Best SSHD

Hi. I'm after an SSHD. I'm kind of finding full SSDs a little expensive so the second best option would be an SSHD ?

I have an Acer E5-571
Aspire E5-571 | Laptops - Tech specs & reviews - Acer

I'd like a 1TB SSHD but will settle for 512GB if the performance is there. I'd like to see all options so I can compare it with Crucial SSDs but my budget is around £50. Not much I know. I have created thisnew thread here because my need to know more. For reference this is part of my first thread regarding this laptop here > http://forum.notebookreview.com/what-notebook-should-i-buy/762988-laptop-tesco-uk-4.html

Thank you

 

SSHDs will not even come close to a full blown SSDs

 

Seagate 1TB SSHD.
Seagate 500 GB SSHD.
Toshiba 1 TB SSHD. (I recommend this one as, in my experience, it is more reliable than Seagate's SSHDs).
Toshiba 500 GB SSHD
That's about it. Western Digital does have some SSHDs, but they are found in Lenovos as far as I know (so you would have to get a used one).

 

Is there even a best SSHD? I'd say the best SSHD is a real SSD. Save up for a couple months if needed.

 

It will be around £120 for the SSHD, 4GB RAM and a Intel 7260 wifi card if I go with Game7a1's Toshiba recommendation. If I add around £80 I could get MrDJ's reccomendation, a full SSD http://forum.notebookreview.com/what-notebook-should-i-buy/762988-laptop-tesco-uk-4.html#post9854369 but thats half capacity. Could I possibly get away with just having 256GB? That would total it to around £120

 

If you don't need the storage (1 TB or 500 GB), get the SSD. If you need the storage, get the SSHD. Do keep in mind a SSHD, while faster than an HDD, is still slow compared to a SSD.

 

I'm currently running a 256 OS drive with a secondary 750 HDD for data. Works well for me, but it will depend on your needs. I have about 100 GB free on the SSD, and something like 30 GB over provisioned. Most of the space used is OS, all my work software (a few cad programs), and games.


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Why dont you just replace optical drive with a hdd caddy and place ssd inside. You will have best of both worlds. Big hdd for storage and ssd for that extra umph.

Hdd caddy can be found for 7$ on ebay.com

 

I seen SSD 500gb that are 200US and that is a very good price for them.

 

I really do want an SSD but I don't want to run out of space on say a 256GB.

Yeah for sure I need to get a portable USB powered storage device.

Link please? Or can you send it to the UK

 

Look for Crucial MX100.. You can get the 512GB version from amazon for 140 ish quid usually however the product is under review so its expensive now.. If you can wait, get that... Best price/GB this SSD is...

 

The best SSHD? The one you don't pay money for.

A long time ago, the original Seagate 500GB model w/7200RPM speed was almost worth considering (vs. what was available then).

Today's 5400 RPM wimpy examples are not even worth the effort to throw into the trash...


Save your money and get something worthwhile. The MX100 is the minimum I would be considering, along with 30% OP'ing.

 

I dont think you understood me. Check this video.

You can replace your DVD-RW drive with a HDD Caddy that will let you install second hard drive into your notebook.
So in the end you can have both SSD and HDD in your notebook and not worry about the space.

That is if you do not use DVD, even if you do use it sometimes there are cables with double USB connectors that can power DVDRW drives just fine, if you ever happen to need one.

 

as i said on your previous thread look at the crucial i linked too and Tom has mentioned.
$200 = £129
ebuyer i linked too was £153

looking on amazon its £174 so ebuyer is still cheapest. search about on google and you might find it cheaper.

 

ok. SSD it is.

Ah. That does look good. But I will be honest in saying I would rather 1 internal storage drive, 1 internal dvd drive and an external storage drive.

 

dabs.com £150 Crucial 512GB MX100 SATA 6Gb/s 2.5" 7mm SSD + 9.5mm Adapter (CT512MX100SSD1) - dabs.com

most important thing to check first is it will fit. most laptops are 2.5" but check the connections in your laptop first.

 

Is there a way to check using software?

 

looking at your original link it only says SATA 5400rpm with 2MB Cache

Buy Acer Aspire E5-571, 15.6" Laptop, Intel Core i3, 4GB RAM, 1TB - Red from our All Laptops range - Tesco.com

Aspire E5-571 | Laptops - Tech specs & reviews - Acer

as long as you can get to the original drive and it slides out the above crucial should fit as i think they all have same plug fittings but best someone else confirms this.

 

from speccy....

Storage
Hard drives
WDC WD10JPVX-22JC3T0
Manufacturer Western Digital
Heads 16
Cylinders 121,601
Tracks 31,008,255
Sectors 1,953,520,065
SATA type SATA-III 6.0Gb/s
Device type Fixed
ATA Standard ACS2
Firmware Version Number 01.01A01
LBA Size 48-bit LBA
Power On Count 12 times
Power On Time 1.5 days
Speed 5400 RPM
Features S.M.A.R.T., APM, NCQ
Max. Transfer Mode SATA III 6.0Gb/s
Used Transfer Mode SATA III 6.0Gb/s
Interface SATA
Capacity 931 GB
Real size 1,000,204,886,016 bytes
RAID Type None

 

From this spec: WDC WD10JPVX-22JC3T0

From this manufacturer's PDF:

See:
http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-771437.pdf


The drive you have should be a 2.5" drive with a zHeight of 9.5mm. You should be able to install any 2.5" SSD you want.


Note: While most mobile HDD/SDD's are 2.5" formats, what can and does vary is the zHeight of each drive. Check the linked PDF which clearly states that even the WD Blue range of models can have a zHeight of:

 

ok thank you. I'll get saving.

 

For those of us who pulled the trigger too soon, can anyone help me get back on track?

Just got my Samsung 840 EVO 256GB mSATA in the mail today. Intended for an OS drive. My hp Pavilion dv7-3160 laptop had an mSATA port, but apparently only there for caching the stock 7200RPM drive. I wasn't concerned, it has a 2nd drive bay. So I'm like I'll just buy one of these mSATA to SATA converters (below) from amazon and live with less performance than Samsung 850 SATA SSD, right?

Amazon.com: ZTC 2-in-1 Thunder Board M.2 (NGFF) or mSATA SSD to SATA III Board Adapter. Multi Size Fit with High Speed 6.0GB/s. Model ZTC-AD002: Computers & Accessories
http://www.amazon.com/Syba-2-5-Inch-Adapter-External-SD-ADA40077/dp/B00G8772CS/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
Amazon.com: Syba mSATA SSD to 2.5-Inch SATA Adapter (SY-ADA40050): Computers & Accessories

Then I got thinking about TRIM...I've looked all over the net and can't get a simple answer whether any mSATA to SATA adapters support TRIM.
Any experts out there can comment or give some much needed advice? Don't want to wear out this mSATA I bought or run slow, but the manufacturers don't post anything.
Is TRIM independent of these adapters and my question is irrelevant? I'd like to just buy the $10 one above and be done with it!

 

Please don't post the same question in several threads as well as a new one.

As far as I know, those adapters just pass the pin connections through, so it should be transparent to your computer. Assuming the Evo you purchased supports trim (Tiller - got that anandtech link handy?), then it should work fine.


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The link that (I think) alexhawker is asking for:

See:
AnandTech | Samsung SSD 840 EVO mSATA (120GB, 250GB, 500GB & 1TB) Review

I should point out though that there are quite a few people here that state that TRIM is working; although since Anandtech still hasn't updated it's article to say differently, the 'warning' is still pertinent for at least some users, imo.


Instead of thinking what the mSATA drive will do with an adaptor, I would be selling it and getting a proper/MLC 2.5" SSD.

No questions, no mystery and no TLC buffoonery from Samsung to worry about now or ever.


See:
Samsung 840 EVO read speed drops on old-written data in the drive - Page 136


See:
Samsung 840 EVO read speed drops on old-written data in the drive - Page 136


The two links above are just a 0.01 second search for the variability of the Samsung EVO 'fix'.

In my own case with 1TB EVO's, I am seeing faster performance (yes!) after the fix. However, the computers still feel laggy with the EVO's. (Soon, we'll have another benchmark to show how bad TLC nand really is... ? ).

 

Agreed... I had that Seagare Momentus XT 7200rpm drive and it was epic ... The new ones are junk... As for MX100, it should be fine even with 10-20% OPing so that OP can maximise available space....

mSATA 840 Evo's seem to be ok.. It seems to be the regular 2.5" ones which are derpy...

 

Thanks for the response and links. I had read several places about TRIM not always being passed through adapters going from M.2 to SATA and wasn't sure about mSATA to SATA.

I wanted to use the mSATA now and have for a future motherboard or laptop, but I agree an 850 Pro SATA SSD would be straightforward and a little better performance even with only a SATA II laptop offering, and I'll want an M.2 by the time I get a new puter.

Ya I got the impression the mSATA EVO's weren't identical performance as SATA EVO's when I looked at different Benchmarks, like Samsung did what they could to make their flagship mSATA SSD as good as it gets.

My dell xps m140 laptop is IDE so going with Mydigital 128GB Bullet Proof mSATA with an mSATA to 44-pin IDE adapter. It was that or use a 1.8" ssd with corresponding adapter to fit inside the bay. It does have a slot for PCI express but couldn't find many choices for a reasonable price. Its a great laptop for the girls to youtube and do homework on. Hoping there aren't issues with the adapter when I get it.

 

I've used Addonics mSATA to PATA/IDE adapter in my older ThinkPads and was very pleased with it.

Addonics Product: 2.5" IDE mSATA Flash drive

Obviously, YMMV.

 

I find it hard for a msata port to be made exclusively for caching purposes have you installed it in the port?

For e.g my R4 sata port is only rated for sata2 speeds not sata3/6Gbps

 

It really depends on your chipset... At least in the mobile i7 ivy bridge, mSATA was rated for SATA II and not SATA III...