DSL upstairs

EDIT: Ok, wait. lol I'm sorry but I think I need some more clarification.


So first:

My modem/WIRED router is downstairs. So what I'd have to do is get a wireless router, and connect it to the modem with an ethernet cable. Then have my laptop connect wirelessly to the router. Is this right so far?

BUT, say I want to play games and I don't want to get latency, how would I connect it so that it is wired if the wireless router I'm using is downstairs transmitting the signal upstairs to my room?

Little confusing, I' know.

^ is from my newer post on the second page. The post below has already been answered.


Up until now my computer has been downstairs with the other computers, and where both the dsl router and phone jack is. Now that I am going to get a laptop I'd like to be able to go upstairs.

This is probably one of those things that has become more confusing, the more I've tried to learn about it. My idiot friends are all telling me different things.

So the question is, how do I get dsl upstairs?

Can I just get another one of those phone jack filter things and get another router and plug that into my laptop? do I even need another router?

And wireless routers, do I have to bounce the signal from multiple routers and then into my room, or do you think the wireless signal can go directly into my room through the floor? WIll the speed be slower because of this?

What would get me the fastest speed and what would be the cheapest?

PS: This is what the alphabet would look like if Q and R were missing.

PPS: my room is pretty much directly on top of the current router. Could I get a checklist of what to buy?

Thanks

 

No you can,nt just add anythey jack filter and get anythey router

You can get wireless router and place it upstair beside you adsl model
and then use wireless to you router no you don,nt have to bounch it wireless router to router

wireless router speed at slow the wired speed but if you only share internet chance are you not useing anyways need speed of wired ethernet if share files between computer you will problay be


wired network = 100 mb

wireless router depend on mode and singal you get

wireless g = 54mb max
wireless b = 11 mb
wireless g with speed boast suposed speed 108 megs

wireless n 128mb = ? i myself have,nt had need use n yet


and shound it make thought you floor chance are yes unless it made out lead or solid cement but chance good it will work fine

I wound suggest wireless G

Wireless n is still draft stander ie not finaly

and chance you new laptop will come with wireless g or n

i wound stick to g but some fourm member will say otherwise am sure but g has been around for long time

 

As mentioned, get a router and set up so you can either go wireless anywhere in your house, or wired if within the room.

All you need is a wireless router.

 

Thank you all very much.

So let me get this straight, I can get a wireless router and not have to connect it up to my laptop because my laptop has wifi? If that's true, then that's awesome. Will that be slower than if it was wired to the laptop?

And you say that wired is 100mp, the how is n and g faster?

The laptop I'm getting comes with: Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 4965 802.11 a/g/n. Is that ok?

And I'm sorry but could you clarify what you mean by "adsl model"? I"m not too advanced sorry?

Does the thing that connects to my main router to go my wireless come in the wireless box? Kinda a silly question I guess.

Thank again.

 

Yes, connecting wirelessly is that easy. Speed is not an issue, because you're on DSL, which slower than any wireless or wired connection (typically around 3mbps). So getting the fanciest 270mbps router would be a waste because your DSL internet is not even that fast...

Wired is almost always faster than wireless. I haven't tried the new N wireless, but my experience with all the other kinds shows that wireless speeds are greatly exaggerated. 108mbps wireless never actually gets close to 108, usually only 60-70. On the other hand wired actually does get pretty close to it's maximum speed. Anyways the only way you'd use this speed would be if you're moving stuff from one computer to another...

A/G/N means it will work with any wireless router made in the last several years.

I think he meant 'adsl modem'. The thing that connects to the phone jack.

There are two kinds of dsl modems btw, one that's just a modem and connects one computer, and another that's a router-modem all-in-one to connect several computers. Sometimes it has wireless built in too. So if the thing you guys have already has antennae sticking out, you don't need to buy anything new. If it doesn't, then you need to buy a wireless router.

 

check your system specs for the software go under networks and settings and i have a suggestion on the router linksy dlink or netgear make sure your wifi card and router share the same frequency

 

What do you mean when you say "DSL, which slower than any wireless or wired connection (typically around 3mbps)."? Because you also say "ut my experience with all the other kinds shows that wireless speeds are greatly exaggerated. 108mbps wireless never actually gets close to 108, usually only 60-70." Could you just clarify what you mean by those two?

And this means I should just get a G router and taht's it right?

Would if be faster if I connected my laptop to the wireless router, or would it be the same if I was free ranged lol. I'm guessing one of the downsides to that would be the security.

And I'm sorry, I made a mistake earlier. I confused router and modem, something I tend to do often.

 

I'm downloading from the internet with my 3mbps DSL. It doesn't matter if I have an ancient 11mbps router or the latest and greatest 270mbps one, my internet downloads will never go over 3mbps.

I'm copying a file from one computer in my house to another in my house. Here, the speed of the router matters. Due to exaggeration a 54mbps router will only do 30-40 in real life, a 108 would only do 60-70, etc.

If all you care about is your internet then just get a G router.

You're not going to notice the difference between wired and wireless when just web browsing/downloading. Wireless does increase latency, but that only matters for online gamers. For security, just turn on the WPA encryption and you're set. Obviously with wireless your stuff is being broadcasted out, but with good encryption it would be too hard to crack.

 

Anyone got a good router recommendation? Seems like all of them get bad reviews, except maybe the 150+ dollar ones, and even the they complain about the price.

I'd like to get something cheap, I was looking at the Linksys Wireless-G Broadband Router WRT54G. But like I said, it's gotten mixed reviews.

Any others?

 

Sorry I can't tell you what to get. However, I can tell you to avoid the Netgear WGR614. I own two of those and they both periodically freeze. From what I understand after having examined discussions about this model on the web, Netgear is not able to ensure the quality of these units so people's experience with them is quite variable. Even the two units I have behaved quite differently. The first I bought worked perfectly for more than a year, during which time I bought the second unit. The second unit never worked right (meaning that it requires periodical reboots) and some months later the first unit started flaking out. They are used at two different locations with two different ISPs so I'm sure the problem is with the units themselves and not something else.

 

oh cr@p, I just bought one...

Well it was on sale for 25 bucks with free shipping on Fry's so, at least it's not a total loss. And even then, it might still work right? Even if it's jsut for a year.

 

i have a question...right now im connected via a router from the downstairs to my computer upstairs. For awhile my internet was working fine but than for some reason about every 2 minutes it would disconnect and i would have to hit repair than it would disable and reconnect work for 2 minutes than disconnect and this has been going on for some time. Its really annoying and i still dont know whats up? anyhelp?

 

It's not a disaster... especially if you paid only $25 for it. I paid twice that amount. Some people are perfectly happy with the unit. However, there's a significant number of people who like me have problems. To me this indicates that Netgear has problems with Quality Assurance in their manufacturing process. Maybe those that come from one plant are perfect and those that come from somewhere else are defective. Anyway, the router is usable even if defective. The two I have freeze periodically (all communications stop) and so require periodical reboots (unplug, wait 10 seconds, replug). The frequency is very variable. It's been about 1.5 months now since I've had to do it but sometimes I have to reboot the router every day. This is an annoyance which makes me wish I had another model (one which does not freeze) but not a disaster by any means.

One thing however. I don't game online. If I did, I think I would have replaced this router already because as you can imagine, communication freezes while playing online are a deal killer.

What you should do is make sure you put your router through its paces right from the start. Use it heavily to see how stable it is. Know what warranty protection you have in case you need to use it. Also make sure you have the latest firmware installed. Although that does not help my router, it should help with other problems. Apart from that, hope that you got a unit from a good manufacturing plant.

 

I take it you are using wireless? Can you tell us what link quality is reported by your computer?

 

Ok, thanks. I actually do play games, not that much but considerably I guess.

The reason I just went out and bought this one, apart from the sale, is that every single router I have looked at has gotten no higher than a 6.5 from USER ratings. As on people who use it and their experiences with them daily. It seems like even the $150+ and the ones that get a 9/10 from expert reviews get no higher than a 6 from user reviews. They all get freezes and lost connections. So I'm thinking maybe it's wireless router technology that's the problem.

 

Ok, wait. lol I'm sorry but I think I need some more clarification.


So first:

My modem/WIRED router is downstairs. So what I'd have to do is get a wireless router, and connect it to the modem with an ethernet cable. Then have my laptop connect wirelessly to the router. Is this right so far?

BUT, say I want to play games and I don't want to get latency, how would I connect it so that it is wired if the wireless router I'm using is downstairs transmitting the signal upstairs to my room?

Little confusing, I' know.

 

bump

Sorry for being so shameless

 

Most wireless *routers* have 4+ extra ethernet ports on them just like a wired router. So you'd go downstairs with your laptop... or run a cable upstairs.

 

Are you sure wireless would be a problem with games. It seems to me that the bottleneck regarding latency, bandwidth, etc. would not be the wireless but your ISP.

 

I'm just going on what other people have said about wireless and gamign on this thread. So is there not latency when going wireless?

And would it be advisable to get two wireless routers, on downstairs one upstairs so I can have my laptop wired to it?

 

Actually, I don't know because I don't game online. I just find that what normally limits me is my ISP, not the wireless but then again as I said, I don't game online.

I can't see how you can have two routers connected to the same modem. (Note: I'm not saying that Ethernet and TCP/IP cannot handle such a setup but I think it is beyond the capabilities of commonly used modems and routers.) The setup you need if you want wired is:

ISP == Modem ==(ethernet cable)== Router ==(ethernet cable)== Computer

Why can't you move your modem closer to the place you'll be gaming??

 

My laptop is going to be upstairs, but I've got two other computers connected to teh internet downstairs, so our modem/wired router is downstairs.

So it's not possible link up 2 wireless routers as kinda meet up points or something?

If it's not, my set up looks something like this:


Laptop
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__________________________UPSTAIRS___________\___________



ISP == Modem/wired router(w/ 2 computers) == Ethernet cable == wireless router

I guess what I want is to somehow wire the laptop to a router. I"m going to be connecting the laptop to an external monitor so whenever I'm home it's going to stay upstairs and not move.


GAH, it looked fine as I was typing it. Format must have changed or something

 

Hehe, but the question is why the wireless router. You could run a cable from your wired router to the laptop, no?

 

lol wouldn't that mean he'd have to make a hole through his roof? Unless the modem-router is close to the stairs.

 

Hmm.... I thought the goal is to have the laptop on the 2nd floor be wired. For that to happen it has to be wired all the way to the ISP. No wireless at any point.