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    Connecting New Laptop to Monitor Question

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Drew1, Oct 19, 2014.

  1. Drew1

    Drew1 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I recently purchased a sager 2740 laptop from xoticpc and it will take a while to receive it and have question. I always used laptop or desktop and connected it to monitor.


    My asus laptop i connected it to a monitor via VGA the blue cable. There isn't a dvi spot on my laptop.


    I also have an xps 8100 desktop that could connect to a monitor by either VGA or DVI- the white/gray cable.


    With my asus u45jc-a1, is vga or hdmi my only 2 options to connect to a monitor?


    I assume hdmi is always an option to connect from any laptop to a monitor? Is hdmi basically any method of connecting computer to monitor such as vga or dvi?


    I took a look at the sager 2740 laptop specifications and i see hdmi but i don't see vga or dvi. Does that mean i will have to get an HDMI cable to connect to a monitor? Or does it has the vga or dvi? Obviously if it has vga or dvi i wouldn't need to get an hdmi cable. Just want to make sure here as i haven't used an hdmi cable.


    XOTIC PC | Sager NP2740 (Clevo W740SU) - New 14" Sager Notebook

    Would either of these be fine for the sager 2740 and an external monitor?

    Also, whats the difference between with ethernet vs the one without?

    Also, is there a reason why ppl need very long hdmi? I assume if you going to connect a laptop to a big tv across the room, you going to need a pretty long hdmi? But if you just going to connect the monitor to the laptop very close, then 10 feet is more then enough? I will be connecting the sager 2740 to an external monitor the whole time and want to make sure it would work


    Link Depot 10' Gold Plated High Speed HDMI Cable - Walmart.com

    Link Depot 10' High Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet - Walmart.com
     
  2. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame

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    These are your two outputs:
    What inputs does your monitor have?

    Anyways, DVI and HDMI are electronically identical, the connector is different, HDMI also carries audio, but the video pinout is exactly the same. So you could get a HDMI to DVI adapter if needed.

    Also, display port can output to basically anything, so you could also go for a mini DP -> VGA/DVI/HDMI adapter as well.
     
  3. TriBeard

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    DVI carries audio too. It's not wide spread knowledge, but it does. If your monitor has speakers/audio out you can just run DVI and get audio to it, or if you use an HDMI adapter on either end to plug in to a TV, receiver, or whatever, it works there as well. HDMI is really only "better" because it has a smaller connector, and HDMI 2.0 can support higher resolutions.
     
  4. Drew1

    Drew1 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hi. The thing is this. At the moment im using my asus u45jc-a1 laptop connected to an old 2007 dell fp monitor via vga cable. Can you tell me if thats the only way to connect to it? I don't see any hdmi cable slot in the back of my 2007fp. Theres a dvi slot in the monitor but no dvi in my asus laptop.


    The thing is the sager laptop, i will be connecting it to a 24' 1920x1200 monitor. The thing is im not sure which im going to get. The thing is if that monitor doesn't have hdmi... then what are my options? Since theres no way i could do vga or dvi since the sager one doesn't have either of those 2 options? Im not sure about the min display port as i never heard of it but is it basically if the monitor doesn't have HDMI... it will HAVE TO HAVE Mini Display port? I just checked and it basically connects an hdmi cable to it so i assume it connects hdmi to mini display port then to the external monitor?


    So display port you can output to anything. But if that monitor doesn't have hdmi... how would i do hdmi then? Or it cannot do it?


    Also i see hdmi 1.4s output port. Does that mean those 2 links i posted won't work because the sager requires a different hdmi port then other laptops?

    The thing is this was the monitor i bought a year ago and it was new and used it with my old asus laptop.


    Amazon.com: Compaq Business LA2405x 24" LED LCD Monitor - 16:10 - 5 ms - Adjustable Display Angle - 1920 x 1200 - 250 Nit - 1,000:1: Computers & Accessories


    I connected it to my asus u45jc-a1 with a vga cable. They also came with dvi but my asus didn't have a dvi slot. But can you tell me if this came with an HDMI? Also when buying a new monitor, do almost all monitors come with dvi cable, vga cable and hdmi cable? I don't have this monitor anymore but i recalled when i got it, it came with 1 vga cable and 2 Dvi cables. But do monitors that are to be used with hdmi... do they generally supply you with one or you have to buy one yourself?


    So monitors that only use dvi or hdmi... they supply dvi and hdmi cable or just dvi?


    So since my new sager laptop will have hdmi, mini display and those usb 3.0s... i wont get the usb to dvi adapter if its 50 dollar whereas another option is less and basically the same thing. Someone said if i get this option it cost much more.




    So basically assuming the new monitor only has DVI, then my options are


    1. HDMI to DVI Adapter

    2. Mini display port to DVI Adapter


    But almost all monitors should have more than 1 option right? Thus if it has DVI, it must have either VGA as well or HDMI? And some might have all 3?





    But if the monitor has DVI and VGA then its basically



    1. HDMI to DVI Adapter

    2. HDMI to VGA Adapter

    3. Mini display port to DVI Adapter

    4. Mini display port to VGA Adapter


    Is that correct?
     
  5. Krane

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    You all mixed up with your port and connectors, but I'll try and put things in perspective. First, The bad news is that all of these save HDMI are obsolete connectors. Meaning they're not making any new ones

    In the case of HDMI 1.4 (current), it will soon be updated to HDMI 2.0 with a much wider bandwidth to support 4k, deep color and other updates.

    Now for the good news. As tijo already stated, regardless of the ports you have a simple adapter can be added to connect to your devices. In the case of VGA you will need a much more expensive active converter since it is an analogue signal.

    For the record, HDMI is a consumer port mainly used for TV. While VGA, DVI, and DP are typical computer monitor ports.

    In the future, always check port comparability and connectivity with your components before you buy. You should also be well informed because ports get updated all the time, and a salesman many not inform you of the details regarding those upgrade:

    If you just ask for HDMI you may get the outgoing HDMI 1.4, not the incoming HDMI 2.0 you expect and/or need for your new system to work fully.
    DVI does not support audio. You will need an additional audio port for that.
     
  6. tijo

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    Officially, no, which is what we're all saying that DVI doesn't support audio. It is technically possible to send audio through a DVI port and some video cards can do it, but usually the DVI port on the other end (monitor) will not accept any audio input. As far as I know, it's not part of the standard at all and it's basically meant for a DVI to HDMI setup where the HDMI end is connected to a HDTV or a similar device.

    The OP could also get something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Gefen-HDMI-Ca...=1413826589&sr=8-4&keywords=hdmi+to+dvi+cable

    As Krane said, HDMI to VGA is a bad idea, it's more expensive and requires signal conversion.
     
  7. Drew1

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    Okay so which cable would you suggest me to get then


    I will be using the new sager 2740 laptop mainly. Thus it has HDMI and minidisplay and three of those 3.0 usb ports. So you suggest if the monitor i buy the new one which is going to be a
    24' 1920x1200 monitor and it doesn't have hdmi... then i just have to buy the HDMI to DVI cable like this one?


    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Link-Dep...D-Dual-Link-to-High-Speed-HDMI-Cable/15074943


    Then i just connect hdmi end to my sager laptop... then the DVI part to the DVI chord of the monitor to the monitor?




    But if the new monitor has HDMI, then i just get an hdmi cable like this one and don't need the HDMI to DVI cable?


    Highs high speed hdmi cable with ethernet - Walmart.com


    I want to make sure because im going to get one of these right now or possibly get both. I won't know which new monitor i will be getting until later on and the last thing i want is to have the monitor then i find out i don't have the proper cable. So basically just 2 cable choices for me right now right?


    And thus the mini display to dvi is something i shoould just avoid as it cost more? And obviously avoid minidisplay to vga b/c its vga?


    Also just to make sure there would be zero point of getting a mini display port to hdmi cable then right? Since if monitor doesn't have hdmi... then that wont work? And if monitor has hdmi, no point in getting this as the regular hdmi would be enough?
     
  8. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    When you decide what monitor you want, come back and we can tell you what cables and/or adapters you will need. Without this, you're wasting your time and ours, and it's clearly confusing you.
     
  9. Drew1

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    The reason why i ask this is b/c im not sure how its goig to be like getting a new monitor in the country i will be going to. So if thats the case, dont see you how it would be a problem if i have the monitor then cant connect to the sager laptop that only has hdmi etc?
     
  10. Drew1

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    Hey thank you very much. Few other short questions i have. I will be buying 2 cables then, one thats an hdmi cable and another that is a HDMI to DVI cable since this old monitor i have at the moment, the only way to use it with my sager laptop would be hdmi to dvi.


    1. Since the laptop connected to the monitor is going to be pretty close, is a 6 feet cable going to be good enough or it might be too short? Or should i get a 10 feet cable? I will be getting 2 cables so just wondering if i should get a little longer one as 10 feet as oppose to 6 feet or should 6 feet be more than enough. The thing is my sager laptop will be connected to the monitor and it should be pretty close. Then i will connect a keyboard to my sager laptop and that would be my keyboard.


    2. Is there a reason ppl need really long hdmi or hdmi to dvi cables or dvi cables in general? The thing is if its for laptop to monitor it seems like short cable is good but why do ppl want long cable? Is it b/c the laptop is going to be far from the tv such as they want to have the laptop with them while sitting in their sofa or bed whereas the tv is like 8 feet from them and they want a 10 feet or 15 feet cable? Im curious do ppl who connect laptop to their TVs... do majority of them keep the laptop very close to the tv or its pretty far away? What i dont get is if someone has a really long hdmi or dvi or hdmi to dvi cable... isn't that not good b/c the cable will be going through the room they are in and thus through the floor and someone can't really walk across the room without having to go over it if that makes sense?


    3. Better buy from walmart as oppose to ebay right? Price will be a bit more on walmart but not too much.
     
  11. TriBeard

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    All I know is I've had audio come out of a 4850, 5850, and r9 290 from the DVI port and then through an HDMI adapter into my receiver, and I'm pretty sure it carries to my monitor as well (asus pa248q) though I'd have to double check on that. I know it's not something that was ever widely used or adopted, but I know it can do it.

    I would get an HDMI to DVI cable and use that to connect to your monitor as it's probably the cheapest and easiest route to go. You can also just get an adapter if you like. Something like either one of these:

    10ft 28AWG High Speed HDMI® to DVI Adapter Cable w / Ferrite Cores - Black - Monoprice.com

    or

    M1-D(P&D) Female to HDMI® Male Adapter - Monoprice.com

    You could also use the displayport if you wanted, but adapters for that can be a little more expensive, and there's really no benefit in this case.
     
  12. Drew1

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    Okay im bit confused yet again. The HDMI to DVI cable... are there different types? Thus a hdmi to dvi cable like the link i posted but theres also a hdmi to dvi ADAPTER? Or are the cable and adapter the same thing?
     
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    The cable would just let you plug one end in to your monitor and one end in to your laptop and be done with it. The adapter would just turn the HDMI port on your laptop into a DVI port so you could use whatever DVI cable you had laying around already to connect it to your monitor. Either one will work, there's no need to order both.
     
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    Okay so just to make sure, getting one each, the DVI to HDMI, and the HDMI cable would then be good enough where i don't have to worry about anything else right? The reason i want to get a regular hdmi cable is if the new monitor has hdmi then i would just connect hdmi to hdmi. Also all new monitors do have a DVI cable no matter what right?


    Because if yes, then wouldn't it be fine just getting the DVI to HDMI cable and the regular HDMI cable isn't necessary? Whats the difference between using HDMI cable from laptop to monitor as oppose to dvi to hdmi cable from laptop to monitor? I believe the picture quality is the same thing right? The only thing i recall is the dvi to hdmi won't have audio... but if i'm connecting from laptop to monitor, shouldn't it not matter since its the laptop speakers and no monitor has speakers? But if i connect laptop to monitor, then hdmi is more important b/c the speaker soudn will come from the TV AS OPPOSE TO MONITOR. Is that correct?


    Link Depot 2m Male Gold Plated DVI-D Dual Link to High Speed HDMI Cable - Walmart.com


    Highs high speed hdmi cable with ethernet - Walmart.com
     
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    Before we continue this exercise, what country are you moving to?


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