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    Does Penryn and Montenva Use The Same CPU Sockets?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Tolkannn, Jul 10, 2008.

  1. Tolkannn

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    Its in the quiestoino
     
    Tolkannn, Jul 10, 2008
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  2. filza

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    probably not the montivena is much smaller in size so it wont fit! but u dont need it the m15x is good enough!
     
    filza, Jul 10, 2008
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    Penryn - name of CPU
    Montevina - name of Platform
    both santa rosa and montevina use penryn CPU
     
    Nirvana, Jul 10, 2008
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    Santa Rosa platform ---> 4th gen Centrino: Merom and Penryn CPUs (T5xxx,T7xxx odd numbers, T8xxx and T9xxx odd numbers)
    Montevina platform ---> 5th gen Centrino (Centrino 2), Penryn CPUs (T9xxx even numbers) Probably T8xxx even numbers
    Capella platform ---> 6th gen Centrino
     
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  5. Phil

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    Montevina uses 2nd generation Penryn CPUs P8xxx and P9xxx, as far as I know.

    Santarosa uses first generation Penryn and Merom CPUs.
     
    Phil, Jul 10, 2008
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    Yes the montevina platform uses a Socket P.
     
    flipfire, Jul 10, 2008
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    As flipfire stated, they do use the same socket (Socket P), but whether they processors can be changed between platforms, is unclear.
     
    Zero, Jul 10, 2008
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  8. Phil

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    Is that so?

    As the TPD of SantaRosa is 34 watt and the TPD of Montevina is 29 watt, I would have assumed the are not interchangable.
     
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    TDP is the maximum amount of power the cooling system is required to dissipate.

    Its possible that the first gen penryns will work on the montevina platform
     
    flipfire, Jul 10, 2008
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    What flipfire said applies here. Its possible that rocessors from Montevina can be placed into Santa Rosa notebooks. But, they would need to be compatible with the chipset. It might be that some manufacturers may release BIOS updates, so that such a processor change can take place.
     
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    Montevina processors do work with Santa Rosa, because it is still Penryn, the exact same processors out there now.

    The chipset just runs more efficiently on less power, it does not have to do with the processor.
     
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    Well is the Wiki wrong then? because it says:
    Montevina CPU: a second-generation Intel Core 2 Duo (code-named Penryn) 45nm processor with 1066 MT/s FSB with clock speeds ranging from 2.26 GHz to 3.06 GHz, also featuring SSE4.1 support, which adds 47 new instructions to SSSE3. It is planned to consume no more than 29W, compared to Merom's and first-generation Penryn's 34W TDP. Link.

    They seem to claim that there is a first generation Penryn and a second generation.
     
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    Santa rosa can only support up to 800mhz FSB, and the second gen penryns (P9xxx) will have 1066mhz, either it will downclock or not be compatible at all.

    First Gen (800mhz fsb) : T8100,T8300,T9300,T9500,X9000
    Second Gen (1033 fsb) : P9xxx, P8xxx, TBA
     
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    Yeah Penryn in Penryn, they are getting faster FSB, but it is still a Penryn. It does get a higher FSB, but actual pricing of the new Penryns is identical to the ones currently found in Santa Rosa laptops.
     
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    While the Santa Rosa and Montevina PLATFORMS both use the same Socket P CPU socket, Santa Rosa does not currently support past 800MHz FSB, so unless there is a Santa Rosa refresh (not sure if it only needs a BIOS update or some other hardware), the second generation Penryn PROCESSORS/CPUS (T9Exx, P9Exx, and P8Exx where E is an even number) will NOT be supported. Most likely it will be like the Napa PLATFORM which used the T7Exx series (first generation Meroms w/ same 667MHz FSB) and then Santa Rosa PLATFORM used the T7Oxx (second generation Meroms w/ higher 800MHz FSB).
     
    sgogeta4, Jul 10, 2008
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