Crucial M4 vs Samsung 830 128gbs

Which one is better? ive ruled out the ocz ones now but ive heard great things about both
btw another off topic question that i cant be bothered to make a new thread about is...
does a 5000rpm hdd have a difference with a 7200 rpm hdd in a usb 3.0 external hard drive?

 

voted for samsung, because I use samsung 830 ssd

a 7200 rpm hdd will do better in an external case than 5400 rpm hdd .. but it's not really matter in real world test for me

 

Either, because they will both serve you well. I have a 128GB m4 in one system and just recently got the 256GB Samsung 830 for another system and have been happy with both.

 

With no other information offered by the OP, I voted for the M4 because of better power consumption numbers vs. the power hungry 830's.

As for the 5400 RPM vs. 7200 RPM in a USB3.0 enclosure? 7200 RPM easily (at least 40% faster and up to 200% depending on how much time you take to keep your drives in optimum condition (with PerfectDisk 12.5, for example)).

 

how much of a power consumption difference is there? im going to use it on a laptop and unless it doesnt lower my battery life down by 20 minutes i should be fine

 

great question because i was about to pull the trigger on the Samsung 830.

 

I haven't noticed any difference in battery life between a work provided T420 w/8GB RAM, 6 cell battery, Intel HD3000 graphics and Samsung 830 256 GB drive and one of my own T420 which has the same config, but has a Crucial m4 128GB + Intel 320 mSATA 80GB for OS and programs. If there is a difference then its marginal enough that I haven't noticed.

 

ahhh is it jus a 10 minute battery difference
because then i wouldnt give a *

 

It's probably less than 10 minutes. The 830 takes more power when doing reads/writes but it does it faster than the m4 so it will balance out (i.e. the " race to idle" scenario).

SSDs spend most of the time just idling so power consumption under load doesn't make as much of a difference as you would think. Plus, the 830 comes with some pretty nifty software.

I would just go with the cheapest though, as the differences aren't going to be noticeable under normal conditions either way.

 

yeah the samsung is 20 bucks cheaper in korea so ill be using that!

 

voted for crucial because its dirt cheap as compared to samsung.

Edit: didnt see that you mentioned the 128gb version, well at least crucial is still cheaper >.>

 

Between those two, buy based on price and call it a day. Depending on your location the price difference can go either way.

 

The Samsung 830 Series looks good. I somehow have some trust in Samsung because ThinkPad and VAIO business laptops used lots of Samsung SSDs and they were quite reliable. For the current 830 Series, the downside for laptops is perhaps the high power consumption and heat dissipation. Also the performance recovery looks less than perfect, if the SSD is stressed to equilibrium state. And 830 256GB beat M4 in performance.

And also I believe that makes the Samsung so reliable.

Every part inside the Samsung 830 is made by Samsung (from the NAND chips to the weird triple core controller). So, I believe they have a better control over the product quality and testing.

But Samsung supplies to OEMs. They have passed all stringent testing methods thrown at them. Reliability is what the PC manufacturers look at

 

Samsung 830 vs Crucial M4

I was facing the same dillema till a few days back as I needed to choose a SSD for my Vaio SVS13A to replace the 5400rpm Hitachi Travelstar.
I do a lot of my purchases from Amazon and B&H Photo.
So I looked and analyzed at the customer reviews on amazon.com and amazon.co.uk
I did not find a single customer complaining about dead Samsung 830's or any major BSOD problem in them.
The M4 is another story where there is a high number of people complaining about the M4 dying on them or major BSOD probs. Ok, one may say that normal reviewers don't know what they are talking about in these reviews, but IMHO it is a pretty clear indication.
The 830 is a clear winner in my books, higher power consumption or not.

 

I have a Crucial m4 MSATA 256GB drive as my boot drive in my Envy 17 and a Samsung PM830 as my primary 2.5" HDD. Both have running great so far with everything I've thrown at them.

Peformance numbers as follows:

Crucial m4 MSATA:
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Samsung PM830:
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Price on both of them was about the same from the two places I ordered them from.

 

Wasn't sure where to post this, but Crucial M4 is cheap at Amazon right now. See Crucial and Lexar Storage Devices at Amazon: Up to 76% off SSDs, more - CT256M4SSD2

128 gig: $80
256 gig: $165
512 gig: $350

 

^^got an M4 @ Staples by pricing matching Amazon's $80 sale.


Did research before buying and found these 2, plus the Kingston Hyper 3K, were the brands to beat. But obv, the dirt cheapness of the M4 swayed me.

I would say the Samsumg 830 might be more noob-proof (no offense really, real n00bs get OCZ lol) because you dont have to tinker as much after you install it, with the M4, its reliable, but you want to turn off things like pagefile and hibernation immediately.

And like the guy said above, Samsung 830 comes with nice software to monitor your drive's health, update, and so on. Crucial m4 was pretty much bare bones.

 

Same price, I would get a sammy, but they are hardly ever the same price

Not sure where you heard m4 "need" to turn off things, because SSDs are essentially the same.

 

not M4 necessarily, but all SSDs in general


Disable The Page File And Hibernation : Can You Get More Space Or Speed From Your SSD?



of course most of this is heresay, but if i dont need it, ill take it off to save the extra writes.

 

Page file is shrunk and hibernate is disabled on my G73, it is the other tweaks that i consider heresay. Indexing is a useful feature even with a SSD (i don't think you can search the contents of a file if it is disabled), superfetch is still useful, especially if you got a good ol' HDD in there too. Intel's tuning utility doesn't mess with indexing for example. It wants me to disable superfetch, but i'm not going to do that either.

 

i turned off indexing (on the SSD, its still on the HDD) and superfetch as well.

I have a old 5400RPM laptop installed with my SSD and i havent noticed a difference in speed.


again, mostly heresay

 

Well, indexing has to do with searching files and folders, if it is turned off when you try to search the content of a folder, it will be slower, by how much is variable. As for superfetch, you need a decent amount of RAM for it to work too since what it does is cache frequently used programs to RAM so that they are ready to launch at a moment's notice when you need them. Superfetch effectiveness is therefor proportional to the amount of free RAM you have available for caching. RAM used by superfetch is referred to as Standby in the resource monitor.

 

ive heard it has to do with RAM. pagefile as well.

I have 6GB stock RAM and looking to upgrade to 8GB. or a 4x8GB setup to 12GB total.


I have a iGPU in my computer, and i heard the best way to OC the iGPU is to add, not nessicary "more ram" but "speedier RAM" like 1333mhz or 1600mhz. So when I make the upgrade ill be looking at speed rather than size.

heres a thread on benchmarking a 6620g iGPU with various RAM setups

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...g-benchmarked-various-ram-configurations.html

 

Hibernate and pagefile take space on the SSD according to how much RAM you have. Superfetch doesn't really take space on the SSD, it just writes a little (insignificant amount really) to it.

 

Samsung has the track record, and is also cheaper on newegg at the moment. The only concern with Samsung is the garbage collection, which can be offset by just idling the system. Im doing a RAID-0 array with two 128gb 830's, mostly because I wanted the most stable and reliable drives I could get. Intel was probably a good bet too, but the price was much better on the 830s. I don't really see a reason to skip the 830s right given the price.

 

Can you use the SSD magician software with RAID?

 

I think so? I will find out tonight for sure though.

 

Then you could also check whether you can schedule a TRIM run with the SSDs in RAID. SSD Magician has that ability for non-RAID configurations.

 

I have 4 Crucial M4s of varying sizes, 1 Intel X-25 of 160 GB and an earlier Crucial in 128 GB.

I don't have a Samsung so can't comment, but I keep buying the M4s because they work and have never failed me. Good speed, good price point.