around the heatsink to make it fit. no need for these quadro-style cards

in any case, anyone interested checking out the blue gecube 1070 and/or the black Dell PCB 1070?

 

I have a guy who is trying the black PCB, I'll keep you updated on a thread later one.

 

I'm curious who's part number that belongs to really, it's not dell america's but uses a dell naming scheme

 

could be an alternative offering for dell zbook workstations, those are models that normally use pascal based quadro cards with that exact layout and PCB color. then again, who would offer workstation laptops with geforce cards...?

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what the heck is a dell zbook lol, maybe you meant precision? regardless, the precision is the only model that gets the black pascal quadro mxm cards

 

The newer Precision’s no longer use standard mxm cards. I’m also curious about that part #

 

yep, threw together dell precision and HP zbook no matter though, both lines use the standard mxm quadro cards

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Even now with soldered CPU's, they continue to do so. Amazing.

 

afaik these standard mxm sized gpus (basically exclusively quadro based) are commonly used in medical, automation and military usage scenarios, so you can imagine what kind of pressure the companies in these sectors put on Nvidia to continually provide them with easily upgradeable hardware for their existing systems. naturally, nvidia doesnt mind as long as they get their ridiculous premiums for their services

in any case, lets hope this will last for a few years still, at least giving us some (albeit expensive) gpu upgrade options i for one am eyeballing a standard mxm P5200

 

The current-gen ZBook 17 is still MXM (ZBook 15 is BGA), but Dell uses DGFF instead of MXM on their Precision 7x30 line now.

 

do you have a link for that DGFF? what's exactly?

 

https://www.laptopmain.com/dell-precision-7530-disassembly/

 

wow that is some weird ass pcie connector right there

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Yeah, the GPU daughter board is connected to the rest of the mainboard by 3 of those rectangular pieces with a screw on each end as seen in the last pic. Interesting to say the least. I guess this proprietary form factor was the only way Dell could keep the system as thin as it is and still have swappable (not necessarily upgradeable) graphics.

 

i am trying to decide what 1070 mxm to buy for my m17x R4 . after 2 weeks of reading threads and sourcing ebay and other markets i have come to the conclusion that :
these dell cards with the black pcb do actually work with our alienwares. they are also plug and play (their bioses work) although they work better with an msi vbios flashed.
they are said to be at the speeds of maxq 1070s though... they bench like 10% lower than the full 150w msi 1070s or the zotac 1070mxms.

so maybe gecube 1070 150w card is the solution to our problems? normal mxm form factor and full 150w speed. how can we buy one is the million dolar question?

also the gecube 120w 1070 works with its vbios directly in alienwares

 

Do you have the link to the 980 mod,I would like to read about it,thanks

 

basically two options: ebay and/or taobao

 

so i found a way to get the gecube 150w card from taobao (though an agent site)
the only hessitation i have is wether its vbios will work with my laptop from the go.
because i dont have an external flasher so i wont be able to flash it the msi vbios (wich usually works in 1070 mxm cards)

 

looking forward to your report!

 

External flasher isn't hard to buy.
Just grab a Skypro (skypro II is more expensive), Pomona 5250 clip, Male to female jumper cables for hooking up the Pomona clip to the 1.8v adapter, and a 1.8v adapter from various sources.
Skypro is easy to use and supports a LOT of IC's and their software is updated often.

Cables are confusing so I'll link an example of exactly what you need:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EV70C78/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_10?smid=A2WWHQ25ENKVJ1&psc=1

 

Hi, any news about those standard format 1070's that claim to be from Dell?

Also, I have been browsing Taobao, and I have a doubt, there seems to be 3 versions of the MSI 1070, Qualification Sample, Rev 1.0 and Rev 1.2, the price of the rev 1.0 is currently around 370€, and the Rev 1.2's sit in the 480-520€ ballpark, what is the difference between them, its the dread throttle that makes them stutter like mad?

 

From what I remember, the "Dell 1070" is built quite well, I believe a user upgraded his M17X R4 with one.
QS I have no clue about, 1.0 is likely the cursed Vortex model, 1.2 is from the newer model MSI laptops

 

I think it was @RMSMajestic that had a Qualification Sample, it says that on the die(laser engraved), but physically they are all the same.

Thanks for the quick reply, gonna give the Alienware subforums a look around.

 

you can flash the vBIOS between the two, no big differences.

 

Between the Rev 1/1.2 or between rev 1.0 and the Qualification Sample?

 

yeah

 

Well which one is it?

 

between all. If there's any major hardware differences then it won't make sense costwise

 

Would you happen to know if any of the models are unstable?