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    Best screen type for a gaming laptop Glossy Vs. Matte

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Obvioushail, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. Obvioushail

    Obvioushail Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm trying to decide on what display i want for my new gaming laptop before I order it and I basically cant decide between Glossy or Matte.

    I have heard that glossy gives better colors whenever your gaming, but you have that annoying glare. While Matte doesn't have a glare at all, but I have heard that the colors appear washed out or grainy at times. I'm probably going to be using the laptop for long periods of time, mostly indoors if that helps at all.

    I just wanted you guys opinion thanks a lot!
     
  2. gwfreak01

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    If it's indoors, I'd say go for the glossy. The glare doesn't bother me as I'm usually focused on whatever I'm doing.
     
  3. Obvioushail

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    Thanks for answering, Also do you notice it whenever you are playing games or anything? I watched a few side by side comparison videos and it seems like whenever you are playing a game its little to not noticeable at all.
     
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    I would say it depends on your use and if you are in a brightly lit room.

    My Alienware has a glossy screen, but it sits indoors all day so it doesn't bother me.
     
  5. Obvioushail

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    So would you say glossy is better for a gamer? I haven't had much experience with laptop screens because this is the first laptop I am purchasing. I'm just not sure if the glare will bother me or not.
     
  6. gwfreak01

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    I have a matte external monitor and a glossy laptop monitor. I've played on both. The graphics on both are very crystal clear (assuming you have a high quality external monitor). But yeah, they dont bother me at all.
     
  7. HTWingNut

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    Neither is better for gaming, it's purely personal preference. My preference is matte no matter what.
     
  8. Obvioushail

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    In all the forums i've been on they always said that Glossy had a higher gamut so it made colors "pop" more in a way which is why I was assuming they were better for gaming.
     
  9. Tsunade_Hime

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    Glossy screens makes it look more "vibrant" especially with high color gamut screens (like my R2's 1200p RGBLED screen).
     
  10. baii

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    Personal preference, I wear cheap glass w.o all the fancy antiglare coating w.e and glossy screen kill my eyes. Glossy screen does look awesome in dark room though.
     
  11. Obvioushail

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    thats kind of a deal breaker. Its like you can have this awesome glossy display but you have to avoid sun light, but you can take this matte screen that does good is sun light, but looks slightly worse.
     
  12. HTWingNut

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    Gamut has nothing to do with it, gamut is simply the number of colors the screen can reproduce. It's a cheap way to make the contrast look better, and in reality there is no difference in dark or light room. With glossy, if you have *any* light source you can see your ugly (or pretty) mug in the screen any time the screen gets dark. Up to you if you like your own face that much or not. Some people are fooled that it looks better, it doesn't. Matte just slightly diffuses any background light so it's not reflected back at you. If you took the exact same LCD with glossy and matte coating side by side their color and brightness would be identical. Just the glossy might look to have slightly better contrast.

    IMHO, if you sit in a pitch black room, get a glossy screen, otherwise choose matte.
     
  13. Krane

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    Simply stated the same process that reduces the glare also reduce the contrast and sometimes the dynamic range. For many, the compromise is worth it. Especially if you view in well lit environments.
     
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    if i could get matte on my m18x i would get it in a heartbeat. I mostly use it indoors. But when the windows are wide open the screen light reflection bother's me.
     
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    Seriously though, if I was born a little more handsome , I will get those gorilla glass external monitors ~~
     
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    Alright thanks a lot! That really makes want to get matte now. I was wondering though whenever you said the contrast looked better on glossy what did you mean? That text would look clearer or the picture?
     
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    i think contrast just refers to colors popping out... not specfic to text or pictures...
     
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    my personal preference is a glossy screen... one with good viewing angles!
     
  19. Krane

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    This ^^

    If all you care about is text then screen types are pretty much a non-issue. Virtually any off the rack screen will give you that.
     
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    Yes. I might have come across as a little harsh on glossy, but just my personal experience with them has not been good. Then again I use my laptop in fairly well let rooms most of the time. Yes, colors "popping out" if you want to call it that. Basically lighter colors against a darker background look more vibrant, albeit not necessarily more true to actual colors. Again though, in the end it's personal preference. Some people get a crappy matte screen and then blame it on being matte when it's just a crappy screen.
     
  21. Obvioushail

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    Thats exactly what I was thinking but I don't think im going to be in the dark 24/7. I was watching a youtube video and I took a screenshot comparing the two. The glossy screen on the right is definitely clearer than the matte, but the matte doesn't have that glare.

    imgur: the simple image sharer
     
  22. nanomist

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    It's all about compromise. I use glossy screen at home where I can control my lighting conditions, but I went with matte on my ultraportable that goes outside. I always game in dim lighting conditions with a nice bias light, so no problems going glossy there.
     
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    If you buy glossy, you can always go matte by buying a anti-glare screen protector.

    but once matte, always matte.
     
  24. minimarcy

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    I've always worked with glossy screens, as I do all my gaming inside where I can control the lighting environment. Never been in a situation where I'll be gaming outside in the sun.... although that's basically because sunny days are few and far between over here! :D Like OC_masta says above - you can buy a matte cover for any screen... but you can't make a matte screen glossy! :)
     
  25. Obvioushail

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    Ok that does make a really good point haha If I get glossy I could always just get the screen protector if I didn't like it, but I couldnt go the other way. Makes sense! I think im going glossy now thanks a lot for all the help guys.
     
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    Screen protectors suck. I mean if you can get them installed properly they look decent, but 9/10 you always get bubbles or a hair or piece of dust behind it. It takes a lot of patience and a lot of time to get it right.

    I realized the topic is "Gaming" laptops, and imho matte is the only way to go. If you were into photo or video editing and needed the absolute best color representation, then glossy would make sense. But for general purpose and gaming, matte IMHO is the only way to go.
     
  27. homank76

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    Forget Glossy for photo editing, can't edit a photo if you can't see the photo with a huge reflection on the screen.
     
  28. Mr.Koala

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    Dark room: matte and glossy coating should look identical.

    Bright room or outside: get a matte.

    Very bright environment: a glossy may help you because it makes rotating the screen to avoid the light source easier. Keep in mind that glossy coating often result in much higher overall reflection rate, so the outcome is not guaranteed.
     
  29. baii

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    matte and glossy definitely do not look the same even in complete absent of other light.

    and work always = matte (not matter which kind). If you use it as a digital picture frame , then that's another story.
     
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    I'm a super fan of glossy screens. I had an old HP monitor that was glossy, got the new HP ips monitor, and even with all the new tech in my new monitor, it still is not near as crisp as my 2207 screen. Same with the few notebooks I have with matte screens.

    Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using Tapatalk 2
     
  31. sunster168

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    I'm also a fan on nice screens. In my case, the screen is obviously glossy. Being where I'm at today, I'd say go for the best caliber screen you can get you hands on as the colors will be much, much better. As for me this is one thing I really like about having gotten my laptop.

    The trend is now towards matte screens and I have contemplated getting an anti-glare screen protector, but actually never did push through with this. I've also been fortunate enough to have been able to try out some matte screens on some friends' gaming laptops as they asked me to do some upgrades on them. One was a GT60 0NE-22-US and the other a Clevo P150EM and both matte screens are nice too.

    Since I've learned to enjoy better color quality more, I placed an order for a Clevo P150EM with a Matte 95% NTSC Gamut screen. It was actually one way I could get the price down for their current Autumn promo and get a nice screen at the same time. I'm really excited about this.

    I guess it's like the saying goes that "a man who tries the freshest fish wouldn't want to go back to eating fish fillet". I don't see you going wrong with either type you choose, as long as it's the one you personally like and choose.

    Just my 2 cents worth :hi2:
     
  32. Obvioushail

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    Ah, after reading all you guys comments it makes the decision harder :) I was wondering though, I was looking at the screen options and they do offer a "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen w/ 72% NTSC Color Gamut and the Glossy only has 90% Color Gamut so the matte is only about 20% off. That wouldn't be noticeable at all would it?

    I did read somewhere that staring at a Glossy screen for to long would cause eye strain. That is the only worry I will have. I want the Matte, but for some odd reason I feel that I would be missing on the experience of trying a glossy. In the picture I linked before glossy Obviously looks better but not by much so do you think that having that 72% boost in color gamut would make it match compared to the glossy?

    Also I had one more question. In you guys opinion would dual 7970ms be more powerful than a single 680m? Or would a single 7970m be just as powerful as the 680m? I am trying to find a way to drop the cost of my laptop but still get similar performance.
     
  33. minimarcy

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    A single 680m or 7970m will crush most games at the minute on Ultra. My advice would be to get a single for now, then upgrade to Xfire/SLI in a year or so?
     
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    Gamut just means representation of the color spectrum. Even 90% gamut screens can look worse than 72% gamut screens if not calibrated, and it doesn't mean it has better/worse viewing angles, contrast, etc. If you're into photo or video editing and need the truest representation of colors, then get the 90% screen, but then you'll have to calibrate it regularly. If it's for general use, Office, movie viewing, browsing, gaming, etc save a few bucks and get the 72%. Not only that if you really are that sensitive about the colors then you'll likely need to be using an external IPS or other expensive high quality monitor.

    To me glossy is mostly for entertainment purposes. Matte is better for productivity imho.
     
  35. Obvioushail

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    I will be doing some video editing, but nothing to heavy. Just some game footage I will be recording from games so I shouldn't need everything to be completely perfect. Even if I do need a better screen for video editing I guess I could just buy a really good external monitor to do the trick like you said.
     
  36. Obvioushail

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    Well what I meant was that I have the money to buy one or the other I can get dual 7970m or a single GTX680m currently and I was just wondering if a single 680m could beat out dual 7970ms? I watched one of Xotic PC's videos on the GTX680m and they said whenever it was overclocked it could out perform dual 7970ms I just wanted to confirm it.
     
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    Well it will be perfectly fine for video editing game material, because colors are what they are in-game. I meant more for actual colors, professional photoshop type stuff, when you're concerned about the perfect skin tone hue, eye color, etc.
     
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