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    Convert laptop matte \ anti glare screen to glossy!! (I think this might be the first answer you will ever find on the INTERNET)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by guily6669, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. guily6669

    guily6669 Notebook Consultant

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    Hey folks,

    I have searched for hours on GOOGLE, and seen only thousands of questions of people wanting to convert Matte\Anti glare Laptop screen to High Gloss, and couldn't anything.

    I only found reference about a dell NORMAL DESKTOP SCREEN (So I inspired my self in his tut).

    ♫Tutorial:

    ( Thank you (however made that video). This was the only source I could find and the same tut on Dell screens from other guys too, nothing about laptops).


    -> So everyone just simply say It's not possible (or probably not possible) to convert a laptop matte screen to gloss, because it's all made from factory kinda embed 4 ever. Buy a new screen is always the answer.


    So I was dumb enough to try on a old LG 19 inch "actually made it yesterday"(it's a normal desktop screen).



    ♪ This is the Result of my Desktop Screen: ( Just a test):

    It actually worked on my LG screen ( VERY SURPRISED)

    THIS IS A TRUE NORMAL MATTE SCREEN FROM LG 19INCH (Normal LCD, not LED backlight)

    (Normal matte screen display)


    (Finally can have a gloss Desktop screen for first time:thumbsup:. Also you can see the AG coating removed)

    Note: The Desktop screen, had a few years, it was very easy to remove, it didn't even needed water for real (I just passed a wet cloth a few times, and didn't let actual water in it for any kind of time).



    ♣♦♪♪♦♣ NOW THE LAPTOP

    This is a brand new LAPTOP (has like 3 months). I'm not rich and a new screen would cost me like 5 months of savings. So I was more than scared to even try



    But the thing is I hate MATTE SCREENS (they stopped making this laptop model in glossy just one month before I bought it, so now every come matte).


    The problem is, the matte screen used in this laptop is HORRIBLE

    Mine looked almost like this:
    [​IMG]

    It had this kind of grainy, though it was like half as bad as that picture, and the grain was colourful ANNOYING.
    And this doesn't seem a defective thing, since all matte have a little grain (even if you have to go near it), but almost all look decent and good and without those colourful dots. But lately other models of laptops are also bringing this bad screens :mad:.


    I pointed a flashlight at the screen while OFF. I could still see the grain even with screen off. So I started thinking it might also work to remove the AG layer from the screen.


    So I opened it and found this:


    ( ██ = exterior part of the full screen ---||--- ██ = Line where it has definitely something above screen)

    I was way too scared to even think about putting water on a brand new laptop, so no chance for me to do it...

    As you can see on the 2nd original pic above there's a big scratch. I tried to remove that thing that looked like a AG (anti glare layer), but I hade no idea if I was actually pushing the full screen out or damaging it.


    I never wanted to put water in this screen, so I tried removing the cover or something with a sharp blade, and actually made a deep scratch, and it was so damn hard, and it haven't even lifted anything. I STOPPED AT THIS POINT WHERE I ALMOST DEEP SCRATCHED THE SCREEN (gratefully it scratched on exterior of a visible part. This was also yesterday)

    Today I was getting pissed with the grain again, and even more by the time ticking. So I just didn't thought and decided to actually put water. THAT'S IT, I DECIDED TO DO IT!! So I disassembled screen again, but still, tried again everything without using water again ( Was getting scared to damage it again), but hell I couldn't really find a way to remove it (DRY). IT's WAY HARDER THAN THE DESKTOP LCD (I wasn't sure anymore If that was a cover, or the actual screen and if it was all factory sealed together...).



    ☻ But HELL, This Is What FINALLY HAPPENED:

    I was pissed, so no more DRY things.



    I used a little Duct-tape to seal screen exterior, so water wouldn't damage it. Also I passed my finger around every original screen aluminium tape and so on, so that they really glue and don't let water inside.

    After, I used normal water on papper towels (I removed water excess). I changed towels 1 time again after a few hours. Total time wet was around 4 hours.

    From time to time, I was putting more water above papper with the tip of my finger, to maintain WET


    ♣♦♪♪♦♣Result:

    After the 4 hours WET, it actually wasn't that much hard anymore. (Though my Desktop LCD didn't even needed water).

    F***, HELL YEAH ( HEHE, finally shiny thing appearing ):thumbsup:



    ( No, this ain't photoshop. I have reflective keys on the laptop, and I aimed a white led at the laptop keyboard, and it's reflecting well on the NEW CONVERTED FROM MATTE TO GLOSS SCREEN:thumbsup :).

    ► Still couldn't realize if screen got damaged or not

    ► Time for some cleaning






    ♣♦♪♪♦♣THE BIG FINAL!


    IT WORK :thumbsup::thumbsup:


    ( Right pic: the actual black laptop on the right side is a TRUE GLOSSY laptop screen, i know it doesn't look like it is... it's because of pic quality).

    Did I get ride of flashing colourful dots? Well, YES. I can see that the screen is really not the highest quality, but still, it Looks AWESOME NOW :D (~The photos were taken with led backlight on low settings...)



    ۞ COLORand pixel testing.


    Where are the dot grain now? :D (all the effects seen are from camera, it's clean now, and all i can see from close are pure PIXELS:thumbsup:)





    ( Photos taken with LED backlight on low settings, but in real life still looks a ten times more brighter and more quality)

    The last picture above, actually is not with screen OFF It's actually ON, just showing black fullscreen color (improved a lot the quality, no more gray's on the black. It looks deep black, almost like if the screen were Turned OFF)

    No water leak, no dead pixels. 1st picture is actually PURE SNOW DEEP WHITE (camera doesn't show it).





    -> Original Thread:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/700497-doubts-w110er-screen-suck.html


    ps: Thank You to everyone who posted there ;). NOW YOU KNOW THE SECRET
    Keep Cool

    Don't try this at home, unless you know what you are doing.

    I'm not responsible for any of your actions in case someone damage a screen

    If you still gonna do this, please use duct-tape to avoid water damage, and remove the static electricity from your body first. Take special care with the cable on the back of the screen which is very fragile and easily breaks
     
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  2. HTWingNut

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    Good guide. Except funny thing is most people can only find glossy screens and want matte!
     
  3. guily6669

    guily6669 Notebook Consultant

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    That's pretty true. But hey, if a TRUE MATTE SCREEN AFTER ALL IS JUST A SHINNY SCREEN with a " AG" layer above it...

    Then it means adding those " AG" sticker's layers that we find in shops will probably do the trick. There must be some with even better quality than the factory one used on this laptop for example that made it to have TERRIBLE colourful grains, and now it doesn't even look like it's the same screen. (Looks like a HP Ultra Crystal screen now).

    ps: I don't think the screen makers are the only one to have access to good quality "AG" covers. I don't know for sure, but I think everyone can have access to them.
    Keep Cool
     
  4. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    This is unbelievable and very good to know!
     
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    souskei Notebook Consultant

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    Awesome!!!!
     
  6. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    I have in fact seen a guide for this before - on the internet. I think it may have been in the depths of hack-a-day.

    I tried this once with a dead LCD. It did NOT work out well for me! You MUST be VERY careful and know what you're doing or you might also end up trying to remove the glossy protective coating of the LCD! I think the key is to be sure its easy to remove the outer coating, if its too difficult to remove, you're not doing it right.

    To clarify, the glossy coating that is not meant to be removed would be fine to remove (although your LCD would be more fragile) except for the fact that the glue they use is much more serious and WONT come off (even with goo gone).
     
  7. guily6669

    guily6669 Notebook Consultant

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    niffcreature, I have seen on the internet how to do it, but only for a certain model of DELL screens (didn't even know if it was possible on my LG).

    If you see well, the video I posted is not mine, and I thank him for the video. Now in the laptop, I couldn't find any info, and even my self thought it would be all fused together...


    So if you scratch your matte screen, and send for repair and they charge you a full screen saying it needs full replacement, probably all they did was use some kind of industrial liquid they have that makes it come out Fast and Easy, and just simply put a new layer of AG.


    ps: If anyone ever send a screen for scratch repair and have no warranty, remember to mark the screen somewhere, so you can see if they really replaced it for a new one (or maybe the hardware serial ID)...


    EDIT: If I ever find a half matte, half glossy sticker layers with good quality, I might buy and try. I love my LG led it's matte, but still kinda shinny, and have AWESOME quality. Now my Led Samsung is completely MATTE, 0% reflections, the quality is still pretty good without those dots, but doesn't look as good as the LG. (But it's more because if I scratch the screen, there's probably no more layers to remove :) ).
    Keep Cool
     
  8. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    Great job and your new glossy display looks fantastic!
     
  9. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    I didn`t even know this was possible and I thought it was the other way around: Glossy screens have coating while matte screens is just unprocessed screens