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    Desktop CPU v Mobile CPU

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by highfly, Feb 27, 2012.

  1. highfly

    highfly Notebook Consultant

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    Does anyone know how much of a difference there is between the performance of a desktop cpu and a Laptop cpu as looking at the passmarks website there are cpus like the i7 2670 qm that are more powerfull than a i5 2500k and the i2960xm is very closes to the i7 2600k how is this possible or am i missing something.
     
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    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Different features etc. such as the 15-2500k does not have hyperthreading available. TurboBoost of the 2960 is 3.7 and is 3.8 on the 2600k. Alot of these things will affect synthetics such as passmark............
     
  3. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    There is and there will always be a difference in performance between desktop and laptop CPUs. Desktop CPUs will always be faster as they clock higher than laptop CPUs. They clock higher because cooling solutions are never a problem on a desktop, while on a laptop it is (limited space = limited cooling potential = lower CPU speed).
     
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    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Passmark CPU Benchmark:

    2670QM: 6803
    2600K: 9102
    2960XM: 8544
     
  6. TheBluePill

    TheBluePill Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Every Manufacturer seems to be offering a $150 upgrade from the Intel Core i7-2760QM 2.4/3.5ghz to the Intel Core i7 2670QM 2.2/3.1ghz..

    Do y'all think thats worth the change?
     
  7. baii

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    No, unless you crunch number/video edit all day.(where you better off get a desktop)
     
  8. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    I think I've got 11700ish Passmark on my CPU.. Passmark scores are an average, right?
    Notebookcheck scores are always at stock.

    You have to remember that some people (can only) run it at stock multis and some overclock...

    The mobile XMs are pretty insane though.. I can get 30K Vantage CPU on it, the only thing that stops me getting higher is cooling. :(
     
  9. highfly

    highfly Notebook Consultant

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    thats what i'm saying the i7 2960xm nearly performs as well as an i7 2600k at nearly half the wattage i no the i7 2960xm cost like £850 to the i7 2600ks £250 but does this mean that intell are holding back with there desktop cpus and could do better but chose not to because most people dont wont that sort of power.

    in fact if you look at the i7 2960xm it looks to be an i7 2600k with lower wattage and a lower clock speed when all 4 cores are being used
     
  10. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Well, my 2920XM pulls around 85+ watts during full load @4.5Ghz... I've seen people go to 100+ watts for 5.0Ghz... all the way up to 130 watts in a laptop, lol.

    It's just rated 55w for the stock clocks.
     
  11. baii

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    How do you draw up the conclusion i7 2960xm nearly performs as well as an i7 2600k?
     
  12. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Core i5 2500K and Core i7 2600K review

    2920XM gets 29k @ 4.4Ghz, 30K at 4.5Ghz

    The M18x users w/ 2920/2960XMs have pushed for 32-33k on Vantage. Just shows that clock for clock desktop and mobile 2nd gen CPUs are more or less the same.

    However, it all boils down to:

     
  13. highfly

    highfly Notebook Consultant

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    notebookcheck.net has benchmarks for both processors at stock and they get very similar results
    ........................ i7 2600k v i7 2960xm
    ciniebench r11.5.......... 6.8 v 6.3
    super pie 1m............... 10.2 v 10.2
    super pie 32m ............ 559.2 v 568.2

    also both have 1m+8m cache both have 4/8 core/threads i7 2600k is 3.4gh-3.8 the i7 2960xm has 2.7 ghz-3.7ghz
     
  14. Deks

    Deks Notebook Prophet

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    The mobile SB is essentially a downclocked desktop version, with the former having such a similar score due to turbo-boosting to higher levels).

    It would be easier for Intel to simply make 1 cpu for both desktops and laptops.
    The main limitation being that in laptops, OC-ing would be limited because of potential overheating and stock speeds would be lower.

    But we know it's far more profitable to make 10 separate products and charge different premium price tags for them.
    :D
     
  15. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    can't blame them for holding back as they don't have any competition at the moment.
     
  16. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    This.

    They really don't. AMD cannot compete with current SNB, much less IVB, in a desktop or notebook. Intel could probably release a new CPU tomorrow that would put SNB and IVB to shame, but since there's no high-end competition... why do it? Until AMD pushes back, not much will change...
     
  17. Devenox

    Devenox Notebook Evangelist

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    Today there is not a big gap anymore between mobile and desktop CPU's.
    A few %, unless you want the max performance (including overclocking) you should go for a desktop CPU.
    But at stock speeds,there's not that much difference (thanks to turbo boost)
    (GPU is another story...)
     
  18. Qing Dao

    Qing Dao Notebook Deity

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    Well, cost is a big factor too.
     
  19. funky monk

    funky monk Notebook Deity

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    It's not as if intel are holding back as such, just that the mobile chips are the more efficient of the bunch. Desktop chips don't have the same power constraints so it doesn't make sense for them to charge you for something you don't need.

    I'm not denying that they have un-released tech (i.e. the gigaflops research chip), but the power difference between laptop and desktop parts only really comes down to application and the binning process.

    EDIT: meant to say terraflops research chip :p
     
  20. Meaker@Sager

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    2670qm is fine for gaming unless you have an xfire or sli 6990m/580m at which point you may want a little more.