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    C2D based on PIII??

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by eyepwnuall, Jul 2, 2008.

  1. eyepwnuall

    eyepwnuall Notebook Consultant

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    Okay, just want to settle an argument.

    I was almost positive that the Core 2 Duo CPUs were based on the Pentium IIIs.
    Can someone settle this?

    Thanks, for helping me be right ;) *hint* lol
     
    eyepwnuall, Jul 2, 2008
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  2. lowlymarine

    lowlymarine Notebook Deity

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    In a very round-about way, yes. The Core 2 Duo is just the Core Duo with x86-64 instructions and a faster FSB, which in turn was a dual-core Pentium M with a faster FSB. The Pentium M was developed using the Pentium III architecture as its base, rather than NetBurst.

    So I suppose, technically, you're right. Have fun! ;)
     
    lowlymarine, Jul 2, 2008
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    win32asmguy Moderator Moderator

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    In a way it is. Core 2 Duo's are derived from Yonah (Core Duo). Yonah was a die shrunk pair of Banias cores (Pentium M). Banias was based on the core of the P3 Tualatin series and also using the parts of the P4's quad pumped bus. So in a way, it is indeed rooted with the P3.
     
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  4. eyepwnuall

    eyepwnuall Notebook Consultant

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    Woot! I was right!
    Thanks a ton guys. :p
    hehe I WIN! xD
     
    eyepwnuall, Jul 2, 2008
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    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    In a way yes! But No! They got rid of their branch intuitiveness dreams (branch predictions) that started with P4. More pipelines and all. But that does not make it a PIII. Your bet at best is a draw at worst you lose. It is not a faster PIII I will look into further this is off the top of my head my friend. You likely should get some cash ready?
     
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  6. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    LOL, he's arguing with me.
    I said they were way to different, even if the C2D is based on something that is based on something that is based on a PIII :p
     
    Thomas, Jul 2, 2008
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  7. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    Thomas you are going to have to throw in the towel on this one.

    1. He has some of the basis correct.
    2. Your User Title has a grammar mistake, thus you cannot be a hacker as they rarely do any spelling mistakes.

    You fail.










    Just kidding bro. ;)
     
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  8. shoelace_510

    shoelace_510 8700M GT inside... ^-^;

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    ???
    When did you say anything about this at all...? As far as I can see you hadn't posted until this post... :confused:
     
    shoelace_510, Jul 2, 2008
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  9. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    We were arguing over IM.
    And why isnt it a surprise that I posted until now?
     
    Thomas, Jul 2, 2008
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  10. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    I know a few differences, they are different in size :D

    The pentium 3 never got hot, so it didnt need much of a heatsink
    The p3 has less pin ports
    the core based desktop ones have no pins.

    The p3's were made in malaysia and costa rica,
    now almost all core based cpu's are made in China and malaysia

    K-TRON
     
    K-TRON, Jul 2, 2008
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  11. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    See Wikipedia. It's a pair of Pentium M's with a few tweaks.

    Intel will be eternally thankful for the management decision to allow a few people (in Israel, if my memory is correct) to continue to develop the Pentium M when the official strategy was Netburst (Pentium 4 and more). Then Netburst got hotter and hotter and AMD were smiling.

    John
     
    John Ratsey, Jul 3, 2008
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  12. Tippey764

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    intel better be thankfull or else theyd still be running pentium d's lol. This makes me laugh at my laptop.
     
    Tippey764, Jul 3, 2008
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  13. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    That article refers to the original Core Duo, I believe.
     
    Thomas, Jul 3, 2008
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  14. lowlymarine

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    Yes, but the Core 2 is just a 64-bit Core Duo with a pumped-up FSB - no matter how much Intel wants to advertise that it was "built from the ground up."

    Edit: From the Core Microarchitecture article:
     
    lowlymarine, Jul 3, 2008
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