The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Boot times on 7K500 take one minute hit after installing ICH9 drivers. Why?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Phil, Feb 7, 2010.

  1. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
  2. hendra

    hendra Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    157
    Messages:
    2,020
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    56
    My guess is when you installed the driver, it also installed a hard drive utility software. I remember that happened when I installed the driver from an executable file. Try if you can uninstall the utility from Control Panel.

    Note: the cleanest method to install ICH9 driver is by downloading the zip version for floppy drive. Unzip it and install the driver manually from Device Manager.
     
  3. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    Yes the driver installs 'Intel Matrix Storage manager'.

    I'd like to install the driver manually but the the package does not contain a .inf file. I can't find one elsewhere.
     
  4. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

    Reputations:
    4,740
    Messages:
    8,513
    Likes Received:
    3,823
    Trophy Points:
    431
  5. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    Great, that worked.

    For future reference: how can I find that driver myself on Intel.com?
     
  6. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

    Reputations:
    4,740
    Messages:
    8,513
    Likes Received:
    3,823
    Trophy Points:
    431
    goto intel.com then click downloads , then product family chipsets, then laptop chipsets , then select mobile series 4 , then drivers and look for the INF Update Utility -​ Zip Format , not the exe format.
     
  7. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    Thanks.

    By the way, is there any point in installing the ICH9 driver? Seems like it has zero impact on performance.
     
  8. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

    Reputations:
    4,740
    Messages:
    8,513
    Likes Received:
    3,823
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Very little performance difference, though in raid it might matter , if you use the free hdtune , i have noticed you get no smart or drive info with the intel driver , but you do with the microsoft one.
     
  9. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    I noticed that after installing the ICH9 drivers copying a 16GB folder went from 9 minutes to taking 12 minutes.

    Now I did a clean install and I am running the MS driver again. It's back to 9 minutes.

    I'm not 100% sure it was caused by the driver because I also removed a couple of programs like Avast and Magicvirtualdisk, but I really think the ICH9 causes bad performance on my DM3.
     
  10. crayonyes

    crayonyes Custom Title! WooHoooo !!

    Reputations:
    705
    Messages:
    1,098
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    and how long does "other" hdd take ?? (pls give us spoiler lol)

    edit: now I wonder does the ICH8 driver dated 6/4/2009 affect my hdd.. I'm seriously considering to remove it now :(
     
  11. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    OK one spoiler. It was 9:07 for the Hitachi, 9:27 for the WD.

    But I can also say there are a couple of benchmarks were the roles were reversed. Review will be published monday (probably).
     
  12. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    613
    Messages:
    6,705
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I also have Intel ICH9M drivers and after reading this , i'm considering to remove them... Phill , have u seen this on any other notebooks other than the DM3?
     
  13. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    No, only tested on DM3.

    If I were you I would benchmark it yourself. Take a large folder and duplicate it in the same partition. Time it by hand.

    I had a hard time removing the ICH9 drivers though. They would come back after I removed them. In the end I just did a clean install.

    Maybe you can just manually select the standard 'Standard AHCI Serial ATA controller 1.0' driver.

    It would be interesting to see if it works for you too Sean.
     
  14. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    2,548
    Messages:
    9,585
    Likes Received:
    4,997
    Trophy Points:
    431
    I have the AHCI Intel 8.9.2.1002, Copying 15.2 GB picture folder from my DSLR archive to desktop took 8:30 so I'm in the 16 GB in 9 minute territory. My boots are relatively quick too. Not to cross post but this is my regular desktop boot up. No striped down version other than blaotware I would never use not initialized but it is my every day configuration with 4 gadgets, Rainelendar lite, and my printer suite etc etc etc......
     
  15. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    You can't compare the scores between different systems that way because it is dependent on how many files (and what size) are in the 16GB folder.

    If you want to compare it, compare it to copying the same folder with the different driver.
     
  16. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    2,548
    Messages:
    9,585
    Likes Received:
    4,997
    Trophy Points:
    431
    I agree there, I just wanted to say that it doesn't seem to affect mine. My boot is fast and copy seems fine............
     
  17. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    Alright. But I don't think you really know unless you compare it to the standard AHCI driver...
     
  18. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    2,548
    Messages:
    9,585
    Likes Received:
    4,997
    Trophy Points:
    431
    I just tried the M$ AHCI. Before each driver I used DP10 to fragment the drive and freespace to be sure of an equal footing. I found the M$ driver slower on my Asus U81a.

    15.2GB folder copy to desktop, Intel = 8:30 then M$ = 9:34

    Boottimer Intel = 35-36 seconds then M$ 36-37 seconds (several reboots each)