Can't get the most performance of x9100 laptop processor

Hi all,

I have an laptop (Hp dv6 1330 sp) with an intel x9100 processor and i can't get full performance with it.
That happens because the laptop overheats and reduces de clock multipler as precautionary measure.

So i was thinking that if i can't enjoy the performance of this processor i should change to one that is more suitable to my laptop.

I was thinking changing to an p9700/p9600 or t9600/t9550 processor.

If anyone could help me choose or suggest another processor or help me with the heating problems, i will be glad.

With regards, António

PS: Sorry for my bad english

 

you could try to pull off the heatsink assembly, reapply the heat transfer goop and carefully reassemble. That would be the cheapest first step.

 

Already have tried that recently. I have cleaned and applied some thermal paste and it still overheat.

I have installed the rightmark cpu tool to lock the cpu multiplier to see if the laptop can handle the cpu running at 3ghz and at iddle state the temps are over 60º and when i run something more "powerfull" the laptop hibernates past 5 minutes to prevent that the laptop "burn". I have registed temps over 95º when cpu is over 50% of use.

So i think that i can assume that my laptop just can't handle this processor running at full power.

 

The X9100 is only 10 watts more in TDP. How hot did it get with the stock T6600 in it? Also, sometimes thermal paste jobs go bad, repasting it once again wouldn't be a bad idea.

I put a 45 watt i7 chip in a 14" laptop meant for 25 watt processor, and it ran at acceptable temps.

 

I really don't know what temps the laptop registed when i have the stock t6600 installed, but i can tell you that it never stayed as hot as with the x9100 processor.

I will try to repaste again with more caution. Could you recommend some thermal paste brand that i should buy?

Also i did some research and i found out that processors with e0 stepping don't heat as much the ones with c0 stepping. Mine is C0.

 

One thing about re-pasting is that you really have to wipe away the paste that was there before (I use a soft cloth -such as a handkerchief- with some isopropyl alcohol to wipe the processor die, and heatsink clean, then let it sit for a bit to evaporate entirely, then put the new paste on)

Another thing to watch out for is that the processor and heatsink might not be touching much (if it had a thermal pad when you first got the machine then it is likely that there is a slight gap, or at least not much pressure between the heatsink and processor; to solve this you would need to make a small copper shim and put it in between), you can tell if this is the case by applying some thermal paste, quickly pressuring it and tightening the screws, then removing the screws and checking if the paste is kinda gobbed on both the processor and heatsink, or if both have it evenly spread over a thin layer

 

where did you get the x9100? Any chance it's a bad chip?

 

Well, my C0 stepping X9100 doesn't run very hot, even at 3.6ghz it peaks at 85C during ps2/dolphin emulation, although the result depends entirely on each individual cooling system. You probably haven't properly repasted your CPU, which dramatically affects your CPU temp, your should clean off the old paste and re-do the whole process again as agent9 said.

Also try undervolting your X9100, it could easily bring down your the temp by at least 10 C+ .

 

I get it on ebay. I don't think it is a bad chip, the windows and cpu-z identify it well. Don't know. But is strange that most of the people i see in forums that have upgraded to this chip don't have heat issues with it.

I will try to repaste my cpu. Like Agent9 said my cpu originaly came with an thermal pad and maybe theres a gap between cpu and the heatsink. Maybe is there that the problem are.

 

try Throttle stop and undervolt the CPU..............

 

This exactly. You can probably undervolt AND overclock it a bit, with it stil running cooler. The x9000 in my HDX does 3.2 below stock voltage.

 

How? Sorry but i don't understand. How can i do that?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...arket-upgrades/531329-throttlestop-guide.html Check out this thread, it will let you adjust voltages and multipliers, provided you got an intel extreme CPU, using this I can even run the x9100 at 3.33ghz below the stock voltage.

 

thanks, i will try this guide. soon i will post back here the results

 

I already have readed the guide and downloaded the program but i don't know very well what options should i enable. Everytime that i change something appears a blue screen.

If someone know how to confirure my processor, let me know.

 

Hello again this is the best configuration that i can put in throttle stop: VID 1.0250 and 10.5 x 266.0 mhz = 2793.0 mhz (see .jpg attached).

When i try to put the clock multiplier in 11 and raise the VID a little the temps go near 100ºC. Sometimes it even crash and reboot.

Any ideas?

 

biklas7: Based on your screen shot, it looks like you understand how to set up ThrottleStop. The problem is that your laptop uses a heatsink and fan that is not adequate to cool that CPU or you don't have it installed correctly or a little of both. It's OK to remove thermal pads and stuff like that but you have to make sure that when you do any modifications that the heatsink is still firmly attached to the CPU or it will overheat. It can't be flopping around. I'm not familiar with your HP so you'll have to look very closely at this. You might have to use some washers or come up with some other trick to increase the force between the heatsink and CPU.

If the HP cooling solution isn't up to the job then you might not be able to run an X9100 at its designed speed let alone overclock it. I probably wouldn't bother with a CPU swap. A P or T series will run a little slower but might need more voltage at the same speed to be stable so you might not see any significant difference in core temperatures. I'd just run the X9100 at whatever speed you can get away with.

You can also set up a second profile in ThrottleStop and use the Alarm feature so when your CPU gets up to say 90C, ThrottleStop will automatically switch profiles to something a little slower to keep the heat from getting too high. When the core temperature gets under 90C, it will automatically go back to your full speed profile.

 

Thank you for this info... I will see what i can do, and post back here any changes

And by the way, your program is very good, keep the good work

Thanks

 

The Real Bottom Line is that there is something wrong with the cooling of this cpu. Either that or the cpu itself has a problem. Other people report 'normal' operating temps.

Undervolting isn't going to fix that.

 

I think the proplem is the heatsink... Probaly is not firmly attached to the cpu... I will buy some thermal paste to reapply in the cpu and i will see if the cpu is well installed... if it is the problem probaly is the cpu itself... But is strange that i'm the only one with overheating problems with this cpu...

Thank everyone who tried to help me with this, i will see what i can do

 

when you go to take it apart and all, take some pictures (a decent quality camera is preferred, borrow one from a friend if you can) so we can see what the cooling situation is on your laptop

 

Ok... I will do that... My camera is not very good but it will do the job...

 

again, id like to just chime in on correctly applying thermal grease. I recommend AS5. Remember to properly clean both the hsf surface and the cpu\chipset\gpu's die. Make sure the alcohol dries and that there are no dust. Very thinly apply AS5 evenly to all the surface of the die with a creditcard. When you attach the hsf, just make sure its tightened properly.

I'm sure you might find a use locally that you can test your chip with or if there is someone here reputable that may offer. Hope that helps.

 

Hi... I have applied some arctic cooling mx 4 thermal grease to my cpu and gpu and suddenly my heating problems disappeared... I'm so happy

Now i can run my cpu without overheat at 3458 mhz... but it sometimes reboot and i don't know why... i think that is my profile that is wrong... How much VID should i have to work in 3458 mhz?

 

Forget it... I was putting too low VID...

My problem is solved now... I want to thank everyone that have helped me...

Now is time to see how far my graphic card can go heheheh.

Thanks

 

Well lowering the VID and/or FID thus frequency isn't really a solution but a temporary fix.

I strongly suggest making sure the heatsink is screwed on evenly. Tighten the screws in the right order (diagonally).

 

The problem is solved, but thanks