Does anybody still use mechanical hard drives?

Overall a higher density platter is going to read/write faster than a lower density one.

That really doesn't count. The Velociraptor may be a physically smaller drive, but it's made for 3.5" drive bays, and has a much higher rotational frequency. (I wonder how they do for heat and noise now?)

 

Finally managed to create a usable image on a rapidly dying pos Toshiba HDD (MK6465GSX, just google it and see how terrible it is) and restored it to a Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000, so now the laptop is usable. So yes I still use a mechanical HDD in my backup laptop.

 

And the caveat is?

 

Umm there is no caveat, was just replying to the original question.

 

you can take a 3TB and a 2 TB + 1 TB on the same generation from same company, and 2TB+1TB will probably be faster by 5-10%. i have done this test with barracuda 3TB 2TB and 1TB, you can do the same with WD caviar black to see if its true. btw barracuda 1TB and 2TB came out earlier, so it isn't exactly the same generation as 3TB, yet they are both faster. care to explain?

also it doesn't take einstein to figure out which is faster but just using benchmark is wrong, cause it takes a whole lot more just to make, design and build HDD. No need to bring up review sites cause a lot of them do it for the money, and free sample. thessdreview is one of those and I won't go into details but, benchmark don't mean much really.

companies are cranking up their hardware for benchmark software left and right with firmware and driver etc, this is exactly the reason they do it because you, and the majority of people likes to look at graph and benchmark. this is one reason I do not buy samsung SSD because they are junk. 830 was alright though.

its still a 2.5", just different z height. server drives are all 2.5" and plus velociraptor runs cool, the heatsink is a selling point for good looks. noise is a problem but people can live with that.

@Qing Dao now as for this above quote with bold part. when people don't understand it, or when they only listen to other people and spread the news, this maybe the result. im in no intention to offend Wolfpup but as you can see, velociraptor runs cool, runs much cooler than my 3TB or 4TB drives, and most 1TB drives as well, theres no need for the heatsink and you don't really need it.

it's true most benchmark indicates what tillerofearth saying is wrong but its also true they don't go super in depth. I can ask you a few questions and you won't be able to answer it, review sites may not bother to answer it. question such as 4k sequential, 4k random, latency between each sequential or each random 4k performance and of course this scales upward to 8k 64k 2MB etc. you won't answer it because you go by review, and they won't answer it because they only care about # of views, money and free sample.

tiller is just seeking the truth, you are opposing to his truth with your knowledge. no one is right or wrong imo but as for the real truth (performance wise), tiller is the one thats correct.

 

It was rhetorical. You should have leaned something from the ordeal.

 

Toshiba is absolute worthless garbage? Most definitely.

 

I know exactly what you are talking about with those 1TB, 2TB, and 3TB drives. But guess what, they have the same platter density. They use the same 1TB platters in those drives. The performance differences you are talking about are not related to platter density. I can't properly explain it, so unlike other people here I won't invent some garbage. The only conclusion from that that we can make is that using less platters in a single drive is better.

 

lol no, theres barracuda, theres barracuda xt and there is also black caviar 4tb that has the same density can improve performance with just firmware change.

barracuda xt has lower density and came out a long time ago and its faster and better suited for enterprise drive why is that?

 

Maybe it's just the particular laptop HDD model (the MK6465GSX), or maybe it could even just be my own drive. But over 2000 reallocated sectors in 2 year is just not acceptable. In any case, just google that model and you'll see I'm not the only one. The reviews on Newegg are particularly damning.

As to the Velocirator in a laptop, as you mentioned power would be one issue. And I remember reading somewhere even if you somehow got it to work, the drive would die of overheating in the confines of a laptop.

 

Then allow me to put it another way -- Economics. Purely and simply Porsche needed to do something to revive its failing nameplate. And that solution was to add an SUV to its product line. And they weren't alone. It was also the SUV that brought Cadillac back from the brink of bankruptcy.

Without these innovations, neither company would be alive today. Taking that into consideration, isn't it ironic that the one time chairman of Cadillac said they would never put the Cadillac emblem on a truck?

My point is, don't expect companies to always respond the way we think they should. Sometimes its product advancement in innovation. other times its purely for financial reasons that companies do the things they do. In fact, its typically the single most compelling reason of all.

 

First you talk about some Seagate Barracuda drive that comes in 1TB, 2TB, and 3TB versions and I gave you your answer, so now you are changing your mind and talking about different hard drive lines from different manufacturers? Instead of listing random drive product lines, tell me what specific drives you are talking about. On top of it all, I still think you aren't sure about different generations of drives nor platter density. How about you either stop trolling and come up with some form of coherent argument, or go sit with "newtonoftheearth" in a self-imposed exile.

 

tl;dr

anyway, I think in argument about whats faster and slower HDD, tiller was correct about the density platter and the speed how it matters to HDD, and I think you were mistaken, thats all.

 

I've been using SSD's since 2010. A laptop doesn't feel "right" when it's using mechanical storage.

 

Did you buy it at Newegg? Their hard drive shipping methods have been notorious for years for resulting in high hard drive failure rates. Just four weeks ago they announced a much-needed revamp of their hard drive packaging, but it's a long-overdue change after years of hit-and-miss packaging. Hard drives are one thing that I always buy from a brick-and-mortar store.

Oh, I can see why it might be a good idea for Porsche the company to make the Cayenne, and why it might be profitable. It's from the consumer's point of view that I don't get it. If I were buying an SUV, why would I want to buy a likely-overpriced Porsche instead of, say, a Toyota Highlander or a Ford Explorer? Maybe the prestige, but if someone I knew said they had a Porsche, and it turned out to be a Porsche SUV, that would be a major disappointment.

Granted, I don't pay much attention to SUVs, so perhaps the Cayenne really is competitive in price to other similar-size SUVs.

 

No the hard drive came in the Toshiba laptop.

 

velociraptor won't overheat lol, but it will not power unless its 12v. when 5v hooked up to it nothing happens, like it has no power.

 

I have both a SSD and HDD in my new laptop. Some of the applications I use can take well over a minute to load from HDD. It's just a few seconds with the SSD and I can afford it. I use the HDD for local backup while at a customer site and then that gets dumped to the NAS when I get back to the office. Most to the time I don't have internet access while away from the office so this works for me.

 

Meh, all this lickity-split is overrated for OS loading and small transfers. But HDD transfers can be painfully slow if we're talking about hundreds of GB.

 

You call THAT painfully slow?!
They are REALLY painfully SLOW when HDDs are enjailed in USB2.0 boxes!!!

 

Nah. The difference is night and day-even when comparing SSD's to SSHD's.