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    Back-up Drive dies..

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by hydra, May 27, 2013.

  1. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    My 2T WD Caviar Green went from healthy to stone dead overnight. LOL, this was a refurb that WD sent me from the first failure. Like my Seagates, I noticed that these consumer drives can run hot (65C) during long file encoding sessions. The WD Mybook cases are well ventilated but like my Seagates, without small fan, they will get hot.

    Most of these consumer drives runs about $90 for the 2T models, irresistible for cheap guys like me, so I buy 2! My enterprise class drive lives in a fan cooled enclosure, cost twice as much but like any single drive, can suffer the same failures.

    Cost is the main reason you see all the crying on the drive forums where the average user only knows RAID comes in a can or won't bother, no?
     
  2. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    so whats the point? popcorn?
     
  3. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    Well, mainly just reporting my bad luck with Caviar green drives with about 4K hours each. How about you, anything to add; or pass that popcorn?
     
  4. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    WD Green are just a failure waiting to happen. I had about 12 2TB WD Green drives to build my home server with backup many years ago. Had no fewer than 6 fail on my at some point. WD honored their warranty, but the drives are so slow and prone to failure. I bought consumer Seagate Barracuda drives and they work great despite only having a one year warranty. They are fast and so far reliable.
     
  5. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    Yea, I got 2 WD blacks and two Seagate 1T drives, knock on wood, they have been running like champs. The last Green was used as a movie server and went through 3 days of Handbreak before it died.

    Pretty much all you pointed out has been repeated on other sites. Odd that I did check SMART the day before dying to record a max of 66C, but no other problems noted.
     
  6. Marksman30k

    Marksman30k Notebook Deity

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    In contrast, I snagged an absolutely ancient WD RE3 1TB at pre-flood prices in malaysia and it's clocked well over 4000hrs without so much as a single read error rate. Sigh, they just don't make HDDs like these anymore, I reckon its very possible it will outlast both my RAID0 WD Blue 1tb drives.
    Speaking of brute reliability, I'm actually quite proud of my ancestral WD 250gb Black thats now clocked about 10000hrs with a few read errors, however, its slower than stoned sloth nowadays.

    In a similar but not completely related incident, I had multiple WD myPassports die on me in the past 4 years and all have clocked only about 1000hrs each, I reckon they are either 2.5inch Green drives or the reject green drives.
     
  7. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    [​IMG]

    here is some

    send me some luckies now

    I had so many backups die, but the point is 2tb drives are getting quite a rep to be very unreliable, 3tb are OK and 4tb are unknown at this point, thats why I go with the old trusty 1tb
     
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    I had a WD Raptor drive work flawlessly for nearly 8 years.

    Sent from my YP-G70 using Tapatalk 2
     
  9. misft33333

    misft33333 Notebook Consultant

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    My sister had a green drive for a backup and it has since died with all of her data on it. However, I had an enclosure and ripped it open to discover it was a green drive and it has been going strong for I believe 5+ years (put it on a bigger enclosure).
     
  10. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    That was the first thing I did, ripped it open and threw it in my Thermatake dock. It has and on/off button.

    After 3 seconds on, platters motor stone dead and smell of death coming from drive controller board.

    Interesting is the original MyBook interface board is fine and works with an ancient Dell 80gig Caviar. That 7 year old drive has a new home ;)