Buy Intel 8th Gen 6 Core CPU or wait?

Like many of you I am drooling over the Newest 6 Core 8th Gen Intel CPUs heck my Aero 15X arrives Tuesday.
My point is. Intel CPUs have been stuck on the Same Architecture and die Process for years and while 8th Gen 6 Core May sound nice Coffe Lake is just Kaby Lake with 2 More Cores. And Kaby Lake was just over Clocked Skylake.

By this time next year 6 Core 8th Gen Owners might be pounding Their Heads they didn’t wait for 9th Gen Cannonlake which will feature 8 Cores and 16 threads plus according to the graph below it will be the first major new architectural change in the last4-5 years. Take a look.

https://www.eteknix.com/intel-prepares-cannonlake-i7-9700k-8c16t-cpu-2h-2018/

 

I mean , just sell the old hardware and get the new platform. Thats pretty much the draw back for jumping onto new tech/platforms.. Im sure everyone who bought Kaby Lake was well aware of that Canon lake release imminent. And its not like the current 6 cores will outright become obsolete.

 

Yes the 9700k desktp cpu with 8 cores is expected eventually, but no it won't be on the 10nm process, which was delayed for next year and at first will be ULV cpus only. It will be a long wait for 10nm canonlake desktop cpus and 45W laptop ones. Besides, for gaming, the next gen Nvidia is a lot more exciting, with 1180 expected to be on par or above the 1080Ti.

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It’s not that 6 Core Coffee Lake will be Obsolete it’s that 9th Gen Cannonlake will be a whole new Architecture and be fully 8 Cores which is what Game companies will target for next gen games. Because all Ryzen CPUs And Intel CPUs will normalize with 8 Cores Same as Home gaming consoles.

6 Core CPUs will be at a huge disadvatage.

If I drop $2,300 on a machine now I don’t want to feel Obsolete in 2 Years. Which is what will happen. With Cannonlake and GTX 1180 just 11 months or less away.

 

Canonlake 45W cpus is a long wait....since the U cpus for ultrabooks will only be available next year. If you are so worried about your purchase of the Aero now, because of a cpu that is at least a year and half away, why not be more concerned with the upcoming new gen Nvidia card that are likely only 6 months away and offer a much stronger gaming performance boost than any CPU will, be it 9th gen, 10th...

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First off that article is months old... It's just speculation... While sure it could be true, Intel hasn't said anything and the rumor mill has been wrong before...

Next up, 6 core cpus will be at a huge disadvantage? Most games are still barely using 4 cores. On top of that are still heavily gpu bound. You could have said this exact same argument for people who bought Kaby Lake right before Coffee Lake. Those cpus still game just fine... Hell a 4790k will still play 144Hz just fine. GPUs are still going to be the bottlenecking factor in the majority of games.

Either way, your laptop will be obsolete in two years. That's the way it goes. There will be more gpus out by then, new cpus, and who knows new other components as well. Tech moves fast. That's why it's often advantageous to not stretch out your budget for only a little more performance. Buying an 1060 tier card each generation will take you further than buying a 1080 laptop that you need to make last for 4 years. That's what is somewhat compelling about cheaper laptops like the Helios, P650s, GP63s etc... For like 1200-1300 you get a laptop only 20-30% slower than a 2000 dollar laptop and can upgrade sooner.

 

Since the article you posted is 5 months old, here is the latest news from Intel.

"We continue to make progress on our 10-nanometer process. We are shipping in low volume and yields are improving, but the rate of improvement is slower than we anticipated. As a result, volume production is moving from the second half of 2018 into 2019 . We understand the yield issues and have defined improvements for them, but they will take time to implement and qualify. We have leadership products on the roadmap that continue to take advantage of 14-nanometer, with Whiskey Lake for clients and Cascade Lake for the data center coming later this year."

Intel was unwilling to commit to high volume production in the first half of 2019, so it's possible 10nm will be delayed until the second half of the year.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-cpu-10nm-earnings-amd,36967.html

 

I remember when the Intel Core 2 Quad mobile come. More cores but low clocks who was useless for gaming. Don't expect miracle when Intel start push out their first 8 core mobil BGA in history. More cores for Mobile won't make gaming any better in the beginning.

 

1) Big 10nm chips are a long way off yet. Right now Intel can barely get a tiny 15W dual core+HT off the ground 2 years late.
2) the 8 core 14nm++(+?) whiskey lake (on Z390) is due this year and is not a new architecture and may well be called "9700K"
3) the next architecture is always already in development so there is always something better in the future and your system is always going to be "obsolete". The real question is of degree, how long are you willing to wait, how long do you intend to use what you're considering to buy, what % performance gap to the 'latest' do you consider "obsolete"? Do you absolutely have to have the latest fastest thing? Sure the latest CPU may have 50% extra performance at maximum utilisation but does your usage pattern expose that deficit? (for example are you GPU limited or display limited in games and won't see any benefit from a faster CPU because it's not a performance bottleneck?)
4) the extra 2 cores are nice but are not really that critical to most users and are not a compelling reason for most to upgrade from a fast skylake or kaby lake system (certainly not an overclockable one like mine). That said I still want to drop a 8700K in this to replace the [email protected] just for the hell of it. (Also because why bother doing something as risky and crazy as watercooling a laptop if I can't push it to its potential)

 

Your tech will always be obsolete in two years or whatever. That’s just the nature of computer hardware.

 

Your tech is obsolete (from a technology POV) as soon as it comes out. Nothing made this more clear to me then finally getting my hands on a intel ES qx9100 CPU in 2009 (when there were just being leaked out of china) and seeing the CPU stamped 2006. I'm always operating under the assumption everything that gets released on retail is already 3 years behind on the day of its release

That being said, being technologically obsolete doesn't mean it is commercially or functionally obsolete.

 

its the end its never about becoming obsolete. its ALWAYS about the owner of the particular hardware FEELING obsolete just because something new came out.

its always about that itch that "needs" to be scratched but look at the overall average hardware config on the steam statistics, the average gamer is still years behind current gen hardware...

and THATS what game developers will be progtamming their games for, not the top 1% thats able to buy every new hardware gen that comes out.

 

How far away is Cannonlake? Will it likely be this summer?

 

As long as it performs what you need it to perform it's no obsolete.
Except gaming industry.

 

cannonlake is already shipping in thin n light lenovo flavours last i heard just that intel aint proud of it so they introduced it hush hush style:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1274...top-spotted-online-lenovo-ideapad-330-for-449

 

I heard whiskey-lake or cannon-lake U processor should be out this fall?

 

Everything from Intel's Roadmap, from the "before we gave up on 10nm again" is now 14nm. Everything. Or, maybe even a mix of other older process technolgies.

Intel can only crank up the voltage and grow the monolithic die so far before it's gone too far. Probably already there really.

At this point I'd recommend what I always recommend, buy the best you can buy right now if you need a laptop right now. You can't use now what you buy later.

If you are funnin' with yourself playing the what if game, you are gonna wait anyway.

You wouldn't be asking if you thought Intel's current new hotness was desirable.

It's for sure running hot, but that's not desirable.