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    Best bang/buck update for a sluggish system..? RAM didn't improve...

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Pott, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. Pott

    Pott Notebook Guru

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    I have an Acer 5920G: 8600GT GPU, stock 2GB RAM (now 3) and the T7300 Core2Duo CPU.

    I already upped the RAM to 3GB but it doesn't seem to do all THAT much.
    The computer feels rather sluggish under Vista. I've taken down A LOT of software, services etc... but to no avail. That and it's pretty established that Vista's just not great.

    I'm looking to get rid of the some of the lag, get a smoother system... I may need more power and therefore to upgrade the CPU but that may be expensive... :/ :confused: ?

    Anyway... thanks for any tips on this one. It's a well spec'ed laptop but it gets frustrating to use.
     
  2. User Retired 2

    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Sounds like storage lag. Try a 80GB X25M G2 SSD, placing your existing HDD in an optical bay caddy. See sig. OR could go a 7k500 Hitachi 7200rpm HDD. Ensure you have AHCI selected in you bios to improve performance with your existing HDD.

    The Acer 5920g has been overclocked successfully as well by tme-unlocking it. See here.
     
  3. Pott

    Pott Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for the tip. SSDs are expensive but I'll look into this.

    My current harddrive is a Toshiba MK1637GSX. My laptop only has space for one HDD and I'm out of USB ports though...
     
  4. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Actually I'd suggest Windows 7. This tends to make a laggy Vista system feel a bit brisker. By no means a miracle cure I thnk you would be a bit happier. The 7K500 is a great drive as well.....
     
  5. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Try backing up your data and reinstalling the OS.
     
  6. Joel

    Joel coffeecoffeecoffeecoffee

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    Well, Windows 7 would probably help, I sure noticed a difference from Windows XP. But back on topic, defrag? You could even try clean install.
     
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    Trottel Notebook Virtuoso

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    I second the clean install idea.
     
  8. woofer00

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    3rd on the clean install. I'd bet the registry looks like hell, but I wouldn't trust any freeware registry cleaners if you're doing anything important on the machine. Don't need to upgrade just yet. If you're considering replacing parts that would require a fresh install anyway, why not go ahead and reformat?

    Also, storage lag? wat?
     
  9. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    Me too I second a clean install of the OS.

    If you don't want to do it then go to control panel, add remove software, and install all the apps that you don't use. Some of them might have been already there when you bought your laptop like the 60 days trial version of MS office, trail games and so on.

    Also do Run --> MSconfig --> Startup (tab) --> uncheck all the apps that you don't need to start in their own (QuickTime, Adobe...).

    Then use CCleaner (freeware) to delete internet and other temporary files.

    Last defrag your harddrive.

    If you do this you would notice a significant improvment :)
     
  10. Pott

    Pott Notebook Guru

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    I use CCleaner, Glary Utilities for cleaning/registry solutions and I degrag weekly using Auslogic Disk Defrag.

    I'd do a clean install but... I have Ubuntu on another partition and if I do a clean install I could lose all of this. I can't remember if the instal process lets you chose which partition to use... If this is the case then it's fairly easy, all I'd have to do is restore GRUB instead of MBR and it'll all be ok. If it takes over the whole HDD I'm pretty much refusing to do it until I know more about the process. I would have a lot of things that'd need re-installing but all my files are already on an external HDD so that would be ok.
     
  11. lackofcheese

    lackofcheese Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well, in terms of bang for buck, a clean install is definitely the best because it offers infinite bang per unit buck :D
     
  12. crayonyes

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    Yes, you can choose which partition to install in clean install :)
     
  13. BruBoo

    BruBoo Notebook Evangelist

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    Hello

    Here are a few suggestions:
    Clean up vista:
    System drive (C:?) disk cleanup, set to clean everything and in the more options system files tab set to clean restore points etc. Say ok.
    Run defragmentation
    Restart, restart, restart.
    Run defragmentation again.
    If it starts slowly consider registry cleaners (ccleaner) don't bother otherwise
    Uninstall/reinstall /repair your antivirus software
    Ditto Audio driver (may need to use the acer version)
    Ditto graphics driver (Acer or if graphic card then manufacturer if possible)
    Check in device manager for device driver alerts
    Go to PC pitstop.com, run the free tests (hunt around !) see what is looking below par, especially slow disk transfer rates etc, etc.
    See what other updated drivers are available from Acer, windows update and PC pitstop reports.
    Leave it on overnight so it can get indexing out of its system.

    If still not happy backup all your mail, favourites, documents music licenses etc etc whatever and wherever. If possible now take a full system image to an external HDD using e.g. paragon backup and restore free version.
    Do a factory restore. is this better ?

    If yes contemplate restoring your stuff or updating to W7
    If no you might as well restore that full disk image you just saved.
     
  14. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    clean install of windows 7 if possible, clean install of windows vista otherwise.
     
  15. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    1. Get 500GB Hitachi 7K500... will be a great upgrade and more space too...

    2. Do clean install of windows 7 64bit... although u don't have more than 4GB ram , 64bit seems faster than 32bit
     
  16. Pott

    Pott Notebook Guru

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    Thanks. The 320GB version would double my available disk space and it's less than 60 euros it seems! Great tip, thanks. I'm also looking into an upgrade kit to W7. Will do a clean install first and then since Ubuntu 10.04 is coming soon I'll just dual boot it from W7.
     
  17. Xiphias

    Xiphias Notebook Evangelist

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    Try a clean install first. With your hardware, there's no way even Vista would be laggy.
     
  18. Pott

    Pott Notebook Guru

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    Ok good call. I may be getting a W7 for cheap anyway and should learn soon. If I do, I'll do a clean W7 install and try to upgrade my HDD. Those Hitachi don't seem easily found in the Netherlands though :( so I'll need other choices.
     
  19. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    Hmm, I'm surprised that the RAM upgrade didn't improve your system's performance any, my RAM upgrade certainly did? Technically speaking, it does have the greatest impact on performance as hardware item go--provided it's below sufficient to begin with.

    On the other hand, your sluggish system performance could be due to all the registry altering programs (junk) you've accumulated over time. In that case, the popular vote for a clean install (hopefully to W7) stands supreme.

    Please let us know how it turns out.
     
  20. Pott

    Pott Notebook Guru

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    Alright I'll be doing a clean Vista install on C. I backed up all my files and I made a list of all the additional software I'll have to update.
    Only thing I'm worried about is that I think I activated my MS Office 3 times already... I'll be in a bad position without office but I think I can find a way around that, worse to come.
     
  21. sean473

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    it shouldn't be a problem... Office might detect that ur using same laptop... so it would only activate once..
     
  22. Trottel

    Trottel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Don't make up stuff.
     
  23. woofer00

    woofer00 Wanderer

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    Worst thing that can happen is you'll have to call to activate, it's a fairly simple process. The MS assumption is that noone ever reformats or reinstalls, so 3 activations should suffice for the desktop/laptop exemption. Oh, and I second not making stuff up.