Core i7 Arrandale to feature graphics Turbo Mode

Fudzilla reports Arrandale, the next generation dual core chip based on the Nehalem uarch, will feature Turbo Mode on not only the CPU, but the GPU as well. The increase is supposed to be significant, going from 500MHz base clock to maximum of 766MHz.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15307/1/

 

It still doesn't matter.... Intel GPU's will always be crap compared to NVDIA or ATI ones...

 

but at least they're headed in the right direction

 

For someone like me, who doesn't play games(save for the occasional flash game), and only needs to be able to view HD content, an Intel card is all I need. The extra battery life and less heat is always a plus.

As long as the card can handle HD content and give me smooth GUI performance in Windows, I'm happy. So far so good.

 

Me too. I only play 2 games, and both work good on integrated graphics.

 

I am going to give up my mercedes becuase all I need is a prius..

I have never understood the nail myself to the cross mentality verse having perfromance?

All I need is the fastest tool for the job..

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~George Bernard Shaw~

 

intel cards are not focused on people that play games, thats why performace will always be lacking compared to Nvidia and ATI,

its not because intel has no idea what they are doing or puts out bad chips on purpose like sean473 puts it

 

It's not that they're not focused on people that play games, it's just that games demand more from your graphics card. Hence the less powerful card will have more difficulties playing the game. You can't say intel graphics is as good as nvidia or ati, you know it isn't true. But it's cheaper and well, nvidia and ati only do graphics on notebooks, so it's understandable that they get better technology and better performance than Intel.

But the turbo mode sounds promising. I like it
Can't wait to see how it increases performance.

 

I agree with you in almost every situation, but there should be one black eye for Intel. Intel put out the 945 (or was it 950) chipset knowing full well it wasn't up to snuff with HD content and sure as Hell couldn't run Vista Aero. They ed and moaned to Microsoft until Microsoft relented and changed their Vista Capable program.

 

It'd be unreasonable to have a 17"+ gaming computer with quad core, SLI, and the like when all I need to get my job done is my E4300, not to mention I don't game. Having "the best and fastest" doesn't always equal more efficient. Again, not to mention that I need battery life and portability. Why waste the money or energy on a machine I won't use to it's full potential?

Your entire post is one big misused quote.

 

You make valid points but what im saying is, Im sure intel could make an awesome integrated chip on the level of the 9400m, but the r&d put in would not justify their money put in. Intel probably won't ever make an integrated chip that can play games like the 9400m or the hd3200 (is that the ati one? lol sry for being a ati noob) because the market for those high end integrated chips is already taken by those two chips, and it would not be a good business decision to go compete when they have the entire low end market.

 

I think Intel designs there IGP's to be just enought and to consume that absolute minimum amount of power... that is why I opted for the intel IGP.

 

You are maninstream, your desires are mainstream and your needs are mainstream thus.....

I dont understand how YOUR behavior makes a quote in accurate?

If you are middle of the road.. it is fine.. MOST people are.. no biggie.. just ZERO innovation comes from the middle.

Thats the point.

Sorry to offend and / or point out the obvious.

Be well, JW

 

Adding some drama for the fun of it
Let me say that getting the best isn't so eazy on laptops, because usually with power comes lower battery life and less portability. If these two weren't factors, and that you would have unlimited budget for your purchase, then getting the most powerful laptop is the logical choice. Unfortunately, that never happens.

The intel card can be a better choice because it costs less and produces less heat. So it isn't really up to choosing the most powerful card here, since the heat and price go up. It's all about choosing the one that fits your needs.

 

always going for the most powerfull component is clearly stupid as it's not always suited for everyones needs or usage of the laptop.

for me a laptop is about portability and efficency without cables everywhere whilst doing business. Within that setting, a powerfull Nvida card is clearly not the best card, but rather a bad choice, as an integrated intel would suit my need's better and contribute to the better configuration.

 

The 950 runs aero fine and can run HD content easily too. My EEE ran Vista and Windows 7 with aero, and played up to 720p in Media Player fine.

 

All innovation does not come at the top end of performance, that is the opposite of true. In fact, much innovation (such as increased minturization and power efficiency) comes at the low and middle segments of the performance spectrum. In fact, I would argue that without the mass market to support the costs of designing and producing new innovation in the form of large run low and mid grade parts, we would see very little in the way of high end innovation.

For instance, I would say the popularity of smart phones and netbooks is driving more innovation right now than high end gaming and workstation machines. Even in the world of supercomputing, lots of the most interesting, most groundbreaking work is being done on clusters of low cost machines, not on the massive behemoth machines (though those of course do have a place).

 

the vista capable drama was not just the chipset, but it was being put on computers that lack the cpu and ram to run vista aero well

 

$400 to $1,000 plus dollar cell phones are not the middle market.. you can expand the affordable net books are using bottom rung tech.. and finding boosts in SSD's which are once again not middle market.

So the high dollar niche does suffer the R&D plus costs of lifting the broader market performance wise..

IMHO..

But I of course have been wrong before and I am sure I will be wrong again.

Be well, JW

 

You are conflating higher dollar with strictly higher performance though. No one would argue that an expensive cell phone matches even the performance of a decent netbook. And even then, high end phones cost about the same as low end laptops (since they basically are just low powered computers), so even though they are expensive for phones, in the grander picture they are actually pretty cheap. Also, strictly speaking, the developments we are seeing now like CULV procs and other new tech targeted at netbooks and ultraportables are far from exclusive to the high end of the market. I'm not saying that there is no development at the high perf end of the market, or that much development is cheap, but that development is not only concentrated at the high perf and expensive ends.

 

OT, but no cellphones perform remotely near even the slowest Netbook. What they offer for the performance sacrifice is the low power consumption.

 

The quote itself may not be inaccurate, but the context in which you used it (to insult us "mainstream people") is wrong.

Just because someone has a more powerful computer than me doesn't necessarily mean they are more productive or more efficient. Having the latest and greatest computer tech doesn't make them write reports faster, or write a C# application any faster (see where I'm going?). The ONLY advantage that type of computer has is the ability to play games. Which, let's be honest, who is productive when playing video games?

And in terms of actual hardware, the biggest innovations come in making chips smaller, use LESS power while providing the same "mainstream performance." As you said yourself, high end is a "niche." I have a 2.4 GHz processor and still get 6 hours of battery life on a single 6 cell charge. Pretty innovative if you ask me.

Can your "high end niche computer" do that?

 

Sorry was banned there for a minute...

But as to the validity of the quote.. and the authors meaning..

The reasonable man adapts himself to the conditions that surround him... The unreasonable man adapts surrounding conditions to himself... All progress depends on the unreasonable man."

I offer another piece of his work to re-affirm my logic..

"People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and if they can't find them, make them."

or...

"Lack of money is the root of all evil."

I think plainly (as I am plain as can be) that the author was not speaking on behalf of the broader market place... one more?

"Democracy is a form of government that substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few."

Maybe now we can have some clarity..

As for your 6 hour battery life.. I think that is fantastic.. now can I have an i7in a laptop.. with 3 ssd.. and sli.. and have 6 hours please?

And I dont mean the Mobile i7 either..

Point being.. someone has to buy stuff and complain so someone has job security.. and dare I say we make some head way.. by your line of thinking we all shoudl suffer intel on board Graphics Porblems.. oops I mean solutions..

So much for the last word.. sorry about your luck.

Be well, JW