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    Changing motherboard HP-15b

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by tomovka, Aug 24, 2016.

  1. tomovka

    tomovka Newbie

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    Hello.
    i have HP-15b130sc laptop, with 709176-501 motherboard (amd). Currently, both integrated 7600G and dedicated 8550M gpus shows code 43. I have tried installing various versions of drivers by many different way (ddu, program manager,...), and nothing helped. I have bought this board as a replacement for my old board (too 709176-501) which get burned out on two spots.

    But i can run Sheltered, and sometimes The Eye of the Dragon (but very low fps).

    When i open the laptop, everything seems to be working fine, even the heatpipe for dedicated gpu is heated (even more than the one for the cpu)

    And I'm not brave enought to reball my whole board (never did it before, and i need atleast MS office and internet for university. And throwing my board in oven is kind of weird, and i don't have heat gun.

    Trying to get to advanced bios via F10+A always fail. And i never had flashed bios, so I fear the brick.

    After years of problems with AMD drivers (the never worked for me well anyways), the only solution that came to my mind was to get intel+nvidia.

    I have searched for very long time about compatibility issues, and found none (only the wifi cards used are different, but i can fix it by using usb wifi). All connectors where they should be (one extra PCie slot, but that i will use for ssd), all voltages (both on battery and cable) same.

    Found these boards:
    goo.gl/SLsb5c


    goo.gl/JPACfF

    The main difference is between cpu and video memory:
    The first one is my favourite in this "race" (1GHz cpu clock difference to the other one) with i5-3317U and 2GB video memory, but they find it useless and exaggerated on game-debate.com.

    The second one is with i3-3217 and 1GB video memory.

    I want to use my notebook for some basic gaming, like LoL, Planetary Annihilation, WoW, Dawn of War 2. And i never was with intel+nvidia, so i don't know how good they are. That's because i'm asking here.

    So i finally got to the questions:

    1) Is there any way i haven't tried yet to revive my dedicated gpu?

    2) Which one of the boards is more suitable for me?
     
  2. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    Note that both links show an i3-3217U CPU. There is no additional RAM for the video for either board. That will depend on how much RAM you install yourself (and the BIOS lets you allocate to the igpu).

    I do not game, but I do have systems based on the i3-3217U (NUC's w/16GB RAM and 500GB+ SSD's) and I find them laggy even browsing the O/S or the 'net with a few browsers windows and tabs open (compared to any non 'U' CPU and especially a QC i7 with 16GB RAM or more + SSD. I would be surprised if these give adequate 'gaming' performance for you.

    Last, but maybe the most important thing to note is that if these M/B links are not specifically for your notebook, you may find that the board simply doesn't fit at all (or, the ports, power connections and other critical/important pieces are not where they should be (each notebook has it's own unique configuration, even within model lines, ime).

    I wish you luck, but would suggest saving for a newer and more beefier platform instead for your intended workloads.
     
  3. tomovka

    tomovka Newbie

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    StormJumper Notebook Virtuoso

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    AFAIK that isn't a gaming laptop - that is why you run at low resolution if you want to game hard get a Dedicate Gaming laptop your off the shelf laptop will not handle gaming.
     
  5. tomovka

    tomovka Newbie

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    I find this completely irrelevant to this thread. The hell!

    1) not all laptops suitable for gaming are directly marked "gaming"
    2) This laptop provided me enough performance as long as it was working correctly. I made this thread, because some people said to me that it doesnt matter whether i grap the i3 or i5, so i wanted to ask more people.
    3) I RUN AT LOW RES SINCE GPU'S ARE FOR SOME REASON NOT WORKING. Read before commenting please. I tried to explain the whole problem as much as i was able to.
     
  6. ichangedmyname

    ichangedmyname Notebook Consultant

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    I remember some laptops i disassembled had different mounting holes because it was amd or intel.
    I'm not sure about this one, but you might need a new heatsink as well.

    I read that you searched about compatibility issues, just watch out for that too.

    Well, as a lol player, i never needed any dedicated graphic card to run it on 60fps 1080p. intel hd3000 on 2nd gen intel cpus seems to handle it just fine
     
  7. tomovka

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    Well it seems that my integrated works weird since i get no direct3d or opengl support but i can run a directx 9.0 game. And thats the problem i want to fix, since i assume that dedicated gpu is dead (f.e. when i tried to install xubuntu i got frozen black screen with few lines of text, the last of them saying "failed to initialize GPU" (or something like that)
     
  8. tilleroftheearth

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    Thanks for the correct link. ;)

    For 40% more $$$ you get about 35% more performance (for both single and multi-threaded 'scores').

    See:
    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=764&cmp[]=816

    See:
    http://ark.intel.com/compare/65707,65697


    As you can see from the second link above, the igpu is identical along with (almost) everything else (pertinent).

    The i5's ability to turbo up to 2.6GHz for small time slices is noteworthy; and will improve the games you want to play provided you install the best RAM (highest frequency, lowest latency, dual channel; maxed) available (igpu's greatly benefit from optimized memory).

    What you may want to do/try before buying a new board though:

    Buy (with return policy) a new HDD/SSD or use/borrow one from a friend for a couple of hours.

    Remove your current storage subsystem and test the following on the new/borrowed drive.

    Do a clean install of the latest O/S supported by your system (recommend Win10x64 Pro).

    Does that fix your issues? If it does, go ahead and do a clean install on your own drive.

    If it doesn't, make sure the boards you are choosing are the exact boards for your model notebook. And buy the one with the most bang for the buck for you (even if it costs a few more absolute dollars, now).

    Good luck.

     
  9. tomovka

    tomovka Newbie

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    By the time i was about to buy that board, i searched for once more whether my original board is available, and found nice offer: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free...15-B-DSC-A70M-NP-DA0U56MB6E0/32498642091.html . So i am thinking about it, because for 38,15% less i will get similar CPU and better GPU - i'm not with deep knowledge in this, but i know that shaders matter.

    On the other hand, two sellers had corfimed me that it is complatible, and the rest is not responding.

    When i first installed replacement mobo, i booted ubuntu, saw that it freezes when booting, so i made a fresh install of Win10 (automatically got installed "Home"). And it was not working from the beggining. And as i said, even ubuntu was not able to initialize GPU, so it must be dead (i assume so cause i think that where windows fails there ubuntu wins).