Can I grade parts in a laptop?

Hey I currently have a Sony vpc f226fm, I was wondering if I can change the CPU to an ivy bridge, and change the graphic card which is a 540m to a 660m?

Thanks guys!

 

Sorry, no and no.

Sandy Bridge notebooks aren't upgradable to IVB. And the GT540m is soldered to the motherboard.

 

Please forgive me this, but a long day and I need some comic relief.... But yes you can grade parts in a laptop. I give my GPU an A, my CPU a B, and my router a C. There you go. It can be done on any Lappy.

But seriously, see Hal's reply.

 

I thought I'd seen some sigs where people had upgraded their SB notebooks to Ivy Bridge QS/ES processors. I could be wrong, but I could have sworn there were a few who had...

 

In all honesty, I'd love to see them. I haven't seen a notebook that would accept IVB yet... but I'm not saying it's impossible.

 

this is not entirely true. you could learn more about something like that here:
Manufacturers: Sager/Clevo
...even though op currently owns a sony. next time.

 

Didn't really see anything there, but I didn't really dig.

Are we talking about a Clevo with a desktop X68 motherboard? Or is this a socket G2 notebook?

 

link clearly and link it true, there is no possibility to an upgrade from SB to IVB

 

Thanks for clarifying. I must have misremembered, or maybe some people updated their sigs before the processors arrived and turned out to be incompatible...

 

That was the first thing that came to my mind upon seeing this thread.

 

ditto. <-- *rolls eyes* if that's not clear.

LGA 1155--Wikipedia (to read about SB/IB board compatibility)

 

no it aint what chipset is the compatible one? the socket is the same, but we need the chipset which one is going to be the one to rule them all?

 

Those are all desktop chipsets. True notebook computers don't have LGA sockets. That Clevo thing isn't a notebook... it's a SFF desktop with an attached LCD.

 

I know that, but even the x7200 and p270wm can do it either, different sockets.

There are no chipset supporting the swap, I would be glad if it existed for notebooks. but it doesnt.

 

and you did say notebook right-off (had to check). *snaps fingers* alright, you got it.

however...

...which is what i rolled my eyes at--is still untrue.

 

I guess if you're definition of a notebook includes that Clevo/Sager, then yes you're correct.

As it stands, none of the mobile 6-series Intel chipsets support IVB. They have the same socket, but without a firmware update it's not possible.

So I really don't understand which part is untrue?

 

that it's NEVER possible to go from one to the other (i.e. SB to IB)--but we're (or i'm) reeally splittin 'em here now. still a very interesting thread-jack anyway because i was going to make my own thread tonight about this specific issue, just more generally.

 

OT, but here goes...

The P270WM (if it ever sees the light of day) will have LGA 2011, and will support SNB-E based CPUs. The rumor is the IVB-E chips (which will also be LGA 2011), will be supported in the P270WM, or support it with a BIOS update (for the chipset support). The problem is, we won't know if this is true until IVB-E chips are out which will be Q1/2 of 2013.

 

I don't know how are the pinouts and so-on, but sooner or later some brilliant mind would come with a mod, that allows running newer CPUs on older platform as it is with P/GM45 CPUs on P/GM965 MoBo Thanks again, naton.

 

the was a missing ''t'' or nor in that sentence, otherwise it doesnt make sense.

and are you seriously going for the some desktops chipsets can upgrade to IVB? this is a notebook forum.

 

Am I hopeful the chipset support of the P270WM can be upgraded from SNB-E (X79 chipset) to IVB-E? Absolutely. The sockets will be the same for each CPU (LGA 2011). What a few of us are wanting is support for the octo core in the IVB-E CPUs.

In regards to "this is a notebook forum", I'm unclear on your meaning as you and H.A.L. brought up the Clevo P270WM. I'm just expanding on that, and what some of us would like to see supported for the CPU in that laptop.

 

The P270WM isn't a notebook in the normal definition of the term. It's made of desktop parts stuffed into a giant chassis, which IMHO is more akin to a SFF desktop.

 

now that Im not drowsy due to lack of sleep, lets go.

the x7200 and the p270wm were brought up because mattcheau, brought clevo into the argument, and resorted to desktop chipsets.

This is inconsequential at best, simply because they use the X58 and x79 chipset, they dont rely on p6X, H6X, Z68, AFAIK only the Z68 and the P67 can do the swap.

There are no chipsets available for mobile to make the swap of SB to IVB, there H7X, Q7x chipsets that support both platforms, but as you can see by the number scheme, those are the new ones, not the old ones.

if you are hell bent on picking straws, do pick the right ones.

 

dude, reread the thread. that's only partly what we're "seriously going for." nevermind that you're assertion of "never" wasn't limited in scope to strictly notebooks.

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Never seen a SFF with a battery power source, chassis mounted keyboard/touchpad, and kensington lock. I guess opinions vary.

It's a bit unclear if this is this directed to mattcheau or me. If me, dunno what you're talking about as I never once said anything in this thread about SNB-M / IVB-M upgradability. I don't know if the data is now stale, but here is a post where I talk about the SNB- M chips NOT being upgradeable to IVB-M due to the fact Intel was not going to upgrade the mobile versions of their chipsets - http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...levo-p270wm-owners-lounge-56.html#post8384392

See the quote from http://motherboardnews.com/2011/05/27/ivy-bridges-backwards-compatibility-explained/

 

You can probably upgrade the chipset and CPU to IVB and the GPU all with a reball machine

yeah, that kensington lock is a really big deal...

 

missed point...? (i hope.)

 

LOL! However, as mattcheau just suggested. It isn't that ppl need/want the lock, rather than a kensington lock is usually found as an attribute of a lappy (just like a battery, keyboard, touchpad, etc.)

To summarize my post above, "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..." (but in the case of the p270WM I guess it would have the internals of an ostrich or a TARDIS...) ;>)

 

If your playing password and the word is duck, you'd sooner say "webbed feet" than "swims". Also Kensington locks are used on many devices including some desktops.

Similarly I'd sooner say I've never seen a desktop that folds/opens and closes on a hinge with a mounted screen and can run on a built in battery.

The goal of making this distinction should not be "if it walks like a duck its a duck", it should be, "a duck is the only type of animal we know of that can walk that way, therefore this is a duck".

Thats why the x7200 is a laptop and would still be a laptop if it was built on a desktop chassis and motherboard with a mounted LCD and keyboard and a tiny UPS inside of it, as long as it weighed under 20 lbs.

Or not. IMO.

Semantics are important. RRRRR