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    Clevo W230ST / XMG P303 help about ssd RAID 0

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by AndreaCatania, Aug 17, 2013.

  1. AndreaCatania

    AndreaCatania Newbie

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    Hello everyone, it's my first post on this Forum

    I bought the XMG P303 / Clevo W230ST, but I haven't received it yet
    I had seen on this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo-reviews-owners-lounges/725922-htwingnuts-sager-np7330-clevo-w230st-review.html
    (This is the link to the video: RAID - YouTube)
    which "HTWingNut" had upgraded the system with 2 ssd Raid 0.

    I'm newbie and I have some questions. :D

    My configuration hasn't this 2 ssd but i would buy in the future, and it has the 500GB HDD.
    I would use 2 operative system (windows 7 or 8 and linux opensuse12.3)



    When i upgrade my system with 2 ssd in Raid 0:

    -I need format all and reinstall with right configuration?

    -I need specific driver in windows and linux for this machine, or i just need to set it on the bios?

    -Where can i buy this memory?

    -How can I find the better?

    -When i need to store something, I need select the device where it will be stored or it process automatically like a RAM? :confused: :confused:




    Thank all, sorry for my bad english and my low skill with hardware :) if you need more information tell me please.

    Best regards Andrea :hi2:.
     
  2. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    1. Format and reinstall - yes
    2. Drivers not required but recommend installing Intel RST (Rapid Storage Drivers)
    3. If by memory do you mean SSD? Buy anywhere, Amazon, etc. I recommend Crucial M4 or Plextor M5M and if you go with Crucial M500 get 256GB at least, smaller ones performance is not so good.
    4. It's just like a regular hard drive.

    RAID is not necessary though, not at all. Just buy a 256GB or 512GB SSD and be done. :)
     
  3. AndreaCatania

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    ohh... I hoped it was you to reply to this topic :D :D

    Thank so much,

    I would build Raid 0 for increase the performance on SSD :)D crazy) where possible of course...

    but first i have to understand how it all works,

    Before ask the questions I want specify my hypothetical set of memory
    Raid 0: ssd 120 mSata + ssd 120 mSata.
    Normal storage: 500 hdd

    -This kind of set (Raid 0) is managed only by hardware, and the operative system is independent, so linux / windows / or hackintosh can be installed without problem right?

    -What is the difference about the 2 kind ssd mentioned by you?

    -There are some difference between mSata or Sata? the small ssd memory (mSata) make lower pefformance?

    -I would install the operative system like you (in the ssd Raid 0), but i have 500 GigaByte hdd, i need to set it as secondary memory or the controller handles all i/o ports in the same way?

    I know that the last question is shameful, but i need to know :confused:


    1 million thank for reply my post, ;)
    Best regards Andrea:thumbsup:
     
  4. HTWingNut

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    The BIOS can be configured for RAID 0 or RAID 1, so no matter what OS is used, it sees it only as a single drive. Only issue is that you will may need the Intel drivers at installation to see the RAID config.

    You mean mSATA vs SATA? or Plextor vs Crucial? Crucial M4 is a little slower but in reality you will never notice.

    Depends on the SSD. For the Plextor M5M and Crucial M4 the performance is nearly identical whether SATA or mSATA.

    In the BIOS you just set the Boot OS drive and the other drive you just format and configure how you wish.

    In all honesty I would recommend just getting a single 240GB or 256GB SSD. The cost will be less than the 2x120GB and in real world performance you won't notice any difference. And not worth the headache imho.
     
  5. AndreaCatania

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    You has recommended this because the Raid 0 not support TRIM and it will lose performance?
     
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    RAID 0 is supported with TRIM now as well.
     
  7. AndreaCatania

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    So why you advise me for no make raid 0? there is a more important reason, or just because I should not do this experiment, (I would like to create this raid 0 just to try this experiment :D)?
     
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    If it's just to experiment, go for it. But it just consumes more power, generates more heat, and increases your risk of losing data (of course you should have all your data backed up regularly anyhow) all while only improving sequential reads/writes and not so significant in the other areas.
     
  9. AndreaCatania

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    oh.. ok perfect i have got all info :D

    The last question is what is the best in performance ssd 256GB mSata and the more durability without loosing performance?

    After your answere I think I will set the raid 0 in another PC :D :D and hhd
     
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    Is it possible to install OS mavericks or older on the clevo laptop?
     
  11. AndreaCatania

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    I didn't try yet with maverick, i have ubuntu 13.04 installed on, I did try to install ubuntu 13.10 and I had some issue.
    I think this laptop is good only for windows... I'm not totally happy for this purchase.
     
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    It uses stock common components, so you would run into this issue with any machine really. It's generic Intel/nVidia, so if drivers don't work for this laptop they won't for others either. RAID is a fickle beast and I would leave it alone unless you have an absolute need for it. There is little performance incentive with SSD.