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    Can anyone please tell me what the best 7mm SSD is?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by person400000, Sep 19, 2012.

  1. person400000

    person400000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Considering that...

    a) The Samsung 830 is a powerhungry excuse of an SSD (if/when pushed hard)...
    b) The Sandforce based (Intel, OCZ) SSD's are slower at capacities larger than 240GB (instead of same/faster)...
    c) The very reliable Crucial M4 is in your list...
    d) The TP X230T needs as much help with battery life as it can (you do have the six cell battery, right?)...


    The only one I would consider is the Crucial M4 512GB SSD for your use.

    There really is no other option if you want to enjoy all/most of what an SSD is supposed to be offering (low power usage, high performance, reliability/durability, etc.) in a notebook environment.

    Hope this helps.

    Good luck.
     
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    cwerdna Notebook Consultant

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    I can't believe OCZ is even a choice.
     
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    grumpy42 Notebook Guru

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    I guess you dont mind BSOD from time to time at resume after sleep with the M4 ??
     
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    Jocelyn84 Notebook Consultant

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    Just have to mention that I have never trusted 'sleep' in computers since ... oh, around 1995 with Windows 95.

    This is just one of the first things I disable after a clean Win7x64 SP1 install (along with hibernate, system restore and UI 'animations').

    If this (allowing the system to sleep) is the only situation that will make an M4 BSOD - lol... I would suggest to simply disable it. :)


    BTW, of all the suggestions so far, the M4 512GB model is still the best overall performer and the best price too imo.


    Jocelyn84 - good prices you have for those SSD's.
     
  8. person400000

    person400000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Might as well list all the 7mm SSD's.
    Is it 7mm?
    How long?
    Thanks for the offer.

    Plextor 256GB M5S Series Solid State Drive SATA 6.0 Gb-s
    Amazon.com: Plextor 256GB M5S Series Solid State Drive SATA 6.0 Gb-s PX-256M5S: Computers & Accessories

    Plextor Launches M5P SSD, First to Market with New Marvell 9187 Controller | StorageReview.com - Storage Reviews

    According to this Plextor MP5 is 7mm apparently.
    Vertex 3 has 7mm models but Vertex 4 does not.
    Any benchmarks or comparisons to other SSD's?

    How do you edit a poll on this forum?
    I thought I researched all the 7mm SSD's.
    They need to put their 7mm spec more out front.
    I would've added "Other" in retrospect.

    Now the votes are 1 for crucial m4 and 8 for Samsung 830.
    I wish they weren't such a silent majority.

    Alright, thanks for the advice everyone.
     
  9. grumpy42

    grumpy42 Notebook Guru

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    From your first post, it seems that you are interested in a high capacity SSD (~512GB). I too was recently looking to purchase such a drive, but ultimately abandoned the idea (for now). Obviously, I want a fast drive, but I also want a drive that is reliable and won't adversely affect battery life. It seems that most high capacity drives have fairly poor power consumption (even worse than mechanical drives). Also, you have to be careful when looking at reviews of drives. Most reviews will only include data for the more popular sizes (i.e. 128GB, 256GB), but the performance numbers can vary quite a bit depending on the capacity. Some 512GB are faster than their smaller counterparts while others are slower (i.e. Intel 520) and power consumption seems to go up with capacity.

    The M3P seemed to hit the sweet spot in terms of performance and power consumption, but it was discontinued in favor the M5P which is not really that impressive power consumption wise. I am probably asking too much but given the prices of these drive I rather wait and get exactly what I want (if possible).

    The last I heard was that the M5P was pushed back to mid-September. So it could be hitting the retail shelves at any time
     
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    Jocelyn84 Notebook Consultant

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    The 128GB is out of stock on Newegg and it's looking like 1-2 weeks elsewhere. It's already listed for drop shipping on a few other sites - AntaresPro.com: Quick Search

    Samsung will also be releasing the 840 soon.

    If you're by chance using info from Anantech reviews, don't. Anandtech SSD reviews are worthless and it's no mistake that they're the only reviewers of the M5 Pro where it came up a little short. Anand disables EIST/Turbo, while Kristian (Plextor reviewer) leaves them enabled, meaning there's no consistency and the variables that are not being tested are not being controlled aka no apples to apples comparison. I'd also keep in mind that an SSD is going to be in idle state most of the time, due it finishing the job very quickly, so it's generally the best indicator of power consumption. Of course this doesn't apply to workstation/power users.

    Power consumption comparison
    Consommation et efficacité énergétique - Comparatif SSD 2012 : 20 SSD SATA 6G 120 et 128 Go - HardWare.fr
    [​IMG]
     
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    What is the cause of this? Been using 512GB M4 + 256GB mSATA M4 for a couple months now, lots of time sleeping and coming out of sleep, never an issue.

    I think the Samsung is the fastest, but for the cost you can't beat the M4.
     
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    ordinator Notebook Geek

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    Agree with HT. M4 price wise is unbeatable. Don't know about BSOD from sleep either. Only trouble I had is the bluetooth seems to stop working, though I suspect it's more of Intel's wireless drivers and not the SSD.

    Nvm, look at thread here:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...ash-storage/673999-what-hell-wrong-my-m4.html

    Seems like some people have issues with the M4.
     
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    Well the OP had fixed it due to a bad connection, basically it had slid loose. The other issues I've read seem to point to primarily Lenovo/Thinkpad laptops using the "ultrabay". I'm not saying the issue doesn't exist, just that it won't/doesn't affect 99.9% of users.
     
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    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    Well ''currently'' the best is the samsung 840 pro, it will be available in a few days/weeks.
     
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    Yeah, none of the options.
    The correct answer is: Samsung 840
     
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    Cloudfire, sorry you're wrong. The best is the 256/512GB Samsung 840 PRO. :)
     
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    Pro was what I meant
     
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    Yeah, I know - just teasing... :)
     
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    how can you speak that the best is Samsung 840 (pro or not) ??? ... the drive is not even out yet, LOL.

    do you know that it took over 6 months in testing to figure out that the 830 is actually the best drive out there right now? Testing is still going on at xtremesystems.org where people write ~2.5TB/day in endurance testing on various SSDs.

    as for the M4 BSOD after sleep - various people have reported that, maybe worth googling for more info if you actually have an M4.
     
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    Miro, I wasn't stating that the 840 was the best; I was correcting/teasing Cloudfire that it was the 'PRO' version that was tested/benched as best - not the tri-cell 840 that hasn't even been reviewed yet.

    As to that endurance testing? I'm not so impressed about that; simply writing huge amounts of data is not how a drive is used (and thus makes the testing a little out of touch with reality to me).

    I have already stated (another thread?) that the 840 PRO is not a drive I'll consider as tested (inconsistent performance from it making it a less than 'balanced' storage solution).
     
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    Lol, nothing impresses you tiller! Not even if it teleported you or traveled through time & the device that did this fit in your palm.

    (I'm just teasin' bro)

    Sent from my SPH-M580 using Tapatalk
     
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    davidricardo86, lol... I guess I've been around too long/just too old? :)

    What impresses me is overall balanced performance - in real world use; that has always been the best/fastest solution in the varied test called 'life'. What I also am very tuned to is form following function; pretty is as pretty does and while I can write a ton to my storage subsystems, I also need to read that data back too.

    I might be interested if it teleported me AND travelled through time AND fit in my hand... but it would probably be easily scratched and I would be like, meh - once again. :)

    See:
    iPhone 5 Meets 2-Year-Old with Instructions for Destruction


    Yeah - I guess I'm hard to please. Mostly because it seems like Everything is mostly 'marketing spin' and very little translates into something consistently better than what I already have (took SSD's 3 years to get there for me...).
     
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    First of all I want 7mm.
    9.5mm won't fit wihtout vodiing the warranty.
    Want high capacity, don't car about power consumption.
    From what I'm seeing either 240GB, 256GB, 480GB, or 512GB.
    Maybe they should make niche low-power SSD's.
    You know like Intel does with its Xeon CPU's.
    Time just keeps on moving on.

    Thanks for the info!!
    I don't speak french.

    I'm planning on using the ultrabay for a second drive.

    I thought I posted this message a few days ago.
    Hopefully it's not getting deleted without notifying me.

    I'm probably gonna get the Intel 520 7mm 240GB for now.
    Since I got my ThinkpadX230T with an Intel 520 180GB.

    It's relatively cheaper.
    If I need room or find a better drive I'll get it later.
    Either next year or at the end of this year.
    Thanks for the help everyone.
     
  24. Jocelyn84

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    Um write, read, and idle lol



    Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G Touch using Tapatalk
     
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    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Samsung 830 is good enough. High power consumption, but it writes faster than most SSD so overall power consumption is similar. If OEM use PM830 in their lineups then it is more than reliable.
     
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    Those Plextors are very fast. Watch out Samsung.
     
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    Yeah - that Plextor is smoking; too bad Jocelyn84 hasn't given us any further updates about this.
     
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    samsung 830 is better with warranty
     
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    Waiting for what? o_O

    I replaced the 830 with an M5 Pro and I'm not hitting peak 4k read/write speeds, but I'm very happy with these results in a laptop. I was surprised to see the Plextor M3 on Sata II beat the 830 on Sata III.

    All of these results are from my Samsung Series 7 (NP700Z7C-S01US)

    [​IMG]

    M5 Pro (Sata III)

    [​IMG]

    Samsung 830 (Sata III)

    [​IMG]

    M3 (Sata II)

    [​IMG]

    830 & 840 only have 3 year warranty. Plextor M3/M3P/M5P & Samsung 840 Pro all have a 5 year warranty.