Do you know any SSHD 1TB 7mm?

My researches online didn't bring many results. I found the mention of 2 such models, a Toshiba (MQ01ADFH) and a WD black (wd10s13x) , but I can't find them sold them anywhere, it looks like they were presented at some fairs and maybe never hit the market? I also found a quite cheap "White Label" (Chinese No brand?) available in the Us, but I'm in Europe, and I'm not sure if I would trust it anyway.
Any other options? SSD are still too expensive for me, and I don't have an extra msata slot for the cache.
Thank you!

 

@phidias81 you can definitely get White Label on eBay, just contact sellers and persuade them if they do not offer shipping to your country.

 

YEah, but with import taxes and shipment it would end up being quite expensive if I don't find a local source.
In the meanwhile I found this other code
WD10S21X
WD10S12X

 

In the 'any other options' category;

Ignore anything you've read about SSHD's (marketing bs).

Buy a 2TB HDD for roughly the same price.

Short stroke it to the capacity you want. Enjoy.

Good luck.

 

However, can you point to a 7mm 2TB HDD?

That's the form factor that the OP wants.

John

 

Do a bit of research on those WD drives. I think they require software that only runs on Windows to use the hidden solid state portion of the drive. It won't cache data via the drive's firmware like Seagate SSHDs.

 

my xps 15 has a 1 tb 7mm hgst hdd

its for sale i actually already bought the ssd, except it came dead on arrival and i had to mail it to get it replaced


the hgst hdd what is it worth?

hts541010a7e630

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...G0XpYRMogybjqpRjWa-sUaAuLy8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds


this is the one in my machine

Im removing it soon and putting it in an external. so the slimness of it matters zero to me. I wish i could trade it and cash for a 2 tb one. or anything actually i dont have a ton of use for it its going to an external case

 

@phidias81 everyone offering you advice here use SSDs for their main storage, they do not even remember what pain it is to boot from HDDs they recommend you instead of SSHD. The idea of using SSHD for boot drive is not bad in a single-drive machine, however... 256GB SSD will cost you $75 with free worldwide shipping, bringing massive improvement in speed and noticeable in battery life.

 

It's a sad commentary on price drops and availability to implement what is a good idea, just no longer a viable alternative.

When SSD costs came down enough to be able to include a large enough amount of SSD as a front end for HDD's, that same SSD price drop made 100% SSD's affordable enough to negate the desire for an SSHD.

The larger the HDD, the less likely your READ's will be repetitive enough for an SSD cache front end to help enough to make it worthwhile.

Booting maybe faster, but even that isn't as fast as pure SSD because the first load of every byte at boot time needs to come from the HDD side at some point - the SSD side only helps if that byte is requested again at boot time. That's why turning off Fast Startup, prefetch, and superfetch is important for SSHD's as well as SSD's.

Better to get pure SSD storage only in laptops these days. Put the HDD in a USB 3.0/3.1 external enclosure - RAID'ed if at all possible for speed.

 

Keep the HDD out of the laptop, it's too slow. I tried a 2TB drive in my GT80 SLI-263, and it was just too damn slow.

Save up for a 2TB SSD, or get a 1TB and an external 4TB RAID0 USB 3.0 to offload image backups, ISO's, downloads, etc.

Many have gotten around the size limit by pulling the innards out of the SSD case, and running bare - it's still a question of how thick the board+chips are, but 2mm is about the size of the 2 sides of the case.

M.2 SSD drives are all naked

Just make sure you don't short out the bottom against metal in the mounting - use a strip of tape / plastic to insulate.

Judicious use of a Dremel tool can open up space too

When it comes down to it an SSHD is really just an HDD most of the time. If you are using it for backups and long term storage mostly, then the SSD front-end has no real advantage.

Everyone I have come across, including myself, that has run an SSHD eventually realize it wasn't money well spent

 

Can't do that to an HDD.

 

Thank you for the answers. I got a couple of more codes to look for.
I already have a 256GB SSD, but it's really too small for me and the 1TB not affordable.
I also already have an external 2tb drive, but I'm often travelling for many months in a raw, and I need a second drive to store my photos.
No internet backup is not an option, since in some poorer countries it would take ages to upload 1GB of data, let alone hundreds.
So given my economical budget and size requirement the SSHD would be the best option.

 

@phidias81 is modding your 2.5" bay an option, then? If you can add some clearance for 9.5mm drives to fit, Seagate Laptop SSHD is a good drive, available virtually everywhere.

 

Quite so. An x mm limitation is just the manufacturer's. A little plastic stripping or even a gentle push might nudge it in place. Have jammed 12.5mm drives in, supposedly, 9mm bays and 80mm M.2 where only a 60mm ought to fit. No problems, just left out the caddies, tape and/or screws and cut off redundant plastic flimsy thingies, whichever happened to be necessary. Warranty's usually out of the picture then, of course.

 

See:
http://www.kitguru.net/components/h...duces-unique-2tb-2-5-inch7mm-hard-disk-drive/

To the OP; I really think you're wasting your time and $$$ looking for an SSHD - especially given that you have an SSD already (or is that what it will replace?).

For a storage role, an HDD vs. an SSHD performance delta is zero. The cost is not though.

Good luck.

 

@tilleroftheearth OP intends to use SSHD for both OS and storage, limited by single 2.5" bay in his notebook as the only storage option. In such circumstances difference between SSHD and HDD will be dramatic, and higher platter density won't by any means compensate the lack of SSD buffer.

 

See post#4.

Partitioning a 2TB HDD to ~200GB for C:\Drive and ~300GB for the fastest storage needed (let's say game installs) with the remainder on a third partition as needed (can be expanded as necessary) would negate any performance improvements an SSHD w/1TB capacity and 5400RPM spindle speed would provide.

An 8GB nand cache is just marketing bs to get you to open your wallet. Anand found years ago that even with an 256GB SSD used as a cache the cost/performance ratio was not worth it (and an SSD of the same capacity was still faster...).

Buy a 2TB HDD and partition it properly. Or, save for a real SSD.

SSHD were dead after Seagate stopped making them with 7200RPM speeds.

 

So what kind of laptop is this for anyway?

 

I agree with Tilleroftheearth. I think you should just get an SSD. I'll explain why later.

For your main drive:

• 256GB SSD that you already own
• 512GB SSD - $150 USD, the same price as the Western Digital SSHDs you listed.
• 1TB SSD - $300 USD, if you can manage to find a way to afford it

If you need more storage space than that, get a USB 3.0 external drive enclosure to offload your photos.

The reason I recommend using an SSD is because:

• (Obvious) speed benefits
• You're using the storage capacity to offload digital photos when travelling. You don't actually NEED 1TB of storage capacity on an internal drive in your laptop.
• Buying a SSHD is a dead-end purchase. When you want to upgrade that SSHD, then it's pretty worthless at that point. It won't be worth much if you try and sell it, and you won't want to put it into another system, because it's so slow.

However, if you were to buy a 512GB or 1TB SSD, those will easily hold value in the future. If you decide you want to replace a 512GB / 1TB SSD, then you can easily find another system that would benefit from a high-capacity SSD; or you could find a way to sell that SSD.

Basically, if you buy a SSHD, it becomes worthless once you decide you don't want to use it anymore. If you stick with an SSD, then the SSD will retain value far longer.

 

I read somewhere a report of a guy that managed to insert a 9.5 drive, but had to literally cut a hole in the back cover, so that the drive was sticking out. So I guess there is not enough space

Asus UX32VD

 

Ouch, I wouldn't want a drive sticking out for obvious reasons. Unfortunately if you can't afford an SSD at that size (I can't either ), looks like you'll be limited to 5400rpm drives for 7mm height and 1GB. That WD you posted is an SSHD alternative, but the Nand portion only works with software. I have never used an SSHD but the only advantage to one that I can see is faster boot times and application load times. They're all being made with 5400rpm spindles nowadays so file transfer performance should be on par with most traditional 5400rpm drives. I think you'll just be better off getting a good reliable mechanical drive and be done with it.

EDIT: I see that laptop has some kind of SSD cache system. How is that implemented? Is there some kind of Nand and controller on the motherboard? Reviews on it don't seem very good though.