Crucial v4

Crucial released a budget SATA II SSD, the Crucial v4:

AnandTech - Crucial's v4 SSD: Affordable 3Gbps SATA SSD based on Phison's PS3105 Controller

The MSRP for the 256Gb model is $190 so I guess in practice it will be a lot cheaper than that. It uses a Phison PS3105 controller (I have never heard of them). What do you guys think about this new model? Do you think it might be a good buy for SATA II laptops having in mind that older SATA II drives such as Samsung 470 and Intel 320 are obscenely expensive?

 

If this is anything like the Phison fiasco in the mydigitalssd thread - treat this with kid gloves or better yet ignore it till it goes away.

(If 2012 performance - and I'm talking about HDD performance here - is what you're after - this will shock you with how good HDD's can look next to this...).

 

I don't get why Crucial made a SATA II SSD in 2012, the Intel 320 made sense when it was released, but that was then and this is now. given that the M4 256GB can go on sale for that price, i see absolutely no reason to get a v4. As for the 320 being insanely expensive, i got my 160GB new for 170$, not too bad. Still, you see SATA II SSDs going for prices like that of the v4 and they fit in SATA II notebooks.

 

I just as confused...

SATA-II is dying, there no point to it... oh god, why all this non-sense -.-''

 

If it can go for close to $0.50/GB then why not? Who cares if it's SATA II or SATA III most users won't benefit from the faster sequential throughput of SATA III anyhow, but gives them all the other benefits of an SSD. If by making it slower it can be cheaper, then why bother with making it SATA III? I see nothing but good here as long as actual retail pricing is decent.

 

Sure if the price is right, but at this time, it isn't. Considering that you can usually get a 256GB SATA III SSD for ~190-200$ (USD) these days, it doesn't really have its place. Now if the drive was priced at something like $150 or less like you said, sure why not. Like i said in my previous post, at it's current price, the v4 doesn't really have a meaningful place in the market.

 

Keep in mind when computer parts first come out, they're often pretty overpriced. Give it a few weeks, the price will come down, and the v4 will find its place.

 

Possibly, it all depends on how expensive it is for Crucial to make and how much they sell it to resellers. Still it will have to be priced quite low for me to even think about considering it.

 

Pretty sure my mom, dad, sibling, school, work place wont benefit much from SATA3 but sure benefit from SSDs .

and removable storage. (getting a OCZ octane is ... )

 

guys/gals...

$$$ is not the end all and be all - if the product is unfit for sale it doesn't matter if it's offered free it is still stupid to put in an otherwise working system.

The Phison controller is pretty much junk - SATA2/SATA3 is not the issue - this controller is something from 2009 and not fit for use not only in a current, 2012 platform - but not even in a platform from 2006 (when HDD's would wipe the floor with it).

I can't believe a low price would make you try this junk on your system (or your brothers/sisters/aunts/etc. - but maybe your enemy's setup???)?

 

Tiller may want to elaborate how is the Phison controller junk? We all are unfamiliar with it.

 

See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...64gb-very-bad-performance-15.html#post8652605


See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...-64gb-very-bad-performance-4.html#post8323433

MINUTES!!!

See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...-64gb-very-bad-performance-4.html#post8330144

Posted FEB 23, 2012!!!

See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...-64gb-very-bad-performance-5.html#post8334812



See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...-proof-128gb-msata-review-14.html#post8272452


See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...talssd-msata-ssd-64gb-x220-5.html#post8271521


See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...-ssd-64gb-very-bad-performance.hAffordability comes at a price. While sequential performance is okay for a SATA 3Gb/s SSD, random read/write speeds are circa 2009.tml

See:
AnandTech - Crucial's v4 SSD: Affordable 3Gbps SATA SSD based on Phison's PS3105 Controller



What you have to keep in mind is that the benchmarked 'scores' are for new/unused 'perfect' drives - not used, real world 'steady state' numbers that are below what HDD's can offer - this is why these drives are junk.

To get a $50 discount (vs. other SSD's) to have the privilege of still paying 2x what a (probably) faster HDD and much more capacity costs is not a good buy in any way shape or form.

At $0.00 these drives are not a good deal (if you value performance, productivity, reliability and/or bang for the buck...).

I realize that Crucial may turn this around (like Intel did with SF...) - but even so, a few dollars savings is worth the possible headaches?

(Hope I gave enough links... ).

 

Seem like Phison was problematic. But then cheap SSD still often no noise, no shaking and minimal seek/start up time compare to HDD.

 

I guess you not only ignored/didn't read the links - but you ignored the quotes from them as well:

9 MINUTES TO BOOT and LAUNCH WORD.

Also; news update - SSD do make noise and for certain individuals - it is very unpleasant.

Cheap SSD also offer constant RMA's, data loss, system un-availability and frantic hair pulling (not to mention making a ton for delivery services...).

 

I read the Phison had problem, but saying cheap SSd = auto fail is kind of over.

and I probably need a ear check.