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    Crucial M4 5200hrs bug fix (available)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by JKleiss, Jan 5, 2012.

  1. JKleiss

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    JKleiss, Jan 5, 2012
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    So they installed a timebomb which goes off after 5200 hours rendering the ssd useless? Good job!


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    ramgen, Jan 5, 2012
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  3. long2905

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    What the...man what kind of bug is this! Though i doubt many have got to such amount yet.
     
    long2905, Jan 5, 2012
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  4. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    5200 hr Nuke huh...seems I have roughly 4000 hrs left and counting. :rolleyes:

    ....I'll BOLO for an update from Crucial. :eek:

    Tks OP for this info. We'll see what comes of this.
     
    makaveli72, Jan 5, 2012
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  5. Generic User #2

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    give me a break. how many modern SSD controller/firmware combos HAVEN'T had an issue? the only one I can think of is the 510 (not even entirely sure about this) - thats why theres a $100+ premium on it.

    does it seem to be affecting 256GB/128GB models? most of the complaints seem to be concerning 64GB models.
     
    Generic User #2, Jan 5, 2012
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  6. Peon

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    I don't think the Samsung 470/830 have had any issues either.
     
    Peon, Jan 6, 2012
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  7. BeastRider

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    Nahh, I still love my M4. And I just started using it so I'm guessing by the time I get to 5000 hours or so, we're gonna be at firmware 0999 lol :)
     
    BeastRider, Jan 7, 2012
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  8. long2905

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    Aye! I bought my pair in september and even assuming i put the laptop on 24/7 which i did not i still got about 200 days left. Plenty of time for a fix eh?
     
    long2905, Jan 7, 2012
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  9. BeastRider

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    I'm guessing about a year or so from first boot. Hope I remember to update before I reach 5000 hours though lol
     
    BeastRider, Jan 7, 2012
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  10. Bobmitch

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    Crucial has been around a long time as well as parent Company Micron. I expect that they will be expedient about this. Right now, they have been the darlings of SATA III SSD, because of the Marvel controller. The fix should be forthcoming. I was just about to purchase an M4 to replace my Intel 320 (was going to move to the D drive position) and have two SSD's work together...guess a week or two won't hurt...
     
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  11. BeastRider

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    I for one searched long and researched hard on what SSD to get, and after reading tons of reviews (real-world performance, benchmarks, reliability, price, etc.), I decided to get the M4 and I still believe it is the best choice in the market of SSDs today. :)
     
    BeastRider, Jan 7, 2012
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    i didn't include it because I heard of an issue where it could get into a case of irrecoverable performance degradation after continous writes
     
    Generic User #2, Jan 7, 2012
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  13. Bobmitch

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    Well...looks like Samsung 830 series joins the club with other drives having issues...new firmware upgrade is a bust
     
    Bobmitch, Jan 13, 2012
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    Bobmitch, Jan 13, 2012
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    I'll be applying the fix monday, my cds are at uni so i'll burn the iso on monday and apply the fix.
     
    tijo, Jan 13, 2012
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  16. long2905

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    anyone got any trouble installing the new firmware using a flash drive? Mine got stuck after selecting default/alternate with something about initdrives not enough caches or something. Tried various methods from google to no avail. To the point I am thinking of getting a portable optical drive just for this.
     
    long2905, Jan 13, 2012
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  17. Nemix77

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    I ordered a M4 128GB yesterday when it arrives should I install firmwares 0002 - 0309 in increments or just go straight to firmware 0309?
     
    Nemix77, Jan 13, 2012
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  18. Bobmitch

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    You might want to follow this set of directions...in your bios, do you have USB as a choice in bootup order?

    How to Create Bootable Flash Drives | eHow.com

    Hopefully after that, you can copy the contents of the .iso to the drive and try to manually install the firmware

    Late addition...found this on another website...

    http://www.storagereview.com/how_upgrade_crucial_ssd_firmware
     
    Bobmitch, Jan 13, 2012
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  19. long2905

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    you can go straight to 0309

    here is what im talking about, a wall of text:

    [​IMG]

    @Bobmitch: thank you for your effort, i did tried that storagereview post first. I will rep you as soon as I am able again.

    edit: got it done by plug in both the drives and flash drive into another computer. Strange that it did not work on my laptop.

    [​IMG]
     
    long2905, Jan 13, 2012
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  20. jclausius

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    Confirmed. From the 0309 release notes:
     
    jclausius, Jan 13, 2012
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  21. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    Having updated the firmware on my M4 this morning, I have noticed that my system is noticeably snappier (ie: less laggy).

    Hope this keeps up. :)
     
    tilleroftheearth, Jan 14, 2012
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  22. BeastRider

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    Any increases in performance vs. FW 0009? :D I'm at 535MB/s read and 200MB/s write based on ATTO right now w/FW 0009. Another increase would definitely prove my point that the M4 is the best SSD out there. lol
     
    BeastRider, Jan 14, 2012
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  23. V10Ace

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    I noticed this bug last night as all of a sudden my M18x started randomly freezing/BSOD. I applied the firmware fix but I am still noticing problems..
     
    V10Ace, Jan 14, 2012
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    Yeah, just one more fix and it certainly would be the best (for Sheldon, that was sarcasm).
     
    Abidderman, Jan 14, 2012
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    In safe mode everything works fine but once I boot up normally it begins micro stuttering and eventually locks up/BSOD within 20-30 seconds of initial start up. Any ideas?
     
    V10Ace, Jan 14, 2012
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  26. govtdog

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    Was the M4 fix also for the M18x?
    How old is your M18x?
     
    govtdog, Jan 14, 2012
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  27. BeastRider

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    Just updated my M4 to FW 0309 and benched on ATTO. Performance seems to be almost the same as 0009 except for a very slight 2-5MB/s increase in write..I guess the new firmware was more of a bug fix than another breakthrough. No biggie, I couldn't possibly for anything more from my M4 lol.
     
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  28. long2905

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    Read the changelog. It is a small patch for a single bug. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
    long2905, Jan 14, 2012
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  29. GalaxySII

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    hi how did u managed boot from usb ? mine not working ..
    anyway u shouldnt put SSDs in raid cos u don't have trim and your SSD will degenerate ..
     
    GalaxySII, Jan 14, 2012
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  30. long2905

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    I put the drives and the flash stick onto another laptop. Couldnt get it to work on my M17x R3 either (waste an entire afternoon struggling).

    I know and am aware of the issue and still waiting for the legendary 11.5 RST driver from intel. However i put modt of my data onto the mechanical drive and most of the temporary files there too so the issue for now is at least minimized.
     
    long2905, Jan 14, 2012
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  31. GalaxySII

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    Why driver from intel ? u have crucial SSDs
    SSDs manuf they will start making SSDs later on with trim supports in RAID 0
     
    GalaxySII, Jan 14, 2012
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  32. long2905

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    Because intel RST is not exclusively for intel ssd. They have another app for that.
     
    long2905, Jan 14, 2012
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  33. GalaxySII

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    Can u show me your experience index Win 7 x64 ?
    thnx
     
    GalaxySII, Jan 14, 2012
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  34. long2905

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    7.6 cpu, 7.9 hdd and 7.8 for the rest. If you need a screenshot you will have to wait till later.
     
    long2905, Jan 14, 2012
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  35. GalaxySII

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    Yeah please this is mine ..
    I was hoping that I will get 7.6 for CPU ..
    Will do re-run again ..

    [​IMG]
     
    GalaxySII, Jan 14, 2012
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  36. V10Ace

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    M4 fix is for the Crucial M4 SSD. I have 2200 hours on mine. I reinstalled Windows and everything seems to be working okay on 0309 firmware. Very odd how it randomly started crashing and BSOD.
     
    V10Ace, Jan 14, 2012
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  37. GalaxySII

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    I just updated it via DVD nice and smooth
    tried USB but didn't boot couldn't mess with it so i burned disc ...
    But I never had problems even with 0002 or 0009 al same ...
     
    GalaxySII, Jan 14, 2012
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  38. long2905

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    ask and you shall receive
     

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    I have the exact same issue. To date I have never been able to update via USB. I always have to burn a cd. Funny how I'll waste an hour trying to save a 10 cent disc.
     
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    and just a hint to those that installed your M4's with SATA in raid mode...when you run boot from the cd, the M4 install app will not be able to find your M4. i had to temporarily change my SATA to AHCI, then the firmware update works great.
    THen, i had to change it back to raid mode
     
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    Updated my two M4s last night, everything went fine. Found some CD-RWs to burn the iso. I haven't seen any change in benchmarks on my laptop.
     
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    neither me
     
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    I only benched the laptop on battery. I shouldn't, i know so i'll run again plugged in and on the desktop just to make sure. Small variation on the desktop, but nothing to write home about mostly, about 40MB/s increase in 4kQD32 reads though.
     
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  44. jclausius

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    To point out the obvious, they do make CD-RWs these days. ;)
     
    jclausius, Jan 15, 2012
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    my new personal high-score AS-SSD benchmark :D
    with M4 firmware 0309

    [​IMG]

    love it <3
     
    devillucifer, Jan 16, 2012
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    I can't update it, I used the uneversal USB installer and followed this guide
    When I chose to boot I get this and nothing happens, the laptop just freezes
    Its an M17x r3, SSD is on port 1

    [​IMG]
     
    fire_storm, Jan 18, 2012
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    Others have reported problem updating from USB, have you tried burning the iso to a disc, so far the disc method never failed me.
     
    tijo, Jan 18, 2012
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    i couldnt get it to work either so if you no longer have an optical drive like me your best bet is to get another laptop or desktop to flash the new firmware.
     
    long2905, Jan 18, 2012
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    I can confirm that updating the firmware via USB did not work for me. i tried different things but i had to go back to burning the iso to a cd and booting from it.

    Also, the update only works if your SATA mode is AHCI, so if you installed your drive in RAID, switch to AHCI temporarily, boot from cd, do the update, then switch back to RAID after and boot from SSD
     
    SlickDude80, Jan 18, 2012
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    Technically, the update should work in IDE mode too. I haven't tried it though.
     
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